[Users] VASP needed?

2010-05-11 Thread Thomas Sieh
Hello,

I read the userguide, but I am not sure if I realy need VASP or better
what I realy have to implement.
I want to be able to send MMS from my computer and be able to receive
MMS from other handsets.
Is it correct, that I only need the mmsc-url from my operator for
sending and have to setup a VASP-Server to receive my messages from this
MMSC?

Thanks in advance
Thomas


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RE: [Users] VASP needed?

2010-05-11 Thread Cristian Padilla Duff
Hi Thomas,

If i am not wrong .. the correct way is this:

To send MMS:

With a short number: you will need the autentification from the MMSC
(operator) to make this communication possible.

Using a Fake number from mbuni, you don't need operator, the only
thing you need is the url who you will call to make the mms and send it to
the mobile.

To receive MMS:

There are 2 ways to do this:

With operator, by this way you will need to be configurated
in the MMSC in the operator with a URL of mbuni who will response with a XML
after the request of the operator (short number).

Configurate the mobile with the url of mbuni in the setup
part (mms server, internet configuration).

I hope this information can be usefull for you

PS: I some one read this and saw that I am wrong please ... do the honors
and correct me  Thanks

Byez


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Thomas Sieh
Enviado el: martes, 11 de mayo de 2010 13:14
Para: users@mbuni.org
Asunto: [Users] VASP needed?

Hello,

I read the userguide, but I am not sure if I realy need VASP or better
what I realy have to implement.
I want to be able to send MMS from my computer and be able to receive
MMS from other handsets.
Is it correct, that I only need the mmsc-url from my operator for
sending and have to setup a VASP-Server to receive my messages from this
MMSC?

Thanks in advance
Thomas



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[Users] Re: VASP needed?

2010-05-11 Thread Thomas Sieh
Hi Christian, 

thank you for your fast reply.

I am not sure if we are talking from the same, or i don't understand 
it, yet. I have got a handset as smsc in kannel, connected with 
usb-cable, with which i want to send and receive mms and sms from the 
same computer.



On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:15:34PM -0400, Cristian Padilla Duff wrote:
| Hi Thomas,
| 
| If i am not wrong .. the correct way is this:
| 
| To send MMS:
| 
|   With a short number: you will need the autentification from the MMSC
| (operator) to make this communication possible.
| 
|   Using a Fake number from mbuni, you don't need operator, the only
| thing you need is the url who you will call to make the mms and send it to
| the mobile.


I don't have any authentification informations. I only know the
MMS-Server-Url and the ip of the gateway and the port for wap.
Or do you talking about doing nothing without creating MMS, like the
procedure of wap push in kannel?


| 
| To receive MMS:
| 
|   There are 2 ways to do this:
| 
|   With operator, by this way you will need to be configurated
| in the MMSC in the operator with a URL of mbuni who will response with a XML
| after the request of the operator (short number).
| 
|   Configurate the mobile with the url of mbuni in the setup
| part (mms server, internet configuration).

I do not understand this. Isn't it, that I have to configure Mbuni with
the same parameters like the sending mobile phone? if I configure the
phone with the parameter of my mbuni, how could the mobile fetch the mms from
its mmsc? then he don't know we to get it, or i'm wrong?



| 
| I hope this information can be usefull for you
| 
| PS: I some one read this and saw that I am wrong please ... do the honors
| and correct me  Thanks
| 
| Byez
| 
| 
| -Mensaje original-
| De: users-boun...@mbuni.org [mailto:users-boun...@mbuni.org] En nombre de
| Thomas Sieh
| Enviado el: martes, 11 de mayo de 2010 13:14
| Para: users@mbuni.org
| Asunto: [Users] VASP needed?
| 
| Hello,
| 
| I read the userguide, but I am not sure if I realy need VASP or better
| what I realy have to implement.
| I want to be able to send MMS from my computer and be able to receive
| MMS from other handsets.
| Is it correct, that I only need the mmsc-url from my operator for
| sending and have to setup a VASP-Server to receive my messages from this
| MMSC?
| 
| Thanks in advance
| Thomas


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[Users] RE: VASP needed?

