Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-26 Thread jidanni
DNS seems to have been reporting 709395 as current for about eight weeks HK If you want more up-to-date protection, use latest SVN (3.3). That's where HK the development happens. It's been working fine here for a long time. All I know is I have $ crontab -l 33 3 * * * PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-26 Thread Henrik K
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 04:31:48AM +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: DNS seems to have been reporting 709395 as current for about eight weeks HK If you want more up-to-date protection, use latest SVN (3.3). That's where HK the development happens. It's been working fine here for a long time.

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-26 Thread jidanni
HK If SVN does not ring a bell, Oh, you mean like the example on http://svn.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/trunk/grub2/docs/grub.texi?root=grubview=log $ svn co svn://svn.sv.gnu.org/grub/trunk/grub2/docs/grub.texi svn: URL 'svn://svn.sv.gnu.org/grub/trunk/grub2/docs/grub.texi' refers to a file, not a

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-23 Thread Mike Bird
is getting through. Have the stock rule updates ceased? --Mike Bird -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/sa-update-damages-existing-SA-installation-tp21077491p21147137.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 22/12/2008 12:11 PM, Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote: From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:spamassas...@dostech.ca] Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 2:48 AM On 19/12/2008 5:40 AM, Marcin Krol wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: do it all at once. See my SARE sa-update page for details:

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 23/12/2008 11:18 AM, Mike Bird wrote: Karsten Bräckelmann-2 wrote: Daily is fine, cause it means a single DNS request only most of the time. Updates of the stock rules however usually are less frequent than once a week. DNS seems to have been reporting 709395 as current for about eight

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-23 Thread Henrik K
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 08:18:50AM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: Karsten Bräckelmann-2 wrote: Daily is fine, cause it means a single DNS request only most of the time. Updates of the stock rules however usually are less frequent than once a week. DNS seems to have been reporting 709395 as

RE: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-22 Thread Rosenbaum, Larry M.
From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:spamassas...@dostech.ca] Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 2:48 AM On 19/12/2008 5:40 AM, Marcin Krol wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: do it all at once. See my SARE sa-update page for details:

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-22 Thread Bill Landry
Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote: From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:spamassas...@dostech.ca] Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 2:48 AM On 19/12/2008 5:40 AM, Marcin Krol wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: do it all at once. See my SARE sa-update page for details:

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-20 Thread mouss
Gene Heskett a écrit : On Friday 19 December 2008, mouss wrote: Gene Heskett a écrit : OTOH, if I run it as root, then the clients have no perms. Tell me a way around that please. I run it as root, like almost everybody. the clients only need read access to the directory, which should be

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-19 Thread mouss
Gene Heskett a écrit : On Thursday 18 December 2008, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Gene Heskett wrote on Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:13:28 -0500: Following the above tut, step 2 fails as root owns the /etc/mail tree, and the user running SA has no perms. What should the owner/group actually be for that? I

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-19 Thread Marcin Krol
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: do it all at once. See my SARE sa-update page for details: http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/sare/sare-sa-update-howto.txt Are SARE rules still being updated a bit at least / are they still working? The home page bears warning IMPORTANT: Due to Ninjas being busy

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 December 2008, mouss wrote: Gene Heskett a écrit : On Thursday 18 December 2008, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Gene Heskett wrote on Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:13:28 -0500: Following the above tut, step 2 fails as root owns the /etc/mail tree, and the user running SA has no perms. What should the

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-19 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Gene Heskett wrote on Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:04:52 -0500: 2. And what do I do to my /etc/init.d/spamassassin script so it will use the newly fetched .cf files instead of the ones in /usr/share/spamassassin? is that spamd or what? Reload it. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 December 2008, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Gene Heskett wrote on Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:04:52 -0500: 2. And what do I do to my /etc/init.d/spamassassin script so it will use the newly fetched .cf files instead of the ones in /usr/share/spamassassin? is that spamd or what? Reload it. Kai

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-19 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Gene Heskett wrote on Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:43:13 -0500: Anything else, like setting up a weekly update run in that new users crontab? sure. I think most people do it daily. If you use sa-compile adds this to the script as well. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-19 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 16:31 +0100, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Gene Heskett wrote on Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:43:13 -0500: Anything else, like setting up a weekly update run in that new users crontab? sure. I think most people do it daily. If you use sa-compile adds this to the script as well.

