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So, the discussion on this bug strayed a little bit. Perhaps more than
a little bit. But, with regards to the original issue of the icon
hiding that is implemented in the current release. If there are no
launchers (or they are hidden) and there is no running applications
indicating anything,
Mark, the reason we had decided on a separate dialog is that where an
application requires an account to be useful, it's quite reasonable for
the application to offer only an account setup interface at launch, and
to exit if you decline. Claws Mail, Emesene, Eva, Sim-IM, Twinkle, and
XChat are
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
Mark, the reason we had decided on a separate dialog is that where an
application requires an account to be useful, it's quite reasonable for
the application to offer only an account setup interface at launch, and
to exit if you decline. Claws Mail, Emesene, Eva,
Scott Kitterman wrote:
And also best that these apps not require configuration prior to gaining
access to the preference (e.g. the Evolution example given earlier).
Requiring users to set up applications in order to not be bothered by them
in the menu is not a usability win.
+1 and
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
* How are users supposed to know, a priori, that in order to remove item A
from program B,
they need to change program A? Mind you, I'm not a fan of the Gnome Main
Menu Editor,
either. I would prefer to see *direct* interaction with the menus.
Someone who
Ted Gould wrote:
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 20:07 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Aha! And this is the nature of the bug as I see it. I do not HAVE a
message of any kind, but I still have the e-mail icon. Please switch to
some other icon when there ARE NO
David Barth wrote:
Ted Gould wrote:
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 20:07 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Aha! And this is the nature of the bug as I see it. I do not HAVE a
message of any kind, but I still have the e-mail icon. Please switch to
some other icon when
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 11:15 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
There is no need for a Preferences for the Messaging Menu, and this
use case does not justify the creation of one.
We have specified a preference dialog for the messaging menu. The
reason is for blacklisting applications.
Originally
On Aug 25, 2009, at 8:44AM , Ted Gould wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 11:15 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
There is no need for a Preferences for the Messaging Menu, and this
use case does not justify the creation of one.
We have specified a preference dialog for the messaging menu. The
On Aug 25, 2009, at 8:44AM , Ted Gould wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 11:15 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
There is no need for a Preferences for the Messaging Menu, and this
use case does not justify the creation of one.
We have specified a preference dialog for the messaging menu. The
To remove the Evolution launcher from the messaging menu, you'd have to
launch Evolution
and set up your email account
Really? You're kidding? That's got to be a joke, right? Comedy
writers are doing UI design? I'll assume that is an oversight to be
corrected. If a user has not
Noel - Thanks for your feedback and for supporting the project. In the
future, I would ask that you avoid the use of irony in your bug
comments, as it can be somewhat difficult for some people to read the
tone correctly, and to extract your feedback.
In any case, I think that you are proposing
Noel, To maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct -
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ .
Bug reports are handled by humans, the majority of whom are volunteers, [though
most of whom have commented here, work for Canonical] so please bear this in
mind ,
Thanks for your feedback and for supporting the project.
You're welcome.
I think that you are proposing that applications that have not been
configured should not appear in the menu.
Presumably the user would express that they are interested in tracking the
status of an application by
Mac, there is nothing in the code of conduct that says that hyperbole
and humor are not acceptable. Or, as Rick said, irony. In this case,
making fun of the idea that to remove a thing you must first configure
the thing. Rick does have a point that parsing humor may be an issue
for the
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Really? You're kidding? That's got to be a joke, right? Comedy
writers are doing UI design?
Ad hominem comments will get your mail filtered, especially when you're
talking about my work ;-)
Yes, you will configure the use of the messaging menu from the
applications
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Look, there are a lot of things that someone might want to configure
about their environment. Rather than assume that you know what each
user wants, a freshly created account could have some icons on the
desktop for personalizing the experience.
For better or worse, we
Ted Gould wrote:
We have specified a preference dialog for the messaging menu. The
reason is for blacklisting applications.
Please unspecify said preference dialog ;-)
Relevant apps installed by the user should put themselves in this menu.
For default apps which are not desired by the
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:55:38 +0100 Mark Shuttleworth m...@canonical.com
wrote:
For default apps which are not desired by the user, the preference to take
them out of the menu will be in the app. Best we pick those defaults well
And also best that these apps not require configuration prior to
I don't get it. How is evolution going to be able to spam the indicator
applet without being configured first? It is not like you'd be receiving
email messages with a broken configuration.
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Ad hominem comments will get your mail filtered, especially when you're
talking about my work ;-)
Actually, it was an attack on the idea (e.g., referring to it as a
joke), so it was unintentional if you took it as ad hominem. :-) But I
won't suggest or submit to argumentum ad verecundiam,
The intent is for all messaging to fit into that menu - launching your
gmail monitor, launching IM clients, and knowing that you have new
messages, all belong there. The envelope icon is widely used as a proxy
for you have a message from a human being, so that will stay the icon
of choice on the
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 07:10 +, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
The intent is for all messaging to fit into that menu - launching your
gmail monitor, launching IM clients, and knowing that you have new
messages, all belong there. The envelope icon is widely used as a proxy
for you have a message
Mark,
The intent is for all messaging to fit into that menu - launching your
gmail monitor, launching IM clients, and knowing that you have new
messages, all belong there.
I don't have a problem with that, although it will be interesting to see
how much traction you get from the various
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Aha! And this is the nature of the bug as I see it. I do not HAVE a
message of any kind, but I still have the e-mail icon. Please switch to
some other icon when there ARE NO MESSAGES, and I'll be satisfied.
I agree, there should be no icon if it serves no use.
In
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 20:07 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Aha! And this is the nature of the bug as I see it. I do not HAVE a
message of any kind, but I still have the e-mail icon. Please switch to
some other icon when there ARE NO MESSAGES, and I'll be
The after the recent wiki updates, it states that the apps will be shown even
when they are not running ,as a launcher.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu#API [this wiki is constantly updated
and the applet is still in heavy development]
I guess, we'll have to wait for feature freeze to
it displays a ~20 pixel wide envelope icon, even with no applications
running at all
Yes, I was just going to report that defect. Is there an existing
report other than this one? If not, why isn't this one marked as
confirmed?
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Unfortunately, from Bug 377795, it appears that this icon is supposed to
be an indicator and menu combined, so it will always be there as a menu,
even if there are no notices to display. But showing an email icon when
there is no email is poor UI design.
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mac_v, it displays a ~20 pixel wide envelope icon, even with no
applications running at all. (Note that this is a karmic bug, but
jaunty's behaviour is what you're describing)
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Nevermind that, I misread your comment.
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i confirm, ubuntu 9.10 alpha 4 - karmic koala AMD64
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** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29997573/Dependencies.txt
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It seems in usability testing is that folks would go there for their
mail even when it wasn't running.
I suggest making the icon a dynamic one , :
-when several im client alone is running show icon of speak bubble
-when im client and email client are running show icon of the mail envelope..
For users who cant remove the indicator applet... it can be removed from
Startup Applications ,
[but even so its not visible when not in use ,so i dont understand the problem
, its just a 1px space when not used]
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Oh, Thanx to Sebastien Bacher , just realized that the startup
applications was not what prevented it from loading,
But rather, I had killed the process indicator applet form the System
monitor before unchecking the Startup application !
Well... this is not an easy process for a new user,
But
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