I just approved the MIR in bug 524573. With 0.8, -pptp has become a
first-class citizen plugin upstream, so support should get much better
from their side.
I subscribed ubuntu-release for approving the FFE.
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I hope it's will in 10.04 :) Waiting...
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@Shahar Or : Kindly read comments #38 and #40.
Adding new package is not a papercut task .Such decisions regarding adding new
packages need to be discussed in the desktop mailing list.
Kindly bring up this discussion in the mailing list.
http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Adding new package is not a papercut task
This is not about adding new package to Ubuntu.
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How PPTP VPN connection is supported in other operating systems?
- Windows: Supported from Windows 95
- MacOS: Supported from MacOS X 10.2
- OpenSUSE: Supported in Yast long ago (at least from OpenSuse 10.1),
additionally recently added Networ Manager to the default install, so
there are 2 ways
Will people kindly stop re-opening the papercuts task , without reading
what the project is about!
- the nm-pptp package is not a package in the default install.
Including this pacage by default is not a papercut task.
Papercuts are a design task for identifying and fixing design bugs/flaws
in
Checked Lucid Lynx Alpha 2 Desktop CD. It still not contain network-
manager-pptp package. :(
Any help needed? What people ping required to push things in right way?
:)
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Three years of moaning to include little package which provide base
functionality to distributive and still no movements...
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Size: 148140
Common. Perhaps address the Ubuntu Desktop Team.
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As I figured out, only officially supported packages can be added to the CD.
So, we need to wait for network-manager-pptp complete MIR procedure:
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Is network-manager-pptp package already included in Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid
Lynx Alpha-2 LiveCD?
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On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:03:23PM -, Hans Bakker wrote:
It is very intuitive that when you add a VPN-connection with network-
manager-kde (the vpn tab is there), you can't connect to it. Most people
will not think of installing this plugin as a solution for their
problem.
thats a
It is very intuitive that when you add a VPN-connection with network-
manager-kde (the vpn tab is there), you can't connect to it. Most people
will not think of installing this plugin as a solution for their
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This bug is #40 on the list, not #1
Launchpad design seems to have a major flaw: when duplicate bug being filed,
it's votes not seems to get summed up to original bug. At least, when I created
bug and it become duplicate. I was listed as affected on my bug but was not
listed as affected in bug
Not only WinXP but any Windows version starting from Win95 and also
MacOS.
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Neither of those are true for Ubuntu. This bug is #40 on the list, not
#1, and none of the other bugs in the first 75 are related to network-
manager-pptp.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?orderby=-users_affected_count
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I filed bugs about this crappy PPTP situation THREE YEARS AGO! Because
of importance of this problem. And yet nothing changed... Can I hope to
see PPTP at least in 9.10 Ubuntu and Kubuntu releases finally working?
So it could be finally used by Russian (and other ex-USSR countries)
users, etc.
This bug currently has the highest number of users affected:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-
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I think if there have been any doubts, if or not to include network-
manager-pptp by default, should have vanished.
Thomas
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[pgp] https://keyserver2.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?
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Ivanov1965 pos...@list.ru wrote on
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Installing pptp stack by default may be an overkill, but a network-
manager-pptp.deb package is a must have in the ISO...
Or maybe not. Full PPTP support is only 200k (compressed) and:
1) Manually installing a deb is not as user-friendly as having support just
there when you need it.
2) I
in moscow (more than 13million peoples) 80% ISP uses PPTP/L2TP over
Ethernet, 20% uses PPoE over DSL
the odd thing is that this package is about a VPN ... not about a PPTP
for dialing up a network connection. Are you sure that this package
actually helps? or are you saying you just want
pptp-linux is already included on the Ubuntu CD (as an extra package in
dists/pool). It will be enough for all PPTP/VPN-based ISPs to include
network-manager-pptp package on the CDs as well. Our local LUG actually
distributes Ubuntu CDs remastered in such a way (with an extra nm-pptp
package) - it
Are you sure that this package actually helps?
Yes.
pptp-linux technically allows to establish Internet coinnection but
requires editing config files by hands which is unintuitive and also
requires internet to search the appropriate cofiguration in forums.
network-manager-pptp allows to do
Good day! Lack pptp-linux network-manager-pptp from release to release brings
the problem to me. Virtually all providers of Ukraine for home and corporate
access is provided through a connection vpn pptp.
That is, after the installation of the majority of users in Ukraine have
I've used network-manager-pptp for about a year, but now I use a text
config file I found on the forum of my Internet provider, because it is
boring to enter your password each time after reboot. But using text
configs should not be recommended to non-professional users.
Another problem is that
ok thanks for the explanation. i was not really aware that any provider
needs the VPN plugin to get connected. sorry for that. unfortunately its
too late for karmic to get anything additional on the CD, so Lucid it
will be. Thanks again!
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Ansus, the need to reenter password after each bott is a separate bug
you should file agains this package.
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This bug still in Karmic: the both packages are not included into
intallation CD.
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yep. allmost anyone in russia who install Ubuntu can't turn on internet.
funny situation:
you can't be online be cause you don't have network-manager-pptp
if you want install network-manager-pptp - you must be online.
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As I understand, Ubuntu developers are absolutely inadequate:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/417715/comments/3
Why not include this fucking package on this fucking CD?
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yep. allmost anyone in russia who install Ubuntu can't turn on
internet.
i was not aware that thats the case. why is that so? what percentage of
russian internet users must use pptp to get online?
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oh shi~~
It should be 100 papercuts fixed, but not trivial bug affecting _many_
users since 2007.
Strange policy, yeah.
