Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Steven D. Majewski sd...@virginia.eduwrote: We've been using Cocoon 2.1.* for some time now, but we haven't really been doing a proper build. We've been building the sample app, and using that as a development base, adding new pipelines and sitemaps, and

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Dominic Mitchell d...@happygiraffe.netwrote: My first question would have been: are the dependencies correct? What happens if you run mvn dependency:tree in the webapp? It should include spring dependencies. For reference, this is what I get when running

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Steven D. Majewski
myBlock1 myBlock2 seem to have all the right dependencies (and they work on their own), but myCocoonWebapp has only the jars from those two blocks: [INFO] [INFO] [dependency:tree {execution: default-cli}] [INFO]

RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Robby Pelssers
, Robby Pelssers -Original Message- From: Steven D. Majewski [mailto:sd...@virginia.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:04 PM To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2] myBlock1 myBlock2 seem to have all the right

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Steven D. Majewski sd...@virginia.eduwrote: myBlock1 myBlock2 seem to have all the right dependencies (and they work on their own), but myCocoonWebapp has only the jars from those two blocks: [INFO]

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Steven D. Majewski
On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Steven D. Majewski sd...@virginia.edu wrote: myBlock1 myBlock2 seem to have all the right dependencies (and they work on their own), but myCocoonWebapp has only the jars from those two blocks: [INFO]

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Steven D. Majewski
I can create, 'mvn install' 'mvn jetty:run' both myBlock1 myBlock2. When I try to connect the two blocks as in http://cocoon.apache.org/2.2/1291_1_1.html , I get this error on either a jetty:run or an install: myBlock1$ mvn jetty:run [INFO] Scanning for projects... [INFO]

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Steven D. Majewski sd...@virginia.eduwrote: I can create, 'mvn install' 'mvn jetty:run' both myBlock1 myBlock2. When I try to connect the two blocks as in http://cocoon.apache.org/2.2/1291_1_1.html, I get this error on either a jetty:run or an install:

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Steven D. Majewski sd...@virginia.eduwrote: Thanks. Yes -- I saw that observation in the other message. However: it wouldn't build doing just a 'mvn install' on the blocks. Was there a particular reason for the failure when you ran mvn install in the blocks?

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Steven D. Majewski
On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Steven D. Majewski wrote: If I comment out the myBlock2 dependency in myBlock1/pom.xml which I just added: !-- dependency groupIdedu.virginia.lib/groupId artifactIdmyBlock2/artifactId version1.0-SNAPSHOT/version /dependency --

RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Robby Pelssers
:23 PM To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2] I can create, 'mvn install' 'mvn jetty:run' both myBlock1 myBlock2. When I try to connect the two blocks as in http://cocoon.apache.org/2.2/1291_1_1.html , I get this error

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Steven D. Majewski
On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Robby Pelssers wrote: So if I understand you correctly you have one block depending on the other? Did you also add the dependency of myblock2 in the pom.xml of myblock1? Yes. ( And if I take that dependency out, it runs without complaint. ) I guess so...

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Steven D. Majewski sd...@virginia.eduwrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Robby Pelssers wrote: So if I understand you correctly you have one block depending on the other? Did you also add the dependency of myblock2 in the pom.xml of myblock1? Yes. ( And

RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Robby Pelssers
To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2] On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Robby Pelssers wrote: So if I understand you correctly you have one block depending on the other? Did you also add the dependency of myblock2 in the pom.xml

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Steven D. Majewski
On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Steven D. Majewski sd...@virginia.edu wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Robby Pelssers wrote: So if I understand you correctly you have one block depending on the other? Did you also add the dependency

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Steven D. Majewski sd...@virginia.eduwrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Steven D. Majewski sd...@virginia.edu wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Robby Pelssers wrote: So if I understand you

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Steven D. Majewski
[mailto:sd...@virginia.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:45 PM To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2] On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Robby Pelssers wrote: So if I understand you correctly you have one block depending

RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Robby Pelssers
this will not work anymore. So don't think you're there yet ;-) Robby -Original Message- From: Steven D. Majewski [mailto:sd...@virginia.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:58 PM To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Robby Pelssers
] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:02 PM To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2] On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Robby Pelssers wrote: Ok... Check in eclipse the value of M2_REPO: Window - Preferences - Java - Build path

RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Robby Pelssers
Pelssers [mailto:robby.pelss...@ciber.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:10 PM To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2] Aha... so that explains why the myBlock2.jar IS still in the classpath... lol If you were to do mvn

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Steven D. Majewski
...@ciber.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:10 PM To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2] Aha... so that explains why the myBlock2.jar IS still in the classpath... lol If you were to do mvn eclipse:eclipse again

RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Robby Pelssers
. Majewski [mailto:sd...@virginia.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:22 PM To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2] On Sep 23, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Robby Pelssers wrote: Ok...here is what I want you to do in this order

RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Robby Pelssers
To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2] Could you attach both poms to a reply? I'd love to see if I can track down some mistake there... It's really getting stranger by the minute... I wouldn't expect maven to complain without

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Steven D. Majewski
: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2] Could you attach both poms to a reply? I'd love to see if I can track down some mistake there... It's really getting stranger by the minute... I wouldn't expect maven to complain without a good reason. Maybe some small

RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Robby Pelssers
To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2] Could you attach both poms to a reply? I'd love to see if I can track down some mistake there... It's really getting stranger by the minute... I wouldn't expect maven to complain

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Steven D. Majewski sd...@virginia.eduwrote: Thank You!! Both 1.0.0 and 1.0-SNAPSHOT are mismatched in the documentation. I was following the instructions a little too exactly! I wondered about this mismatch at the time, but I thought that perhaps SNAPSHOT

RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Robby Pelssers
@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2] On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Steven D. Majewski sd...@virginia.edu wrote: Thank You!! Both 1.0.0 and 1.0-SNAPSHOT are mismatched in the documentation. I

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-23 Thread Steven D. Majewski
On Sep 23, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Robby Pelssers wrote: True… the same here… but if I had no prior maven knowledge this might be a bit trickier to spot. I guess it’s time to have that documentation published again… HINT HINT. Robby This may also need updating:

problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-22 Thread Steven D. Majewski
We've been using Cocoon 2.1.* for some time now, but we haven't really been doing a proper build. We've been building the sample app, and using that as a development base, adding new pipelines and sitemaps, and eventually, removing the samples directory before deploying. I've started to

Re: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-22 Thread Steven D. Majewski
PS: That Could not instantiate listener org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoaderListener java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoaderListener [ ... stack trace ... ] warning is the first of several messages. There is also: 2009-09-22

RE: problems with Getting Started 2.2 [was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2]

2009-09-22 Thread Robby Pelssers
[was: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2] PS: That Could not instantiate listener org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoaderListener java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoaderListener [ ... stack trace ... ] warning is the first of several messages

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-14 Thread Derek Hohls
Personally, I would think that Cocoon 2.1 is the most well-developed and stable of the series. 2.0 is really out-of-date. 2.2 might be worth tackling if you're prepared to learn the associated frameworks such as Spring and Hibernate, plus be prepared to do Java coding; but, as many others have

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-14 Thread David Beasley
Thanks for all the further suggestions. I'll use Coccon 2.1. (I dont know anything about Spring/Maven/Hibernate) Derek Hohls wrote: Personally, I would think that Cocoon 2.1 is the most well-developed and stable of the series. 2.0 is really out-of-date. 2.2 might be worth tackling if you're

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-12 Thread Barbara Slupik
Hello I wrote two applications using CForms, Spring and Hibernate in Cocoon 2.1. It found it relatively easy to upgrade them to Cocoon 2.2. I think that CForms, Spring and Hibernate work very well together. But the same client also has a couple of old applications which still run in

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-11 Thread Jeroen Reijn
...which in turn would result in Hippo 7 to get a Cocoon front-end, right? :-) Well yes that could indeed happen, but we're not there yet. :-) Jeroen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@cocoon.apache.org For

Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread David Beasley
I'm looking for help with starting to use Cocoon 2.2. I've looked at the website (cocoon.apache.org), but havent found very much in terms of introductory guides, tutorials, etc. I'm just about to embark on a new project, which will involve handling SOAP requests, fetching data from an Oracle

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread David Legg
Hi David, I'm just about to embark on a new project... I'd like to use Cocoon 2.2 for this, but I'm concerned about the apparent lack of support for it. It is true that Cocoon has hit a low point at the moment and I'm sure many of us wonder if it will ever recover. Many of the original

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Ellis Pritchard
Lamentable indeed. Having taken a break from Cocoon 2.1 at work, and returned to 2.2, after much pain and frustration at recreating what was in cocoon using 'pure' java and spring mvc + freemarker (urgh) + 1000's of lines of horrible java to do stuff cocoon did for free, I realize how much

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Francesco Chicchiriccò
On 10/sep/09, at 15:05, Ellis Pritchard wrote: Lamentable indeed. Having taken a break from Cocoon 2.1 at work, and returned to 2.2, after much pain and frustration at recreating what was in cocoon using 'pure' java and spring mvc + freemarker (urgh) + 1000's of lines of horrible java to

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Andre Juffer
Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote: On 10/sep/09, at 15:05, Ellis Pritchard wrote: Lamentable indeed. Having taken a break from Cocoon 2.1 at work, and returned to 2.2, after much pain and frustration at recreating what was in cocoon using 'pure' java and spring mvc + freemarker (urgh) + 1000's

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Jeroen Reijn
Well I think that some people have put Cocoon on a low profile. There were a lot of great frameworks added to the ASF code base lately, which made people broaden their perspective. I don't really think that people quit working with/on Cocoon, because Cocoon 2.1 is stable and a lot of people

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Francesco Chicchiriccò
On 10/sep/09, at 16:55, Jeroen Reijn wrote Well I think that some people have put Cocoon on a low profile. There were a lot of great frameworks added to the ASF code base lately, which made people broaden their perspective. I don't really think that people quit working with/on Cocoon,

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread warrell harries
IMHO, developers tend to mirror the general population in that the majority follow the herd. The habits of imperative Java programming and the not-invented-here syndrome meant that Cocoon was only ever going to appeal to a minority of enlightened developers. Maven is a head f*ck for the average

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread David Beasley
Thanks for everyone's responses. I'm beginning to think that I should use Cocoon 2.0, because at least I know this is well documented. Which is a shame after people have put a lot of effort into developing versions 2.1 and 2.2 ... David Legg wrote: Most of the useful documentation can be

RE: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Robby Pelssers
- From: David Beasley [mailto:david.beas...@publishingtechnology.com] Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:44 PM To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2 Thanks for everyone's responses. I'm beginning to think that I should use Cocoon 2.0, because at least I know

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Kamal Bhatt
David Beasley wrote: I'm looking for help with starting to use Cocoon 2.2. I've looked at the website (cocoon.apache.org), but havent found very much in terms of introductory guides, tutorials, etc. Tutorials are something that is really lacking. I don't know if it is me, but I think that

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Kamal Bhatt
David Beasley wrote: Thanks for everyone's responses. I'm beginning to think that I should use Cocoon 2.0, because at least I know this is well documented. Which is a shame after people have put a lot of effort into developing versions 2.1 and 2.2 ... I would recommend Cocoon 2.1. The

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Franco Pace
Version 2.1 is still king for me! On 11/09/2009, at 2:44 AM, David Beasley wrote: Thanks for everyone's responses. I'm beginning to think that I should use Cocoon 2.0, because at least I know this is well documented. Which is a shame after people have put a lot of effort into developing

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Jos Snellings
Hi, Recognizing the feeling of disconcertation when after having worked with Cocoon 2.1 one comes back and finds out about Cocoon 2.2. - many things have changed, (striving towards MVC paradigm) which is OK, if things are improving - Cocoon still depends on Avalon (which caused me troubles in