Re: Jaunty 64-bit and NVIDIA -- Any ideas?

2009-06-10 Thread Davyd McColl
Good day Thanks for your response. Suspecting that there could be a problem with the card itself (rather inconveniently coincidental, since I just bought a new mobo, psu and ram after a power surge (as far as I can ascertain) killed my PSU and I wasn't sure exactly what was dead, and just wanted

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-10 Thread Andrew Sayers
Hi Mark, I think I understand now why you and the list have been butting heads so much. I'd like to present my theory, then explain how you can be more productive in advocating to developers. At a Fortune 500 company, I would expect that advocacy is very political - it's important to create

Status of OCaml packages on Ubuntu Karmic - 2009-06-10

2009-06-10 Thread David MENTRE
Hello, After some rebuilds, the status of OCaml packages in Ubuntu Karmic is in much better shape: http://bentobako.org/ubuntu-ocaml-status/transition_monitor/ocaml_transition_monitor.html Currently, only 3 packages have issues (over 124): * pycaml: a new version (0.82-10) has been uploaded

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-10 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno mar, 09/06/2009 alle 19.43 -0400, Mark Fink ha scritto: to MONO boosters, MONO is a religion: http://nocturn.vsbnet.be/node/142 To UBUNTU boosters, UBUNTU is a religion. I am not surprised by this. V. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-10 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno mar, 09/06/2009 alle 20.02 -0400, Mark Fink ha scritto: Maybe you should go start an I HATE MONO!!! mailing list, Mark, where you can dispense your bile without fear of having anyone point out that you're doing nothing to add light here, only heat. no wonder you got

Re: Whatever happened to...

2009-06-10 Thread Mat Tomaszewski
Evan wrote: In the Intrepid cycle, there was something going on where it would add a last good boot option to grub instead of all the old kernels in order to keep the list cleaner and shorter. It was dropped quite close to release because of some unfixed bugs, and seems to have

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-10 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 17:27 -0400, Matt Price wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 15:21 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Monday 08 June 2009 6:45:20 pm André Pirard wrote: Similarly, the swap partition should be a Linux file. I think this was talked about at UDS as something people wanted to

RE: devel-dicuss: the list itself, and mono

2009-06-10 Thread David Schlesinger
When someone starts emailing people's bosses about them, things have gone a bit too far. That's what I would have thought. I suspect that Paige, at least, doesn't have much sense of the meaning of either code or conduct. Of course, my manager knows better than to take that sort of obvious

RE: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-10 Thread David Schlesinger
Mark Fink continues to scribble: luckily only stupid people who can't think for themselves fawn over MONO...some of the forum moderators are novell employees (or people who drink they're koolaid)... Wasn't it you who was complaining not long ago about personal attacks...? I'll refrain from

RE: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-10 Thread David Schlesinger
it would be better if it was removed from the repos too, but ubuntu would get back some of its respect if it at least removed MONO from the default install like Fedora is doing. A few questions: a) Respect from whom, exactly? You? Paige? b) Why does this matter? Is someone running a contest

RE: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-10 Thread David Schlesinger
no wonder you got reported to your boss, david. you are not very resptful of your users and customers. I'm not sure I'd know where to begin being resptful of someone. I had a resptful sleep last night, though. Neither you nor Paige are my users or my customers. We're all (supposed to be)

RE: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-10 Thread David Schlesinger
Vincenzo Ciancia wrote to MONO boosters, MONO is a religion: http://nocturn.vsbnet.be/node/142 To UBUNTU boosters, UBUNTU is a religion. I am not surprised by this. And to Mono-haters, Mono-hating is a religion. As Mark has been amply demonstrating here. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss

clamav 0.95.1+dfsg-1ubuntu1.2: possible error in clamav-base.config.in

2009-06-10 Thread Romain Dartigues
Good day Ubuntu community, while backporting clamav 0.95.1+dfsg-1ubuntu1.2 to Ubuntu 8.04, i noticed in the script debian/clamav-base.config.in: AddGroups=`groups $User | awk -F ':' '{print $2}' | sed -e s/$User//` It seems that the groups command output is not the same on Debian, RedHat