2010-05-11 Thread Cristian Padilla Duff
Thomas,

Aps ok ... now i get it,  you need to see the documentation
about how to create a mmsc with a MODEM (it's the same that you have ... the
only difference is that you are using a handset not a modem). 
But  do you want to use your server(kannel/mbuni) as mmsc and smsc ...
that's what you want to do ?? receiving the mms in the same pc that you are
sending?? Or using internet to send him to other server?




-Mensaje original-
De: Thomas Sieh [mailto:ts...@gmx.de] 
Enviado el: martes, 11 de mayo de 2010 17:05
Para: Cristian Padilla Duff
CC: ts...@gmx.de; users@mbuni.org
Asunto: Re: VASP needed?

Hi Christian, 

thank you for your fast reply.

I am not sure if we are talking from the same, or i don't understand 
it, yet. I have got a handset as smsc in kannel, connected with 
usb-cable, with which i want to send and receive mms and sms from the 
same computer.



On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:15:34PM -0400, Cristian Padilla Duff wrote:
| Hi Thomas,
| 
| If i am not wrong .. the correct way is this:
| 
| To send MMS:
| 
|   With a short number: you will need the autentification from the MMSC
| (operator) to make this communication possible.
| 
|   Using a Fake number from mbuni, you don't need operator, the only
| thing you need is the url who you will call to make the mms and send it to
| the mobile.


I don't have any authentification informations. I only know the
MMS-Server-Url and the ip of the gateway and the port for wap.
Or do you talking about doing nothing without creating MMS, like the
procedure of wap push in kannel?


| 
| To receive MMS:
| 
|   There are 2 ways to do this:
| 
|   With operator, by this way you will need to be configurated
| in the MMSC in the operator with a URL of mbuni who will response with a
XML
| after the request of the operator (short number).
| 
|   Configurate the mobile with the url of mbuni in the setup
| part (mms server, internet configuration).

I do not understand this. Isn't it, that I have to configure Mbuni with
the same parameters like the sending mobile phone? if I configure the
phone with the parameter of my mbuni, how could the mobile fetch the mms
from
its mmsc? then he don't know we to get it, or i'm wrong?



| 
| I hope this information can be usefull for you
| 
| PS: I some one read this and saw that I am wrong please ... do the honors
| and correct me  Thanks
| 
| Byez
| 
| 
| -Mensaje original-
| De: users-boun...@mbuni.org [mailto:users-boun...@mbuni.org] En nombre de
| Thomas Sieh
| Enviado el: martes, 11 de mayo de 2010 13:14
| Para: users@mbuni.org
| Asunto: [Users] VASP needed?
| 
| Hello,
| 
| I read the userguide, but I am not sure if I realy need VASP or better
| what I realy have to implement.
| I want to be able to send MMS from my computer and be able to receive
| MMS from other handsets.
| Is it correct, that I only need the mmsc-url from my operator for
| sending and have to setup a VASP-Server to receive my messages from this
| MMSC?
| 
| Thanks in advance
| Thomas



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[Users] Re: VASP needed?

2010-05-11 Thread Thomas Sieh
I want to send and receive sms and mms on my computer (one computer for
all issues), which uses the mobile phone as interface to the world.
I want to manipulate and store the received messages at my computer.
MMS and SMS should only be send to other private handsets, no servers. 


