On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, James R. Frysinger wrote:
Try to understand that, as I teach physics I must convince my students
that the pascal cubic meter is indeed a unit of energy. (Cf: PV=nRT) All
to often, they think that since their answer did not come out in joules
(which they learned
Louis Jourdan writes:
At 15:02 -0600 12/07/2002, Jim Elwell wrote:
...Europeans are hardly the only people using or promoting the
metric system,
and hardly deserve sole credit for its spread.
Well... The spread of the metric system started with the preparation
of the Metre
At 10:52 PM 7/13/2002 -0400, James R. Frysinger wrote:
...Try to understand that, as I teach physics I must convince my students
that the pascal cubic meter is indeed a unit of energy. (Cf: PV=nRT)
This is an interesting unit -- do you have some kind of problem for your
students that generates
I noticed on weather.com that SLC was at 27 C this morning, and 30%
humidity. The web site also indicated that this feels like 26 C.
When the humidity is higher, the feels like is higher than the actual.
Does anyone know at what humidity the actual temperature feels like the
same temperature?
A kilometre is 0.621 of a mile. However, it is thought the government will
not reset a 70mph sign at the accurate conversion of 110kph, but at 100kph
in an attempt to reduce accidents.
This is precisely the sort of woolly-headed thinking that will damage
metric transition. It is analogous to
Might be the Guinness :-)
cheers
Baron Carter
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From: Tom Wade VMS Systems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 15 July, 2002 08:29
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:21093] UK road signs
A kilometre is 0.621 of a mile. However, it is thought the
Hello All,
I just heard Paul Harvey (a well-known US radio commentator) announce that
the Euro and the US Dollar are at 1:1 parity today.
At the very least, this should give the EU a psychological boost, because
now they know the Euro can compete with the US Dollar in terms of value. --
Jason
Dear Carl, first of all, please note that 'convenience' is more of a relative concept.
A good deal of time this characteristic is tied to subjective opinions; at other
times it's driven by applications that use the units in question.
These are some of the reasons why we can NEVER satisfy
In my opinion the UK should organize and schedule a small refreshment exam for the
drivers. Something in the lines of a quick test based only on metric road signs.
In such manner the drivers will not be able to claim that they are confused.
This refresher could be spread over a one year period
It is true, on Euronews it was listed at 1.005 $/.
I assume that John must be very unhappy that you beat him at announcing the big news.
:):):)
Adrian
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From: James Wentworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:01:00 -0800
To: U.S. Metric Association
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, James R. Frysinger wrote:
... Metrologia does not make this available online.
Articles in Metrologia are now available in complete detail on the Web.
Each table of contents can be received automatically by e-mail for persons
who choose to subscribe. Articles of interest
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Bill Potts wrote:
Pas du tout. En anglais, on peut aussi dire market ou marketplace pour
l'endroit où on fait des achats
Bill (deprecator of grammar by OZ),
In both French and English, sentences end in periods.
Gene G
On Sun, 2002 Jul 14, Pat Naughtin asked:
Does anyone know the exact (month and day) date when John Quincy Adams
submitted his measurement report to Congress. I know that this was done in
1821 (it was commissioned in 1817) but I can't find the exact dates.
Pat,
In 1821 on February 22, JQA
Gene,
The details on the article, that you need to locate it in Metrologia,
are in my review article in Metric Today (last issue, I believe).
Jim
Gene Mechtly wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, James R. Frysinger wrote:
... Metrologia does not make this available online.
Articles in
yes, it feels higher!
I've been to NYC and humidity is always high in summer, it was like hell!
please write 41,7 °C not 41,7 C
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From: Jim Elwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:27 PM
Subject: [USMA:21092]
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Pat Naughtin asked:
... how much energy do I need to flow from an electric hotplate
to maintain a slow simmer?
Pat,
When you specify flow and maintain you ask for power in a state of
equilibrium (when input and output are continuous and at equal rates of
energy flow).
I
At 06:22 PM 15 July 2002 +0200, Wizard of OS wrote:
please write 41,7 °C not 41,7 C
My understanding is that special symbols do not always show up properly on
all computer systems, so I avoid them if possible.