RE: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-10 Thread David Schlesinger
Vincenzo Ciancia wrote no wonder you got reported to your boss, david. you are not very resptful of your users and customers. You all are going completely crazy. Reporting to bosses?? Do you think it is RIGHT to risk to ruin a career and a life because of a discussion on the web? Yes,

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 31, Issue 42

2009-06-10 Thread Davyd McColl
I'm sorry, but the 12-year-old in me needs to scream this out: PWNED! Mark, come on dude, just say uncle and leave the playground. The adults have work to do here. Well, just for starts, I was instrumental in supporting Stuart Cheshire's work on ZEROCONF while I was his manager at Apple,

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

2009-06-10 Thread Remco
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Christopher Chanchristopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: Knock the doors of the POSIX committee This seems like a good idea. How are we going to do this? I don't know the procedures of IEEE. It may also be a good idea to first have a few Linux companies in the

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-10 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
2009/6/10 Mark Fink mpf...@gmail.com yes it does and the people behind the censorship need to be exposed for what they really are Moderators? As I understand, the Ubuntu forums are for useful, constructive posts that adhere to the Code of Conduct. It would appear to be almost a consensus

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

2009-06-10 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: Besides, I have already made clear in later posts in this thread that I really do not care what is used so long as it is uniform across all operating systems. If Ubuntu wants to do its thing while other

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-10 Thread Tim Zakharov
Mark Fink wrote: it would be better if it was removed from the repos too, but ubuntu would get back some of its respect if it at least removed MONO from the default install like Fedora is doing. I just listened to the FLOSS Weekly podcast from May where they interviewed a Fedora developer and

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-10 Thread Andrew SB
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:58 PM, David Schlesingerdavid.schlesin...@access-company.com wrote: Mark Fink continues to scribble: luckily only stupid people who can't think for themselves fawn over MONO...some of the forum moderators are novell employees (or people who drink they're koolaid)...

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-10 Thread Luke L
How many of these things are actually going to make it into Karmic? A dynamically sized swap file? GRUB 2 residing on its own partition, etc? These things sound good. Also, would a dedicated GRUB2 parition be able to exist on LVM/raid? Just curious. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Scott James

Re: devel-dicuss: the list itself, and mono

2009-06-10 Thread Luke L
That's why you don't use corporate email or real names on the internet. You guys are lucky enough to se me using my primary address, which has my last initial in the header! On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM, David Schlesingerdavid.schlesin...@access-company.com wrote: When someone starts emailing

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-10 Thread Reinhard Tartler
John Moser john.r.mo...@gmail.com writes: GRUB2 on its own partition is silly. Like having a separate /boot. It is required for stuff like root on LVM, a configuration supported by the alternate installer. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-10 Thread Paige Thompson
I hope mono wins On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 09 June 2009 7:43:37 pm Mark Fink wrote: obviously some of the forum moderators are novell employees (or people who drink they're koolaid) who are censoring respectable people like

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-10 Thread John Moser
Felipe Figueiredo wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Felipe Figueiredophils...@gmail.com wrote: To name one problem, people who use LVM can't use GRUB because it doesn't support LVM block devices. Of course this is wrong, silly me. What I meant is that you have to bypass LVM for

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-10 Thread Christopher James Halse Rogers
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 23:35 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: John Moser john.r.mo...@gmail.com writes: GRUB2 on its own partition is silly. Like having a separate /boot. It is required for stuff like root on LVM, a configuration supported by the alternate installer. This is news to my

Re: Jaunty 64-bit and NVIDIA -- Any ideas?

2009-06-10 Thread Dane Mutters
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 08:01 +0200, Davyd McColl wrote: Good day Thanks for your response. Suspecting that there could be a problem with the card itself (rather inconveniently coincidental, since I just bought a new mobo, psu and ram after a power surge (as far as I can ascertain) killed my

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

2009-06-10 Thread Christopher Chan
John McCabe-Dansted wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk mailto:christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: Besides, I have already made clear in later posts in this thread that I really do not care what is used so long as it is

Re: Jaunty 64-bit and NVIDIA -- Any ideas?

2009-06-10 Thread Davyd McColl
Thanks (: Now I just need to get my keys for Doom3, Doom3 ROE and Quake4 to work. Since the reload, the clients claim that the keys are in use. Emailing Activision hasn't yielded anything in about 5 days. Which brings to light some of the reasons I like FOSS software: 1) No stupid serial keys,