Re: Origin of Ellipsis

2013-09-14 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com (Sat 14 Sep 2013 12:42:50 PM CEST): On 14 Sep 2013, at 02:30, Stephan Stiller stephan.stil...@gmail.com wrote: This means that this dot will then need to be followed by two spaces when it is used as a sentence-ending period. This

precomposed characters (was: Unicode organization is still anti-Serbian and anti-Macedonian)

2014-02-15 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Richard Wordingham richard.wording...@ntlworld.com (Sat 15 Feb 2014 07:25:51 PM CET): Each precomposed character adds a small processing overhead to an extremely large number of computers, not just to the computers that actually use it. This is a very strong claim. Would be so

Re: Accessing the WG2 document register

2015-06-10 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - William_J_G Overington wjgo_10...@btinternet.com (Wed 10 Jun 2015 10:25:19 AM CEST): Remind me why Unicode is still taking ISO to the dance? Sometimes going stag has its benefits... As I understand it, Unicode Inc. is a recognised guest of ISO in participating in ISO

ISO (was Re: Accessing the WG2 document register)

2015-06-15 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Marcel Schneider charupd...@orange.fr (Mon 15 Jun 2015 10:29:41 AM CEST): What are we going to do? What are you going to do? I repeat, I'm shocked, and I hate ISO again. Please remember that your government supports ISO through your national standard body. So contact AFNOR

Re: the usage of LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH STROKE

2015-05-31 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Gerrit Ansmann gansm...@uni-bonn.de (Sun 31 May 2015 05:01:36 PM CEST): On Sun, 31 May 2015 16:32:36 +0200, Janusz S. Bień jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl wrote: I'm curious what was the motivation for adding the character to Unicode. According to the Code Chart for Latin Extended B

Re: the usage of LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH STROKE

2015-05-31 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Frédéric Grosshans frederic.grossh...@gmail.com (Sun 31 May 2015 06:20:31 PM CEST): Le 31/05/2015 17:03, Janusz S. Bien a écrit : Quote/Cytat - Andrew West andrewcw...@gmail.com (Sun 31 May 2015 04:56:32 PM CEST): On 31 May 2015 at 15:32, Janusz S. Bień jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl

Re: the usage of LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH STROKE

2015-05-31 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Andrew West andrewcw...@gmail.com (Sun 31 May 2015 04:56:32 PM CEST): On 31 May 2015 at 15:32, Janusz S. Bień jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl wrote: I'm curious what was the motivation for adding the character to Unicode. I understand the proposal is somewhere in the archives, perhaps it

Re: Input methods at the age of Unicode

2015-07-16 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Richard Wordingham richard.wording...@ntlworld.com (Fri 17 Jul 2015 12:59:24 AM CEST): On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 19:33:34 +0300 Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org wrote: One needs a good UTF-8 text editor as well. Emacs is one possibility, of course. If you're prepared to cut and

Re: Input methods at the age of Unicode

2015-07-18 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Marcel Schneider charupd...@orange.fr (Sat 18 Jul 2015 04:33:23 PM CEST): On 16 Jul 2015, at 23:59:24 +0100, Eli Zaretskii wrote: wrote: FWIW, I do that a lot, because the number of convenient input methods in Emacs far outnumbers what I have on MS-Windows. For example, if I

Re: Acquiring DIS 10646

2015-10-03 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Doug Ewell (Sat 03 Oct 2015 08:00:12 PM CEST): Sean Leonard wrote: What I understand is that Draft 1 got shot down because it was at variance with the nascent Unicode effort; If I remember correctly, Draft 1 looked a lot like an updated and expanded

Re: Concise term for non-ASCII Unicode characters

2015-09-21 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Sean Leonard (Mon 21 Sep 2015 10:51:42 PM CEST): Related question as I am researching this: How can I acquire (cheaply or free) the latest and most official copy of US-ASCII, namely, the version that Unicode references? [...] I've never seen the

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2015-12-30 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Andre Schappo (śro, 30 gru 2015, 17:16:09): Does anyone on this list teach Unicode at an Educational Establishment, School, or College or University? In a sense:

Re: Character folding in text editors

2016-02-20 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Elias Mårtenson (Sat 20 Feb 2016 11:23:13 AM CET): Hello Unicode, I have been involved in a rather long discussion on the Emacs-devel mailing list[1] concerning the right way to do character folding and we've reached a point where input from Unicode experts

Re: Character folding in text editors

2016-02-20 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Philippe Verdy (Sat 20 Feb 2016 06:27:41 PM CET): Unless we have case folding tailored by language, you cannot do that based on the Unicode database alone. However CLDR provides tailored data about collation. From my point of view, it is just a matter or

