Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Thanks for the frank discussion. I read the stream, and it reveals some things about the Vala project that have been opaque. The actual decision about Vala's future pales in comparison to the path that got us here. One of the reasons I chose Vala was it has the appearance of support from

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Hey Al, > Hmm, that seems a little unfair. You submitted the patch on the 08 Aug 2016 > and it was reviewed on the 10 Aug 2016. Unfortunately your first version of > the patch included a bug that the review identified. Well, I fixed that bug within a day. Then it took another 12 days for Jürg

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

> - Original Message - > From: jezra <je...@jezra.net> > Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2016, 17:41 > Subject: Re: [Vala] The future of Vala > For me as a vala user, the biggest frustration I have, and the > number 1 reason I would NOT consider vala for a futu

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

ojects on the $9 CHIP computer and I couldn't be more pleased with the ease. For me as a vala user, the biggest frustration I have, and the number 1 reason I would NOT consider vala for a future programming project is the cumbersome documentation. For the future of vala, having usable document

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

08.09.2016, 20:33, "Timm Bäder" : > Hey, > > this is probably just a mail for Jürg and maybe Luca, but if you have a > relevant opinion on the matter, that might be a fine reply as well. > > So, for quite a while the Vala project has seen very little activity. > The three people

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

hy FSO > has been stalling is that I'm unsure > > about whether Vala is going anywhere towards a stable (with reasonably > sane criteria of stableness) 1.0. > > I’m also the creator of numerous bug entries where Vala generates > invalid C code and the Vala programmer >

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

merous bug entries where Vala generates invalid C > code and the Vala programmer > is scared with an incomprehensible gcc error message. As far as I can see > many of those are still open for a > bunch of years now – which makes me feel somewhat pessimistic about the > future of Vala. We

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

nch of years now – which makes me feel somewhat pessimistic about the future of Vala. I’d welcome advise from the father of Vala, Joerg (or anyone other with solid knowledge of the core), to give us some direction. Would a redesign / rewrite be necessary to move forward to an 1.0 or would

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

; An: vala-list@gnome.org > Betreff: Re: [Vala] The future of Vala > > Am 2016-09-13 um 02:10 schrieb Michael Gratton: > > It really sounds like Vala needs some maintainers. > > I think there are some Vala USERS out there, which are able and willing > to help with some minor and

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Am 2016-09-13 um 02:10 schrieb Michael Gratton: > It really sounds like Vala needs some maintainers. I think there are some Vala USERS out there, which are able and willing to help with some minor and/or simple tasks and don't know how. So the "heavy weights" like Jürg, Luca, Evan and the like

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 3:34 AM, Timm Bäder wrote: So... what's the deal here? Is there any way forward one could look into? Is it wip/transform? IIRC there was some dbus stuff broken here? Are there any TODO items for cleaning up the compiler? Should we just tell people to not

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 2:19 AM, oyster wrote: some killer apps may be a good AD. Like these? ;) -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

some killer apps may be a good AD. 2016-09-12 0:51 GMT+08:00 Evan Nemerson : > On Sun, 2016-09-11 at 17:30 +0200, Timm Bäder wrote: >> On 10.09, Evan Nemerson wrote: >> > >> > This is something I've been thinking about lately, too. We >> > currently rely on Jürg and Luca's

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

- Original Message - > From: Timm Bäder <m...@baedert.org> > Sent: Sunday, 11 September 2016, 17:43 > Subject: Re: [Vala] The future of Vala > On 11.09, Al Thomas wrote: >> Anyone with GNOME commit access can add to the Vala repository. >> So for these

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On Sun, 2016-09-11 at 17:30 +0200, Timm Bäder wrote: > On 10.09, Evan Nemerson wrote: > > > > This is something I've been thinking about lately, too.  We > > currently rely on Jürg and Luca's expertise pretty heavily for > > development and patch review, and since they are both busy with > >

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On 11.09, Al Thomas wrote: > > Basically, I'm not saying that Jürg or Luca need to > > even work on valac, but a patch review now and then would already help > > a lot. And some of those patches are really quite simple and obviously > > correct, but no review except theirs has any weight. > > >

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

- Original Message - > From: Timm Bäder <m...@baedert.org> > Sent: Sunday, 11 September 2016, 16:30 > Subject: Re: [Vala] The future of Vala > Basically, I'm not saying that Jürg or Luca need to > even work on valac, but a patch review now and then would already h

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

+1 -- * EOF * 2016-09-10 22:44 GMT+02:00 Evan Nemerson : > This is something I've been thinking about lately, too. We currently > rely on Jürg and Luca's expertise pretty heavily for development and > patch review, and since they are both busy with other stuff Vala >

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On 10.09, Evan Nemerson wrote: > This is something I've been thinking about lately, too.  We currently > rely on Jürg and Luca's expertise pretty heavily for development and > patch review, and since they are both busy with other stuff Vala > development has slowed down quite a bit. > > Assuming

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Le 2016-09-10 23:58, Evan Nemerson a écrit : On Sat, 2016-09-10 at 21:22 +, Ben Iofel wrote: Sounds awesome. Even if we don't move to github, we should still allow people to submit pull requests on the mirror (https://github.com/gnome/vala) I completely disagree.  There should be one

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

- Original Message - > From: Evan Nemerson <e...@coeus-group.com> > Sent: Saturday, 10 September 2016, 21:44 > Subject: Re: [Vala] The future of Vala > Chris Daley has been working on moving a version of Valadate into the > Vala tree (see <https://github.com/ch

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On Sat, 2016-09-10 at 21:22 +, Ben Iofel wrote: > Sounds awesome. Even if we don't move to github, we should still > allow > people to submit pull requests on the mirror > (https://github.com/gnome/vala) I completely disagree.  There should be one place to somehow request a change in the

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

This is something I've been thinking about lately, too.  We currently rely on Jürg and Luca's expertise pretty heavily for development and patch review, and since they are both busy with other stuff Vala development has slowed down quite a bit. Assuming we can't organize financing to pay Jürg

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

I 'm spending all my applications python Vala , I would like to know the current state of Vala . Maybe I can contribute in some way to its continuity. 2016-09-09 18:50 GMT-03:00 rastersoft : > Hi: > > I was hoping to see at least one answer to this, but now I'm really >

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On Fri, 2016-09-09 at 23:50 +0200, rastersoft wrote: > I was hoping to see at least one answer to this, but now I'm really > scared. I really love Vala, so the perspective of missing it is > really horrible :( Ditto. I've been poking at Vala - it seems like a really great idea, and it worked

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

- Original Message - > From: rastersoft <ras...@rastersoft.com> > Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016, 22:50 > Subject: Re: [Vala] The future of Vala > I was hoping to see at least one answer to this, but now I'm really > scared. I really love Vala, so the perspective of

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Hi: I was hoping to see at least one answer to this, but now I'm really scared. I really love Vala, so the possibility of missing it is really horrible :( El 08/09/16 a las 19:34, Timm Bäder escribió: > Hey, > > this is probably just a mail for Jürg and maybe Luca, but if you have a > relevant

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Hi: I was hoping to see at least one answer to this, but now I'm really scared. I really love Vala, so the perspective of missing it is really horrible :( El 08/09/16 a las 19:34, Timm Bäder escribió: > Hey, > > this is probably just a mail for Jürg and maybe Luca, but if you have a > relevant

[Vala] The future of Vala

Hey, this is probably just a mail for Jürg and maybe Luca, but if you have a relevant opinion on the matter, that might be a fine reply as well. So, for quite a while the Vala project has seen very little activity. The three people most involved (Jürg, Luca and Flo) are barely on IRC and/or