Re: Plain text

2010-07-29 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 7/28/2010 9:32 PM, Doug Ewell wrote: Murray Sargent murrays at exchange dot microsoft dot com wrote: It's worth remembering that plain text is a format that was introduced due to the limitations of early computers. Books have always been rendered with at least some degree of rich text. And

Re: High dot/dot above punctuation?

2010-07-29 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:37:28AM -0700, Asmus Freytag wrote: On 7/28/2010 10:09 AM, Murray Sargent wrote: Contextual rendering is getting to be more common thanks to adoption of OpenType features. For example, both MS Publisher 2010 and MS Word 2010 support various contextually dependent

Re: Pashto yeh characters

2010-07-29 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
Persian and Urdu write [g] using a kaf character with a line above U+06AF, while Pashto uses kaf with a ring U+06AB. It really should be that simple. I seem to remember, that Persian used kaf with three dots above (like your Moroccan example) at least in the 19th century. No idea when they

Re: High dot/dot above punctuation?

2010-07-29 Thread Kent Karlsson
Den 2010-07-29 08.47, skrev Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org: I have few fonts where I implemented a 'locl' OpenType feature that maps European to Arabic digits, and contextual substitution feature that replaces the dot with Arabic decimal separator when it comes between two Arabic

Re: Pashto yeh characters

2010-07-29 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Murray Sargent murr...@exchange.microsoft.com wrote: Andreas Prilop commented A native speaker of English does not /automatically/ know better about English grammar, English punctuation than an informed Frenchman. So true, so true. Most native speakers of English

Re: High dot/dot above punctuation?

2010-07-29 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
2010/7/28 Asmus Freytag asm...@ix.netcom.com On 7/28/2010 9:30 AM, André Szabolcs Szelp wrote: You really all say, that general property Sk (DOT ABOVE) rather than Po (FULL STOP, COMMA, MIDDLE DOT) (compared with all other decimal point characters) can not cause any problems ever in certain

Re: High dot/dot above punctuation?

2010-07-29 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:01:37AM +0200, Kent Karlsson wrote: Den 2010-07-29 08.47, skrev Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org: I have few fonts where I implemented a 'locl' OpenType feature that maps European to Arabic digits, and contextual substitution feature that replaces the dot

Re: Indian Rupee Sign (U+20B9) proposal

2010-07-29 Thread Michael Everson
On 29 Jul 2010, at 08:53, Michael Everson wrote: No. We will put it in the Currency Symbols block because the character does not belong to either the Devanagari or the Latin script. Please note that all of the reference glyphs ... in that block use a Times-like font as the basis for the

RE: Indian Rupee Sign (U+20B9) proposal

2010-07-29 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I had thought that the glyphs were not part of the UNICODE or ISO 10646 standards and only serve as a reference. See the Disclaimer in http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.2.0/ch17.pdf. Jony -Original Message- From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On

Re: High dot/dot above punctuation?

2010-07-29 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:15, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: Also, I don't buy in Unicode idea of encoding different sets of decimal digits separately, they are all different graphical presentations of the same thing. Not in a document where the author is discussing the

Character corrections for Kannada

2010-07-29 Thread K.S. Naveen
Sirs, There are certain corrections required for Kannada characters.  Actually correctness varies with the version of the windows OS and the version of MS office!  Now, my questions are:Is this problem concerned with the unicode consortium Can a private party develop an engine that generates

[ISO15924] Typo for Egyptian_Hierog(l)yphs

2010-07-29 Thread Philippe Verdy
Everywhere below, the Unicode property value alias is missing an 'l'. - In HTML table 1: Egyp050 Egyptian hieroglyphshiéroglyphes égyptiens Egyptian _Hierogyphs 2009-06-01 - In HTML table 2: 050 EgypEgyptian hieroglyphshiéroglyphes égyptiens Egyptian _Hierogyphs

Re: Indian Rupee Sign (U+20B9) proposal

2010-07-29 Thread N. Ganesan
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Tulasi tulas...@gmail.com wrote: I do not see any Unicode role on India Rupee symbol :) why? Here is the rupee sign in a Tamil newspaper: http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2010/07/28/20100728c_014101005.jpg N. Ganesan

Digit/letter variants in the same unified script (was: stability policy on numeric type = decimal)

2010-07-29 Thread Philippe Verdy
Martin J. Dürst due...@it.aoyama.ac.jp wrote: On 2010/07/29 13:33, karl williamson wrote: Asmus Freytag wrote: On 7/25/2010 6:05 PM, Martin J. Dürst wrote: Well, there actually is such a script, namely Han. The digits (一、 二、三、四、五、六、七、八、九、〇) are used both as letters and as decimal

Re: Why not just change the glyph of 20A8 RUPEE SIGN?

