Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-20 Thread Clint Savage
Gary On 8/19/07, Gary Thornock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Clint Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just don't use Google for domains! I'm wondering whether you mean that Google for domains would be a bad fit for this list, or whether you're recommending not using Google for domains at all.

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-20 Thread Lamont Peterson
On Sunday 19 August 2007 09:42pm, Wade Preston Shearer wrote: All, I am toying with the idea of dropping Mailman for Google Groups and would like some feedback from the group. I wouldn't do it. A couple of other lists I've been on have switched back away from Google Groups because of the

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-20 Thread Mike Moore
The Ruby group (URUG) moved from mailman to Google Groups and it was a mostly smooth transition. I know of other lists that use Google Groups as a front-end to ease the load on their list app instance. You can subscribe and unsubscribe without ever having to create a Google account if you wish,

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-20 Thread Orson Jones
GoogleGroups requires cookies to post and it's my opinion anything that writes to your hard disk like cookies are evil - quite the opposite of open source. Actually Firefox writes to your hard disk, not cookies, so Firefox must be evil and anti-opensource. Well, most sites that require you

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-20 Thread Gary Thornock
--- Clint Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/19/07, Gary Thornock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Clint Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just don't use Google for domains! I'm wondering whether you mean that Google for domains would be a bad fit for this list, or whether you're recommending

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-20 Thread Orson Jones
Google Groups would be a workable solution for this list that most of us could live with. I tend to like mailman better, partly because of the ability to customize headers and partly just because it's what I'm used to using, but the differences aren't important enough to me that I'd object

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-20 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
I'd suggest those interested/disinterested sign up for the Google groups list and run a bit of discussion on it to see better how it works. IE.: find out if we can get our filters, nesting, etc. to work with Google groups and then make a decision whether it works well enough for us.

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-20 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 09:27 -0600, Wade Preston Shearer wrote: Yes, they handle things fairly nicely, but you lose a lot of control over things like headers (there wasn't anything a sorting rule could really be built on and sorting by subject isn't a good idea, but please folks, don't

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-20 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 11:48 -0600, Lonnie Olson wrote: Does Google Groups use standard mailing list headers? I am specifically interested in the List-* headers. I use some of them for my personal filtering. nevermind, I joined and got a message. The answer is yes. The headers are only very

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-20 Thread Clint Savage
On 8/20/07, Lamont Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 19 August 2007 09:42pm, Wade Preston Shearer wrote: All, I am toying with the idea of dropping Mailman for Google Groups and would like some feedback from the group. I wouldn't do it. A couple of other lists I've been on

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-20 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
The Ruby group (URUG) moved from mailman to Google Groups and it was a mostly smooth transition. I know of other lists that use Google Groups as a front-end to ease the load on their list app instance. Did they move their archives over? Does anyone know of any group that was using

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-20 Thread jtaber
Gary Thornock wrote: --- jtaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GoogleGroups requires cookies to post and it's my opinion anything that writes to your hard disk like cookies are evil - quite the opposite of open source. Also, unless there's a way to get msgs sent directly to your email, it also

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-19 Thread John David Anderson
On Aug 19, 2007, at 9:42 PM, Wade Preston Shearer wrote: snip What do you think? I'm all for anything that makes a volunteer job easier and cheaper. I use Google groups for a few other lists, and I like it just fine. $google_groups++; -- John

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-19 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
I'm all for anything that makes a volunteer job easier and cheaper. I use Google groups for a few other lists, and I like it just fine. I have a question for you since you are an active Google Groups user: On the manage my memberships screen [1], where you specify per-list nickname, email,

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-19 Thread Clint Savage
On 8/19/07, Wade Preston Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I am toying with the idea of dropping Mailman for Google Groups and would like some feedback from the group. Mailman is a nice, old friend that has giving years of dedicated service to the community, but his age is showing. Sure,

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-19 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
Just don't use Google for domains! I moved a few personal and family domains/emails accounts over this weekend and have been in utter bliss. I haven't received a single piece of Spam since the move. I think if they actually integrated the functionality of Google Groups it'd be a

Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups

2007-08-19 Thread Roger Brown
On a side note: On 8/19/07, Wade Preston Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... ... Plus the archives display your email address un-obsficated. ... That's only if you forget to check the checkbox at the bottom of the Admin page for Privacy called: Show member addresses so they're not directly