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-19 Thread mouss
Gene Heskett a écrit : Stumbling around in the dark, I created that user, and chowned the /var/lib/spamassassin directory to that user:mail, made saupdate a member of group mail. Why? if you do random mixing of owners and groups, you'll end up making your system more vulnerable than it

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 December 2008, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Gene Heskett wrote on Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:43:13 -0500: Anything else, like setting up a weekly update run in that new users crontab? sure. I think most people do it daily. If you use sa-compile adds this to the script as well. Kai I didn't want

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 December 2008, mouss wrote: Gene Heskett a écrit : Stumbling around in the dark, I created that user, and chowned the /var/lib/spamassassin directory to that user:mail, made saupdate a member of group mail. Why? if you do random mixing of owners and groups, you'll end up making

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-19 Thread mouss
Gene Heskett a écrit : OTOH, if I run it as root, then the clients have no perms. Tell me a way around that please. I run it as root, like almost everybody. the clients only need read access to the directory, which should be the case by default, unless you played with the root umask.

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 December 2008, mouss wrote: Gene Heskett a écrit : OTOH, if I run it as root, then the clients have no perms. Tell me a way around that please. I run it as root, like almost everybody. the clients only need read access to the directory, which should be the case by default, unless

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-19 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 19/12/2008 5:40 AM, Marcin Krol wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: do it all at once. See my SARE sa-update page for details: http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/sare/sare-sa-update-howto.txt Are SARE rules still being updated a bit at least / are they still working? The only one really

sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-18 Thread Marcin Krol
Hello everyone, When I run sa-update -D --gpgkey 6C6191E3 --channel sought.rules.yerp.org, it damages my SA installation! After the update, I get: orchidea 192.168.1.1 ~/tmp % spamassassin --lint [15235] warn: config: warning: score set for non-existent rule URIBL_SBL [15235] warn: config:

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-18 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: Marcin Krol mrk...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:37:12 +0100 Hello everyone, When I run sa-update -D --gpgkey 6C6191E3 --channel sought.rules.yerp.org, it damages my SA installation! sa-update puts rules in /var/lib/spamassassin/VER Once this directory

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-18 Thread Marcin Krol
Jeff Mincy wrote: sa-update puts rules in /var/lib/spamassassin/VER Once this directory exists all site rules are expected to come from this directory. I found out that... The previous installation directory (eg /usr/local/share/spamassassin) is ignored. ..but not that. Now it makes

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-18 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 18/12/2008 1:00 PM, Marcin Krol wrote: Jeff Mincy wrote: Try doing sa-update of the normal rules before you use sa-update of additional rule sets. Hmm, how do I do that? sa-update -–channel updates.spamassassin.org ? Sure, or just run sa-update without a channel parameter or so create a

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-18 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Marcin Krol wrote on Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:00:55 +0100: Hmm, how do I do that? sa-update -–channel updates.spamassassin.org ? just sa-update. If you want to add other channels you either do it like Daryl explains in the link below or one by one. Is there a way to *sensibly* combine JM's

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 December 2008, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Marcin Krol wrote on Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:00:55 +0100: Hmm, how do I do that? sa-update -–channel updates.spamassassin.org ? just sa-update. If you want to add other channels you either do it like Daryl explains in the link below or one by one.

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-18 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Gene Heskett wrote on Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:13:28 -0500: Following the above tut, step 2 fails as root owns the /etc/mail tree, and the user running SA has no perms. What should the owner/group actually be for that? I changed it to $user:mail and that seemed to fix it. I assume your are

Re: sa-update damages existing SA installation

2008-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 December 2008, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Gene Heskett wrote on Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:13:28 -0500: Following the above tut, step 2 fails as root owns the /etc/mail tree, and the user running SA has no perms. What should the owner/group actually be for that? I changed it to $user:mail