RE: annotations

2016-03-14 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Doug Ewell (pon, 14 mar 2016, 19:22:14): Ken Whistler wrote: The trick is this: the status of annotational data in NamesList.txt is different than that of normative data like the code points, names, formal name aliases, decomposition mappings, and standardized

Re: NamesList.txt as data source

2016-03-30 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Andrew West (Tue 29 Mar 2016 06:15:15 PM CEST): On 29 March 2016 at 16:19, Janusz S. Bień wrote: > All documents submitted to WG2 and to L2 by individuals are copyright > of the author(s) of the document. Documents do not need to

Re: Joined "ti" coded as "Ɵ" in PDF

2016-03-20 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Andrew Cunningham (Sun 20 Mar 2016 12:06:29 AM CET): Hi Don, Latin is fine if you keep to simple well made fonts and avoid using more sophisticated typographic features available in some fonts. Dumb it down typographically and it works fine. PDF,

Re: "textels"

2016-09-18 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Christoph Päper (pią, 16 wrz 2016, 23:51:38): Janusz S. Bień : 1. Graphemes, if I understand correctly, are language dependent, … That’s true in linguistic terminology – well, at least within the more popular schools of

Re: "textels"

2016-09-16 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Eric Muller <eric.mul...@efele.net> (pią, 16 wrz 2016, 17:47:27): On 9/16/2016 8:30 AM, Janusz S. Bien wrote: Quote/Cytat - Eric Muller <eric.mul...@efele.net> (pią, 16 wrz 2016, 17:03:54): On 9/16/2016 6:52 AM, Janusz S. Bień wrote: (when working on a corpus o

Re: "textels"

2016-09-16 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Eric Muller (pią, 16 wrz 2016, 17:03:54): On 9/16/2016 6:52 AM, Janusz S. Bień wrote: (when working on a corpus of historical Polish we noticed some cases where standard Unicode equivalence was not convenient). I'm very interested to know more about

Re: a character for an unknown character

2016-12-21 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Michael Everson (Wed 21 Dec 2016 05:25:30 PM CET): I still believe that we need INVISIBLE LETTER http://unicode.org/review/pr-41-invisible.pdf I think that for the display of combining characters without a base character that the recommended NBSP

Re: Invisible letter (was Re: a character for an unknown character)

2016-12-21 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - David Corbett (Wed 21 Dec 2016 05:56:27 PM CET): Couldn’t you use U+1D52 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL O? In our corpus COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER O sometimes occurs in its combining function, it seemed more elegant to use a uniform encoding. But you

Re: New tool unidump

2017-03-17 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Manuel Strehl (Fri 17 Mar 2017 09:44:15 PM CET): Hi, for my work on codepoints.net and Emojipedia I found myself repeatedly in a place, where I needed some tool like hexdump to inspect the content of a string. However, instead of raw bytes I am more

Re: "A Programmer's Introduction to Unicode"

2017-03-13 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - William_J_G Overington (Mon 13 Mar 2017 12:24:13 PM CET): Prof. Janusz S. Bień wrote: Just yet another reason for introducing the notion of textel? I opine that it would be a good idea to introduce several new words, of which textel would be

Re: "A Programmer's Introduction to Unicode"

2017-03-13 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Richard Wordingham <richard.wording...@ntlworld.com> (Sun 12 Mar 2017 09:10:22 PM CET): On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 20:02:28 +0100 "Janusz S. Bien" <jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl> wrote: If the basic notion has to be referred in a cumbersome way as "extended grapheme

Re: "A Programmer's Introduction to Unicode"

2017-03-13 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Asmus Freytag (Mon 13 Mar 2017 06:00:08 PM CET): [...] This (or similar) scenarios indicate the impossibility to come to a single, universal definition of a "textel" -- the main reason why this term is of lower utility than "pixel". I agree that it is

Re: "A Programmer's Introduction to Unicode"

2017-03-12 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Manish Goregaokar (Sun 12 Mar 2017 07:43:22 PM CET): This is just another confirmation that the present Unicode terminology is confusing. I find this to be a symptom of our pedagogy around "characters" in programming; most folks get taught that characters

Re: "A Programmer's Introduction to Unicode"

2017-03-13 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - J Decker (Mon 13 Mar 2017 06:55:18 PM CET): texel looks to be defined as a graphic element already. TEXture ELement. I'm aware of it, but homonymy/polysemy is something we have to live with. I think there is no risk of confusing texture elements with text

Re: Comparing Raw Values of the Age Property

2017-05-23 Thread Janusz S. Bien via Unicode
Quote/Cytat - Manuel Strehl via Unicode (Tue 23 May 2017 11:33:24 AM CEST): The rising standard in the world of web development (and others) is called »Semantic Versioning« [1], that many projects adhere to or sometimes must actively explain, why they don't. The