2010-07-29 Thread Shriramana Sharma
Thanks all for responding. Of course it was my mistake to forget that there are other countries using the Rupee currency. Maybe the new character will be named the INDIAN RUPEE SIGN to underline the fact that this sign is only for India. -- Shriramana Sharma

Re: Digit/letter variants in the same unified script (was: stability policy on numeric type = decimal)

2010-07-29 Thread Mark Davis ☕
Mark *— Il meglio è l’inimico del bene —* On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 05:57, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Martin J. Dürst due...@it.aoyama.ac.jp wrote: On 2010/07/29 13:33, karl williamson wrote: Asmus Freytag wrote: On 7/25/2010 6:05 PM, Martin J. Dürst wrote: Well,

Re: Digit/letter variants in the same unified script (was: stability policy on numeric type = decimal)

2010-07-29 Thread Philippe Verdy
Mark Davis ☕ m...@macchiato.com It is not so strange. Read http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr24/proposed.html#Multiple_Script_Values, and other parts of #24 describing Common. It is exactly because I had read this proposed update for UTS#24 that I used my argument (if not, I would have not

Re: Digit/letter variants in the same unified script (was: stability policy on numeric type = decimal)

2010-07-29 Thread Mark Davis ☕
That just really isn't a script issue; it is more an issue of which language orthographies use which characters, and we have provision for that information in CLDR. Mark *— Il meglio è l’inimico del bene —* On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 09:07, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Mark Davis ☕

RE: Digit/letter variants in the same unified script (was: stability policy on numeric type = decimal)

2010-07-29 Thread CE Whitehead
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:57:17 +0200 Subject: Digit/letter variants in the same unified script (was: stability policy on numeric type = decimal) From: verd...@wanadoo.fr To: due...@it.aoyama.ac.jp; pub...@khwilliamson.com CC: asm...@ix.netcom.com; kent.karlsso...@telia.com;

Re: Digit/letter variants in the same unified script (was: stability policy on numeric type = decimal)

2010-07-29 Thread karl williamson
Mark Davis ☕ wrote: Mark /— Il meglio è l’inimico del bene —/ On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 05:57, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr mailto:verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Martin J. Dürst due...@it.aoyama.ac.jp mailto:due...@it.aoyama.ac.jp wrote: On 2010/07/29 13:33, karl

Re: [ISO15924] Typo for Egyptian_Hierog(l)yphs

2010-07-29 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Philippe Verdy noted: Everywhere below, the Unicode property value alias is missing an 'l'. - In HTML table 1: Egyp 050 Egyptian hieroglyphshiéroglyphes égyptiens Egyptian _Hierogyphs 2009-06-01 etc. These errors in the tables have been corrected by the Registration

Re: Digit/letter variants in the same unified script (was: stability policy on numeric type = decimal)

2010-07-29 Thread karl williamson
Asmus Freytag wrote: Having Nd be limited to characters that a) are used in decimal radix numbers b) are part of a complete, ordered sequence 0..9 would make this property regular enough to serve implementers. You could script the creation of relevant data for your implementation based on that

Re: High dot/dot above punctuation?

2010-07-29 Thread Martin J. Dürst
On 2010/07/29 19:51, Juanma Barranquero wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:15, Khaled Hosnykhaledho...@eglug.org wrote: Also, I don't buy in Unicode idea of encoding different sets of decimal digits separately, they are all different graphical presentations of the same thing. Not in a

Re: High dot/dot above punctuation?

2010-07-29 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 04:52, Martin J. Dürst due...@it.aoyama.ac.jp wrote: It's very clear that we would get nowhere if we wanted to encode all these. The comment I respondend to talked about characters that are already encoded. In simpler words, you cannot use the needs of discussions

Re: Digit/letter variants in the same unified script (was: stability policy on numeric type = decimal)

2010-07-29 Thread Philippe Verdy
karl williamson pub...@khwilliamson.com wrote: This discussion doesn't make sense to me. The original proposal to encode 19DA says that there is one set of digits in New Tai Lue, but there is an extra digit '1' (the one that got put at 19DA), used when the other digit '1' is visually

Re: High dot/dot above punctuation?

2010-07-29 Thread Martin J. Dürst
Hello Joanma, On 2010/07/30 12:05, Juanma Barranquero wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 04:52, Martin J. Dürstdue...@it.aoyama.ac.jp wrote: It's very clear that we would get nowhere if we wanted to encode all these. The comment I respondend to talked about characters that are already encoded.