Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Chet Farmer
Look. I like Typo. I'm still trying to use it. But mails like this just tick me off. They provide no help to speak of while insisting there is no problem. Also, proofreading is a good idea. On Jul 15, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Scott Likens wrote: To whomever it may concern, I reckon that

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications

2008-07-16 Thread Rodger Donaldson
Chet Farmer wrote: Now, there's no real difference with Mongrel/Webrick if you run nginx or Apache or lighttpd. It works, it's well documented and takes the most amount of memory (actually all of them really take the same amount of memory, you just don't see the ruby process hanging around

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Scott Likens
Chet, Which portion of the documentation needs to be revised? FastCGI? Mongrel? I suppose someone can whip up some instructions on how to make the config.ru for Passenger if need be. Typo is imo extremely easy to deploy and get up in running in under 5 minutes. If your having a problem

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications

2008-07-16 Thread Scott Likens
On Jul 16, 2008, at 12:14 AM, Rodger Donaldson wrote: Chet Farmer wrote: Now, there's no real difference with Mongrel/Webrick if you run nginx or Apache or lighttpd. It works, it's well documented and takes the most amount of memory (actually all of them really take the same amount of

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications

2008-07-16 Thread Chet Farmer
On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:10 AM, Scott Likens wrote: I'll certainly agree with that. Getting mongrel working with mod_proxy was essentially an exercise in Google and reading blogs. Why is mod_proxy working with mongrel such an exercise? Beats me. Perhaps you should refer to the first

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Chet Farmer
On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:04 AM, Scott Likens wrote: Which portion of the documentation needs to be revised? FastCGI? Mongrel? Honestly, all of it. I know that's a broad answer, but it's the truth. Compare the installation experience of a LAMP stack tool to Typo's and you'll see the huge

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications

2008-07-16 Thread Rodger Donaldson
Chet Farmer wrote: On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:10 AM, Scott Likens wrote: I'll certainly agree with that. Getting mongrel working with mod_proxy was essentially an exercise in Google and reading blogs. Why is mod_proxy working with mongrel such an exercise? Beats me. Perhaps you should refer

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications

2008-07-16 Thread Rodger Donaldson
Scott Likens wrote: On Jul 16, 2008, at 12:14 AM, Rodger Donaldson wrote: Chet Farmer wrote: Now, there's no real difference with Mongrel/Webrick if you run nginx or Apache or lighttpd. It works, it's well documented and takes the most amount of memory (actually all of them really take

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications

2008-07-16 Thread Scott Likens
On Jul 16, 2008, at 12:12 PM, Rodger Donaldson wrote: Why is mod_proxy working with mongrel such an exercise? That's it as a whole, 7 whole lines. Add that to your apache configuration in a Virtualhost area for your blog and startup typo and you should be golden. At which point you wonder

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications

2008-07-16 Thread Scott Likens
On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Chet Farmer wrote: Beats me. Perhaps you should refer to the first portion of my reply to you last night. It's clearly a problem, though. It's also a problem that the purpose of Mongrel isn't made clear; you just have to take on faith that it's something you

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Scott Likens
On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:43 AM, Chet Farmer wrote: On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:04 AM, Scott Likens wrote: Which portion of the documentation needs to be revised? FastCGI? Mongrel? Honestly, all of it. I know that's a broad answer, but it's the truth. Compare the installation experience of a LAMP

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Chet Farmer
On Jul 16, 2008, at 5:38 PM, Scott Likens wrote: Honestly, all of it. I know that's a broad answer, but it's the truth. Compare the installation experience of a LAMP stack tool to Typo's and you'll see the huge gap. In particular, deeper descriptions of why Mongrel needs to be involved,

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread JZ
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Scott Likens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To whomever it may concern, I notice the common thread here. How to deploy typo? There is many ways to deploy typo, the most common is 1) FastCGI. We all know, it sucks. 2) Mongrel/Webrick Nginx with proxy load

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Scott Likens
On Jul 16, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Chet Farmer wrote: We are comparing an Apple to a Pear, LAMP is not the same as LAMR or a Ruby on Rails install. Please stop comparing it, you are doing nothing useful by doing that. Are you really saying you can't compare a Ruby app with a LAMP app? That's

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications

2008-07-16 Thread Scott Likens
On Jul 16, 2008, at 3:36 PM, Chet Farmer wrote: Scott, You persist in answering questions that I'm not asking. At this point, I won't give a damn about Typo deployment again until some time *after* the bug fixes I require are deployed, if then. Your ongoing insistence that Typo/Ruby IS

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Scott Likens
On Jul 16, 2008, at 5:09 PM, JZ wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Scott Likens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To whomever it may concern, I notice the common thread here. How to deploy typo? There is many ways to deploy typo, the most common is 1) FastCGI. We all know, it sucks. It

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Kevin Williams
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Scott Likens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If thin supported Streaming (Not Media, but the Mongrel Extension) it would be something I would have no issue using. I've mentioned that to the author of Thin and we'll see how that goes. Thin depends on the

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Kevin Williams
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Chet Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why on earth would you need to run a second web server? That seems like a really bad idea, frankly, hence my annoyance that the most obvious question (which boils down to WTF?, essentially) isn't addressed. Let's compare

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Chet Farmer
On Jul 16, 2008, at 7:12 PM, Scott Likens wrote: Are you really saying you can't compare a Ruby app with a LAMP app? That's ridiculous. How else can someone decide between Typo and MT and WP and etc? No, you're just wrong. It makes PERFECT sense to compare the experience of setting up