On 05 Jul 2004, at 13:39, Derek Hohls wrote:
Upayavira
So are you saying tough, we have to fit into some
Apache 'corporate image' ?!... ah, I already miss the
wild free days of the Independant Cocoon Wiki -
maybe a small group of rebels will start a new, hidden
site somewhere on the far side of
Derek Hohls wrote:
Upayavira
Uh, I wasn't really serious here, you know.
I didn't! Thanks for clarifying!
But I think its good that people do know the
benefits of the move... perhaps, as always,
good comms around this change will help
raise awareness and block any (temporary)
negative
It's also much slower than the original.
Derek Hohls wrote:
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel
the new wiki is a major step down from
what we had before even the feather
goes the opposite way!
Is there any way of improving/altering the
look-and-feel to correspond with, ideally,
the old
Derek Hohls wrote:
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel
the new wiki is a major step down from
what we had before even the feather
goes the opposite way!
Why is that? MoinMoin is rich of features so please give us at least one
example of what you do not like.
--
Leszek Gawron
Leszek Gawron dijo:
Derek Hohls wrote:
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel
the new wiki is a major step down from
what we had before even the feather
goes the opposite way!
Why is that? MoinMoin is rich of features so please give us at least one
example of what you do not like.
Am Mo, den 05.07.2004 schrieb Leszek Gawron um 11:25:
Derek Hohls wrote:
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel
the new wiki is a major step down from
what we had before even the feather
goes the opposite way!
Why is that? MoinMoin is rich of features so please give us at least
i think that is more difficult to find your way in this wiki
navigation is more clean in cocoondev's wiki
-- stavros
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004, Leszek Gawron wrote:
Derek Hohls wrote:
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel
the new wiki is a major step down from
what we had before
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i think that is more difficult to find your way in this wiki
navigation is more clean in cocoondev's wiki
My thoughts exactly. With the old wiki it was fairly easy to find stuff.
With this new one, I really have to look hard to get to the bits that I need.
Vil.
--
Yes, the layout needs redoing; we need customizable
menus down the left side please - remember we have
a landscape layout.
The highlight of code snippets inside of the text is
annoying and distracting.
The numbering of sections is very artificial; what is
wrong with large fonts for higher
PS Oh yes, maybe its just my screen, some of the useful
buttons (all very tiny!!) get hidden behind the top 'blue box'
menu unless I make my browser window veeerrryyy wide.
what browser is that? For me they are displayed over the blue box, a bit
messy but at least they are all clickable (Firefox
IE6, Windows
Under Opera 7 they are as you describe, floating
on top of the box, and making things look messy!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004/07/05 12:50:14 PM
PS Oh yes, maybe its just my screen, some of the useful
buttons (all very tiny!!) get hidden behind the top 'blue box'
menu unless I
On 05.07.2004 12:25, Derek Hohls wrote:
The numbering of sections is very artificial; what is
wrong with large fonts for higher level heading and
and smaller ones for lower levels.
The numbering is ok, it probably must only be fixed on most pages. I
have it done for example at
Jorg Heymans wrote:
PS Oh yes, maybe its just my screen, some of the useful
buttons (all very tiny!!) get hidden behind the top 'blue box'
menu unless I make my browser window veeerrryyy wide.
what browser is that? For me they are displayed over the blue box, a
bit messy but at least they are all
Stephan Michels wrote:
Am Mo, den 05.07.2004 schrieb Leszek Gawron um 11:25:
Derek Hohls wrote:
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel
the new wiki is a major step down from
what we had before even the feather
goes the opposite way!
Why is that? MoinMoin is rich of features so
Joerg
OK, I'm just saying that numbering of headings should be a styling
option set by the page author and NOT the default set by the wiki;
in a parallel to numbered vs bulleted lists. Given that virtaully all
pages were created in an environment of no numbering, I think its
fairly safe to
Upayavira
So are you saying tough, we have to fit into some
Apache 'corporate image' ?!... ah, I already miss the
wild free days of the Independant Cocoon Wiki -
maybe a small group of rebels will start a new, hidden
site somewhere on the far side of the world...
Derek
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stephan
Yup - no search box! I *knew* something else was
missing, but I just couldn't find it ;-)
Derek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004/07/05 01:36:43 PM
Stephan Michels wrote:
Am Mo, den 05.07.2004 schrieb Leszek Gawron um 11:25:
Derek Hohls wrote:
Is it just me, or does anyone else
On 05.07.2004 13:37, Derek Hohls wrote:
I am not sure what you mean by this must be done by hand for
the page uploads...
By adding attachment:attachment.zip you can link attachments from with
in the page. But this links must be added by hand.