On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 05:27:03PM -0400, Cristian Padilla Duff wrote:
| Thomas,
| 
|   Aps ok ... now i get it,  you need to see the documentation
| about how to create a mmsc with a MODEM (it's the same that you have ... the
| only difference is that you are using a handset not a modem). 
| But  do you want to use your server(kannel/mbuni) as mmsc and smsc ...
| that's what you want to do ?? receiving the mms in the same pc that you are
| sending?? Or using internet to send him to other server?
| 
| 
| 
| 
| -Mensaje original-
| De: Thomas Sieh [mailto:ts...@gmx.de] 
| Enviado el: martes, 11 de mayo de 2010 17:05
| Para: Cristian Padilla Duff
| CC: ts...@gmx.de; users@mbuni.org
| Asunto: Re: VASP needed?
| 
| Hi Christian, 
| 
| thank you for your fast reply.
| 
| I am not sure if we are talking from the same, or i don't understand 
| it, yet. I have got a handset as smsc in kannel, connected with 
| usb-cable, with which i want to send and receive mms and sms from the 
| same computer.
| 
| 
| 
| On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:15:34PM -0400, Cristian Padilla Duff wrote:
| | Hi Thomas,
| | 
| | If i am not wrong .. the correct way is this:
| | 
| | To send MMS:
| | 
| | With a short number: you will need the autentification from the MMSC
| | (operator) to make this communication possible.
| | 
| | Using a Fake number from mbuni, you don't need operator, the only
| | thing you need is the url who you will call to make the mms and send it to
| | the mobile.
| 
| 
| I don't have any authentification informations. I only know the
| MMS-Server-Url and the ip of the gateway and the port for wap.
| Or do you talking about doing nothing without creating MMS, like the
| procedure of wap push in kannel?
| 
| 
| | 
| | To receive MMS:
| | 
| | There are 2 ways to do this:
| | 
| | With operator, by this way you will need to be configurated
| | in the MMSC in the operator with a URL of mbuni who will response with a
| XML
| | after the request of the operator (short number).
| | 
| | Configurate the mobile with the url of mbuni in the setup
| | part (mms server, internet configuration).
| 
| I do not understand this. Isn't it, that I have to configure Mbuni with
| the same parameters like the sending mobile phone? if I configure the
| phone with the parameter of my mbuni, how could the mobile fetch the mms
| from
| its mmsc? then he don't know we to get it, or i'm wrong?
| 
| 
| 
| | 
| | I hope this information can be usefull for you
| | 
| | PS: I some one read this and saw that I am wrong please ... do the honors
| | and correct me  Thanks
| | 
| | Byez
| | 
| | 
| | -Mensaje original-
| | De: users-boun...@mbuni.org [mailto:users-boun...@mbuni.org] En nombre de
| | Thomas Sieh
| | Enviado el: martes, 11 de mayo de 2010 13:14
| | Para: users@mbuni.org
| | Asunto: [Users] VASP needed?
| | 
| | Hello,
| | 
| | I read the userguide, but I am not sure if I realy need VASP or better
| | what I realy have to implement.
| | I want to be able to send MMS from my computer and be able to receive
| | MMS from other handsets.
| | Is it correct, that I only need the mmsc-url from my operator for
| | sending and have to setup a VASP-Server to receive my messages from this
| | MMSC?
| | 
| | Thanks in advance
| | Thomas
| 
| 
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[Users] RE: VASP needed?

2010-05-11 Thread Cristian Padilla Duff
OK ... to send mms using the handset you must find in Internet the
configuration (or do it your self) for the mbuni.

For receive the mms using the handset as modem you need to find the
configuration needed.

Sorry but what you are trying to do is not so simple :P

- first you need to configured the server using the handset as modem
- configured the server (mbumi/kannel) to take the handset as modem and send
mms thru him.
- configured the server to some way receive the mms from other handset
(assuming that the server know that the mms destinatary is the handset using
as modem)

Sorry :( 

-Mensaje original-
De: Thomas Sieh [mailto:ts...@gmx.de] 
Enviado el: martes, 11 de mayo de 2010 18:09
Para: Cristian Padilla Duff
CC: ts...@gmx.de; users@mbuni.org
Asunto: Re: VASP needed?

I want to send and receive sms and mms on my computer (one computer for
all issues), which uses the mobile phone as interface to the world.
I want to manipulate and store the received messages at my computer.
MMS and SMS should only be send to other private handsets, no servers. 