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Great amount of russian users... I'm from Russian Federation, so believe me.
If you don't want to believe, so you can visit some ISP's sites and
find network configuration manuals.
Most of them give you a choise:
1) Use authorisation utility (it means USE WINDOWS!!!)
2) Use VPN (unfortunately it
In Israel most of the clients of the cable company use pptp/l2tp ,I estimate
its at least 30% of all the Internet users.
so we need pptp too ...
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just for example,
in moscow (more than 13million peoples) 80% ISP uses PPTP/L2TP over Ethernet,
20% uses PPoE over DSL
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I am changing this to high, following guidelines at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
High: A bug which fulfills one of the following criteria:
* Has a severe impact on a small portion of Ubuntu users (estimated)
* Makes a default Ubuntu installation generally unusable for some users
This is namely usability annoyance that average user encounter in the
very first day as he/she cannet connect Internet. And this is quick and
easy to fix.
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@Ansus: If a new package needs to added it is *not* a papercut.
For further info about papercuts criteria , pls read
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut
Don't worry though, This bug has been marked as invalid ONLY in the
papercuts project.
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Status: Confirmed
This package already ADDED to the rtepository. Only one thing is needed
- to add it to the default install.
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Thank you for bringing this bug to our attention. Unfortunately a paper cut
should be a small usability issue that affects many people and is quick and
easy to fix. I'm afraid this bug can't be addressed as part of this project.
A paper cut is a minor usability annoyance that an average user
This bug is perfect for the One Hundred Paper Cuts Project!!!
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It seems it's the distribution's policy not to include the packag.
Otherwise it would be included long ago.
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My School (Austria) requires a PPTP VPN as well.
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Still not included on jaunty dvd a5.
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It seems it has not been included in Intrepid. People still report
problems and use Windows to download this package.
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For example:
http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=39204.0
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Network-Manager-PPTP is now included with Intrepid thank you very much.
However, pptp-linux located on desktop CD is not installed by default.
As a result, no VPN connection can be configured. There is no way to add
VPN connection using Live Session even when pptp-linux is being manually
This is not a fring case, but a case of 80% of internet users in Russia
and Ukraine.
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Winth network-manager-pptp package all worked well to me. If you have
some problems with routes and roaming, consider opening a new bugreport.
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This bug on Ubuntu brainstorm: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/9895/
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+1
How can anyone say Ubuntu is working out-of-box when fundamental feature
as *internet connection* is missing?!
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Please, add this small but show-stopper package to ubuntu CD and DVD.
Maybe only 5% will use it, but it would solve a lot of problems for
them.
By the way, I think CD/DVD must contain support for all protocols used
by ISPs. I'm sure it would take less than a few megabytes.
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Wrong.Actually this point of view is more than just an error.
For example, here in Russia LOTS of Ethernet-based ISPs and they are using VPN
mostly for authentication purposes.
Actually, in my city, ISP Corbina Telecom is some
Hi,
ALL!!! the ISPs in Israel require a PPTP dialer.
The only way to not use a PPTP dialer is to buy a router which does the dialing
for you.
This bug is a critical one in Israel as well.
David.
P.S I have created an Ubuntu brainstorm request for this. Everyone affected,
please vote and be
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- More Russian's ISP provides Internet access through VPN! How can I use
- Internet? nm-vpn-properties doesn't work without network-manager-pptp! I
- can't to download this package, because I need Internet access, but I
- have
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Martin, what configuration? With fixed IP? In roaming mode? Wireless or
wired?
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I have only tried wired and wireless both in roaming mode, and works ok.
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Hi again. Now it works fine, maybe some update fix it... Thanks!
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roaming mode works ok... try using static ip address and with WPA-PSK
TKIP. it doesn't work on my part.
- Original Message
From: Manuel Martín Salvador [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2007 7:53:37 PM
Subject: [Bug 107738] Re: network-manager-pptp isn't
I highly request this as well.
In my country, the only way to NOT use some kind of dialer (PPTP or L2TP) is to
buy a router.
You can't expect people to buy a router just so they can use Linux.
Dave.
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A question to the experts: If I un-install the current version of
network-manager and compile an old version of network-manager under
Gutsy, can I have the old VPN/PPTP functionality back or will it fail on
the dependencies?
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I'm in Gutsy and there is no way to running the VPN connection. It
configures nicely, but the option to connect doesn't appears. I have
tried with roaming and no roaming, with DHCP and static, but neither
works. (I'm sad because it worked perfect in Feisty).
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have set up with 7.04 before upgrading to 7.10 doesn't work now. kinda
disappointing though.
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I live in a totalitarian country and for me being able to use PPTP or
VPN is indispensible. As Microsoft has impressively demonstrated,
security is one of the top issues whe it comes to computer operating
systems and network connectivity, and it would be very hard to
understand if such issues
The way this should get fixed:
- network-manager-pptp installed by default.
- VPN connections available even in case no interface is in roaming mode
Both issues are crucial.
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@Steven Harms: there are no plans for any interim releases except for
LTS releases. As such, there won' t be any other 7.04 releases. If this
package is included in a future version of Ubuntu Live CDs, it would be
Gutsy (7.10) or later.
The LiveCD is built from seeds. To learn more about seeds
In Austria almost every DSL connection is PPTP, so here it is not the
fringe case but the vast majority has PPTP. It therefore is absolutely
required to include this package by default.
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As pointed out by xoco and Andrey, if NetworkManager doesn't manage
your connection (if it described in /etc/network/interfaces), then VPN
plugins will not work.
I wouldn't suggest that this package be included in a default install
until it was much more polished. I am not the original author,
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