Joerg
Upayavira wrote:
An extra link or two were added to the list of links along the top.
Makes it a bit ugly on a narrow window.
We need to reduce the number of 'text' links along the top.
That is the global default configuration, we can change it.
Note, any things we think need changing, we
Stephan Michels wrote:
I have the same impression. The content is much less readable.
In what way?
I gather colours and fonts and stuff can be customised.
Read the MoinMoin documentation.
I miss the navigation panel on the left side
Me too, but i don't think that we can have one
(i could be
Joerg Heinicke wrote:
Derek Hohls wrote:
The numbering of sections is very artificial; what is
wrong with large fonts for higher level heading and
and smaller ones for lower levels.
The numbering is ok, it probably must only be fixed on most pages. I
have it done for example at
David
If it can be customized, can someone who has been
doing the port then see that this gets done ; its
pointless asking each individual to do it.
It does seem that the new wiki is much less flexible
than the old, if what you say below is true.
Derek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004/07/05 02:32:29 PM
Nope; we should NOT be trying to fix things
like numbering :by hand: - this is a clear case
for site-wide update!
Its precisely that more informal structure from the
previous Wiki that needs to be retained; as I said
elsewhere, numbering should be at the discretion
of the author.
Derek
[EMAIL
David Crossley wrote:
Stephan Michels wrote:
I have the same impression. The content is much less readable.
In what way?
I gather colours and fonts and stuff can be customised.
Read the MoinMoin documentation.
I miss the navigation panel on the left side
Me too, but i don't think
Stephan Coboos wrote:
... What has MoinMoin todo with cocoon?
We can remove that from the top-panel and put it
on an About page or something.
For the moment you can use it to go to MoinMoin
documentation and read about HelpOnAdministration
Why using the name FrontPage and not Home?
It can be
Jan Hoskens wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
Stephan Michels wrote:
I miss the navigation panel on the left side
Me too, but i don't think that we can have one
(i could be wrong).
It's possible, look at: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ThemeMarket
You'll find a leftsidebar there and
Derek Hohls wrote:
David
If it can be customized, can someone who has been
doing the port then see that this gets done ;
We will do it bit-by-bit.
its pointless asking each individual to do it.
Sorry you missed the point. It is all server-side
config that we will do, not client-side.
It
David Crossley wrote:
Jan Hoskens wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
Stephan Michels wrote:
I miss the navigation panel on the left side
Me too, but i don't think that we can have one
(i could be wrong).
It's possible, look at: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ThemeMarket
I must say that i am flabbergasted by the reaction here.
Everybody was invited to FirstFriday a few days ago
where this conversion and initial setup was the topic.
We could have built on the energy of that to get the
whole setup job done. However only a handful of people
bothered.
Anyway there
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel
the new wiki is a major step down from
what we had before even the feather
goes the opposite way!
Is there any way of improving/altering the
look-and-feel to correspond with, ideally,
the old wiki and, also the main Coocoon
web site ?
yes, it
Meyer, Christian wrote:
... i cant fix that because i dont find a way to create an
account.
It is confusing isn't it. There are some instructions at
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/ConfigTodo
We need to make those instructions more prominent.
I am current looking at enhancing the UserPreferences
Meyer, Christian wrote:
... i cant fix that because i dont find a way to create an
account.
It is confusing isn't it. There are some instructions at
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/ConfigTodo
We need to make those instructions more prominent.
I am current looking at enhancing the
Jan Hoskens wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
Jan Hoskens wrote:
It's possible, look at: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ThemeMarket
You'll find a leftsidebar there and probably some more interesting
things on that wiki concerning layouting.
Great, someone with a constructive comment.
Derek Hohls wrote:
Upayavira
So are you saying tough, we have to fit into some
Apache 'corporate image' ?!... ah, I already miss the
wild free days of the Independant Cocoon Wiki -
maybe a small group of rebels will start a new, hidden
site somewhere on the far side of the world...
Not at all.
Derek Hohls wrote:
David
If it can be customized, can someone who has been
doing the port then see that this gets done ; its
pointless asking each individual to do it.
It does seem that the new wiki is much less flexible
than the old, if what you say below is true.
It can't work that way. I
Derek Hohls wrote:
David
I think there have been a lot of suggestions
that are constructive in the sense that they suggest
what needs to be changed. Unfortunately most
of us are only familiar with what was possible in
JPSwiki and not necessarily moinmoin. I am
sure this will improve over time;
Jan Hoskens wrote:
It's possible, look at: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ThemeMarket
Sorry that is a Moin 1.2 feature and Apache is using 1.1
So we have to live without the side-panel for a while.
There are desires to upgrade soon but not many people
to help. Anyway, i added a note about it.
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