On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 05:27:03PM -0400, Cristian Padilla Duff wrote:
| Thomas,
| 
|   Aps ok ... now i get it,  you need to see the documentation
| about how to create a mmsc with a MODEM (it's the same that you have ...
the
| only difference is that you are using a handset not a modem). 
| But  do you want to use your server(kannel/mbuni) as mmsc and smsc ...
| that's what you want to do ?? receiving the mms in the same pc that you
are
| sending?? Or using internet to send him to other server?
| 
| 
| 
| 
| -Mensaje original-
| De: Thomas Sieh [mailto:ts...@gmx.de] 
| Enviado el: martes, 11 de mayo de 2010 17:05
| Para: Cristian Padilla Duff
| CC: ts...@gmx.de; users@mbuni.org
| Asunto: Re: VASP needed?
| 
| Hi Christian, 
| 
| thank you for your fast reply.
| 
| I am not sure if we are talking from the same, or i don't understand 
| it, yet. I have got a handset as smsc in kannel, connected with 
| usb-cable, with which i want to send and receive mms and sms from the 
| same computer.
| 
| 
| 
| On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:15:34PM -0400, Cristian Padilla Duff wrote:
| | Hi Thomas,
| | 
| | If i am not wrong .. the correct way is this:
| | 
| | To send MMS:
| | 
| | With a short number: you will need the autentification from the MMSC
| | (operator) to make this communication possible.
| | 
| | Using a Fake number from mbuni, you don't need operator, the only
| | thing you need is the url who you will call to make the mms and send it
to
| | the mobile.
| 
| 
| I don't have any authentification informations. I only know the
| MMS-Server-Url and the ip of the gateway and the port for wap.
| Or do you talking about doing nothing without creating MMS, like the
| procedure of wap push in kannel?
| 
| 
| | 
| | To receive MMS:
| | 
| | There are 2 ways to do this:
| | 
| | With operator, by this way you will need to be configurated
| | in the MMSC in the operator with a URL of mbuni who will response with a
| XML
| | after the request of the operator (short number).
| | 
| | Configurate the mobile with the url of mbuni in the setup
| | part (mms server, internet configuration).
| 
| I do not understand this. Isn't it, that I have to configure Mbuni with
| the same parameters like the sending mobile phone? if I configure the
| phone with the parameter of my mbuni, how could the mobile fetch the mms
| from
| its mmsc? then he don't know we to get it, or i'm wrong?
| 
| 
| 
| | 
| | I hope this information can be usefull for you
| | 
| | PS: I some one read this and saw that I am wrong please ... do the
honors
| | and correct me  Thanks
| | 
| | Byez
| | 
| | 
| | -Mensaje original-
| | De: users-boun...@mbuni.org [mailto:users-boun...@mbuni.org] En nombre
de
| | Thomas Sieh
| | Enviado el: martes, 11 de mayo de 2010 13:14
| | Para: users@mbuni.org
| | Asunto: [Users] VASP needed?
| | 
| | Hello,
| | 
| | I read the userguide, but I am not sure if I realy need VASP or better
| | what I realy have to implement.
| | I want to be able to send MMS from my computer and be able to receive
| | MMS from other handsets.
| | Is it correct, that I only need the mmsc-url from my operator for
| | sending and have to setup a VASP-Server to receive my messages from this
| | MMSC?
| | 
| | Thanks in advance
| | Thomas
| 
| 
| 
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[Users] Re: VASP needed?

2010-05-11 Thread Thomas Sieh
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 06:47:11PM -0400, Cristian Padilla Duff wrote:
| OK ... to send mms using the handset you must find in Internet the
| configuration (or do it your self) for the mbuni.
| 
| For receive the mms using the handset as modem you need to find the
| configuration needed.
| 
| Sorry but what you are trying to do is not so simple :P

:(

| 
| - first you need to configured the server using the handset as modem
| - configured the server (mbumi/kannel) to take the handset as modem and send
| mms thru him.