However, by way of checking this, does 41.7 ºC show up properly?
How about 41.7 °C?
See story by following this link:
http://www.epolitix.com/default.asp?/bos/epxnews/238fc1c7798e1040a0f463339140c66d702f.htm
That's news to me. The two largest States in the nation are still 100% metric, and to
my knowledge, have no intention of switching back (California and NY).
Howard Ressel
Metric Manager, NYSDOT Region 4
Bob Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/12/02 08:11PM
I was wondering about the status of metrics
yes, it does!
- Original Message -
From: Jim Elwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:35 PM
Subject: [USMA:21105] Re: Humidity baseline
At 06:22 PM 15 July 2002 +0200, Wizard of OS wrote:
please write 41,7 °C not 41,7 C
My
In announcement below that I posted last Friday, I've added a few words to clarify the
change in name of NIST's Metric Program office to the Laws and Metric Group at NIST:
Announcement from USMA:
It is a pleasure to announce that Kenneth Butcher has been selected for the position
of Group
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Joseph B. Reid wrote:
...
The resolution that Gene refers to goes on to say
*Watt* (unit of power) -- The watt is the power which in one second gives
rise to energy of one joule.
From that statement I deduce that the joule is a watt.second, which is
equivalent to a
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Joseph B. Reid wrote:
If I understand Gene aright, he would ask that automobile speedometers be
graduated in metres per second rather than km/h.
Joe,
For electronic (liquid crystal) speedometer displays, I would prefer m/s as
the default option, km/h as a secondary
At 14:29 +0100 15/07/2002, Tom Wade VMS Systems wrote:
The equivalent speed limit in France is 130 km/h and in Germany anything you
can do without losing control.
Only a few stretches of German highways, of low traffic, have no
speed limit. In congested areas, speed is limited at 120 km/h, 100
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Bill Potts wrote:
Strangely enough, when French sentences end in ? or !, there's a space
before the punctuation. It can screw up line wrap no end in a word
processor.
Bill and Louis,
Yes, I notice that Louis includes the space consistently, but I have never
observed
You can add smaller states New Hampshire and Maine to the SI list.
Howard Ressel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's news to me. The two largest States in the nation are still 100% metric, and to my knowledge, have no intention of switching back (California and NY).Howard ResselMetric Manager,
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:54:58 -0700, you wrote:
See story by following this link:
http://www.epolitix.com/default.asp?/bos/epxnews/238fc1c7798e1040a0f463339140c66d702f.htm
For a laugh, read the BBC Online story at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_2129000/2129528.stm
I am now the proud owner of a Citroen Picasso. For those unfamiliar
with it, there is a totally digital dash. This was one of the
attractions for me, as Citroen had previously told me that it could
easily be set to metric. And so it can. There is a simple menu
structure, that allows setting of
And of course if you go to the Citroen site www.citroen.com it is all metric
including the English version.
Baron Carter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 15 July, 2002 14:59
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:21116] New 'metric'
They did make some errors though:
HDi 90 bhp, HDi 110 bhp and HDi 136 bhp
Of course they did not use these units in the French version.
Baron Carter
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From: Carter, Baron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 15 July, 2002 15:12
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject:
At 13:06 -0500 15/07/2002, Gene Mechtly wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Bill Potts wrote:
Strangely enough, when French sentences end in ? or !, there's a space
before the punctuation. It can screw up line wrap no end in a word
processor.
Bill and Louis,
Yes, I notice that Louis includes the
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:18:53 -0500, you wrote:
They did make some errors though:
HDi 90 bhp, HDi 110 bhp and HDi 136 bhp
Of course they did not use these units in the French version.
Unfortunately, the HP is still widely used, even in French car ads.
I was glad to see the manual gives tyre
2002-07-15
The Euro actually peaked about 1.008 ?/$. At the close of Wall Street
today, the rate was closer to 1.003
John
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From: James Wentworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 2002-07-15 10:01
Subject: [USMA:21095] 1
2002-07-15
Not really! I figured big news like this would be reported by someone else.