That don't sound impossible :)

| - configured the server to some way receive the mms from other handset
| (assuming that the server know that the mms destinatary is the handset using
| as modem)

I thought it is possible to fetch the MMS messages directly from my own
MMSC, by using a WAP-Connection, isn't it? If it is too complicated the
other handsets have to send their MMS to a E-Mail-Account. Then I will
fetch the Messages with POP3 :-/ dirty workaround but better than spend
much time on this issue.

| 
| Sorry :( 

Thank you for your help. I hope I can return the favor someday.

| 
| -Mensaje original-
| De: Thomas Sieh [mailto:ts...@gmx.de] 
| Enviado el: martes, 11 de mayo de 2010 18:09
| Para: Cristian Padilla Duff
| CC: ts...@gmx.de; users@mbuni.org
| Asunto: Re: VASP needed?
| 
| I want to send and receive sms and mms on my computer (one computer for
| all issues), which uses the mobile phone as interface to the world.
| I want to manipulate and store the received messages at my computer.
| MMS and SMS should only be send to other private handsets, no servers. 
| 
| 
| On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 05:27:03PM -0400, Cristian Padilla Duff wrote:
| | Thomas,
| | 
| | Aps ok ... now i get it,  you need to see the documentation
| | about how to create a mmsc with a MODEM (it's the same that you have ...
| the
| | only difference is that you are using a handset not a modem). 
| | But  do you want to use your server(kannel/mbuni) as mmsc and smsc ...
| | that's what you want to do ?? receiving the mms in the same pc that you
| are
| | sending?? Or using internet to send him to other server?
| | 
| | 
| | 
| | 
| | -Mensaje original-
| | De: Thomas Sieh [mailto:ts...@gmx.de] 
| | Enviado el: martes, 11 de mayo de 2010 17:05
| | Para: Cristian Padilla Duff
| | CC: ts...@gmx.de; users@mbuni.org
| | Asunto: Re: VASP needed?
| | 
| | Hi Christian, 
| | 
| | thank you for your fast reply.
| | 
| | I am not sure if we are talking from the same, or i don't understand 
| | it, yet. I have got a handset as smsc in kannel, connected with 
| | usb-cable, with which i want to send and receive mms and sms from the 
| | same computer.
| | 
| | 
| | 
| | On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:15:34PM -0400, Cristian Padilla Duff wrote:
| | | Hi Thomas,
| | | 
| | | If i am not wrong .. the correct way is this:
| | | 
| | | To send MMS:
| | | 
| | |   With a short number: you will need the autentification from the MMSC
| | | (operator) to make this communication possible.
| | | 
| | |   Using a Fake number from mbuni, you don't need operator, the only
| | | thing you need is the url who you will call to make the mms and send it
| to
| | | the mobile.
| | 
| | 
| | I don't have any authentification informations. I only know the
| | MMS-Server-Url and the ip of the gateway and the port for wap.
| | Or do you talking about doing nothing without creating MMS, like the
| | procedure of wap push in kannel?
| | 
| | 
| | | 
| | | To receive MMS:
| | | 
| | |   There are 2 ways to do this:
| | | 
| | |   With operator, by this way you will need to be configurated
| | | in the MMSC in the operator with a URL of mbuni who will response with a
| | XML
| | | after the request of the operator (short number).
| | | 
| | |   Configurate the mobile with the url of mbuni in the setup
| | | part (mms server, internet configuration).
| | 
| | I do not understand this. Isn't it, that I have to configure Mbuni with
| | the same parameters like the sending mobile phone? if I configure the
| | phone with the parameter of my mbuni, how could the mobile fetch the mms
| | from
| | its mmsc? then he don't know we to get it, or i'm wrong?
| | 
| | 
| | 
| | | 
| | | I hope this information can be usefull for you
| | | 
| | | PS: I some one read this and saw that I am wrong please ... do the
| honors
| | | and correct me  Thanks
| | | 
| | | Byez
| | | 
| | | 
| | | -Mensaje original-
| | | De: users-boun...@mbuni.org [mailto:users-boun...@mbuni.org] En nombre
| de
| | | Thomas Sieh
| | | Enviado el: martes, 11 de mayo de 2010 13:14
| | | Para: users@mbuni.org
| | | Asunto: [Users] VASP needed?
| | | 
| | | Hello,
| | | 
| | | I read the userguide, but I am not sure if I realy need VASP or better
| | | what I realy have to implement.
| | | I want to be able to send MMS from my computer and be able to receive
| | | MMS from other handsets.
| | | Is it correct, that I only need the