John
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From: Metric US [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 2002-07-15 11:30
Subject: [USMA:21098] Re: 1 Euro = 1
2002-07-15
Well, if he continues to defy the law as he says he will do, he should end
up in jail. And once there if some big brut decides to have him as his
wife, he will wish he never heard of pounds and ounces. The metric martyrs
fund can use their remaining funds to buy him some lubricating
Dear Carl,
What you say sounds plausible, but I think you are confusing the convenience
of using your old mindset and 'Rules of thumb' with a rational choice of
coherent units. Let me try to explain this with examples.
You say: 'If I use a 100-watt light bulb for 10 hours, it uses 1 kWh of
Dear Carlton and All,
I am writing to support the views you state here. It is my experience, in
Australia, that a conversion can almost always be done smoothly and quickly
if you follow some basic rules.
1 Decide on the goal. In this case you decided that 'We will all use
degrees Celsius for
In a message dated 2002-07-15 14:11:47 Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Bill Potts wrote:
Strangely enough, when French sentences end in ? or !, there's a space
before the punctuation. It can screw up line wrap no end in a word
processor.
Bill and Louis,
Hi Chris
Congrats on your new Citroen car.
Toyota Prius is the first car to put a big digital
speedometer in the middle of the dashboard area.
Its more precise.
Madan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [USMA:21116] New
Dear Marcus, Carl and All,
I would like to make a few remarks about the present situation of time
measurements in SI.
The SI unit of the quantity, time, is the second, which is defined as:
'The second is the duration of 9 192 631 770 periods of the radiation
corresponding to the transition
Jim Elwell in USMA
At 06:22 PM 15 July 2002 +0200, Wizard of OS wrote:
please write 41,7 °C not 41,7 C
My understanding is that special symbols do not always show up properly on
all computer systems, so I avoid them if possible.
However, by way of checking this, does 41.7 ºC show up properly?
Gene Mechtly wrote in USMA 21039:
on page 121 of the BIPM Brochure, we find that the joule is
*defined* as the newton meter, not as the watt second, as you imply.
The watt second, an equivalent but less fundamental form of the joule,
and the watt hour, not even a coherent SI form, are not even
No, it doesn't on my computer, Jim. The first example you gave used the
masculine ordinate. The second used the raised circle symbolizing
degree.
Jim
Wizard of OS wrote:
yes, it does!
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From: Jim Elwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL
Louis JOURDAN wrote:
Of course the space before the punctuation (such as xx-!) runs the
risk of rejecting the ! at the beginning of the next line, therefore
you have to use a espace non sécable (I don't know the English
word). On my Mac under Word you get that with shift-control-space
On Sunday, 2002 July 14 2300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2002-07-13 10:09:42 Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We shouldn't be upset at states that are reverting, as they are up
against a lot of resistance. We should be angry at those who didn't plan
this
2002-07-15
Just for clarification, I'm only responsible for the first paragraph you
reprinted here. The sentence about the idiot in congress is someone else's
comment.
John
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From: James Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
2002-07-15
The Euro is climbing again. It is approaching 1.01 $
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=EURUSD%3dXd=1b
I didn't watch the news tonight, but my cousin told me the crashing
stockmarket was the main topic. It's 1929 all over again.
John
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From: Metric US
Thanks, Gene.
I was kind of hoping that it might have been in October, which the USMA
suggests for celebrating 'Metric Month'. I thought it could have some
educational effect in schools if John Quincy Adams the first citizen of
the USA to formally suggest the adoption of the metric system
Dear Gene, Jim, and All,
You might be interested in this letter.
Title: A reply to Definitions of the units radian, neper, bel and decibel
by I. M. Mills et al.
Author(s): W. H. Emerson
Source: Metrologia Volume: 39 Page: p105 -- p109
Publisher: Bureau International des Poids et Mesures
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:36:49 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
Hi Chris
Congrats on your new Citroen car.
Toyota Prius is the first car to put a big digital
speedometer in the middle of the dashboard area.
Its more precise.
Madan
Thanks, Madan. I got the brochure on the Yaris. The new Citroen C3
also
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