On Aug 13, 2007, at 8:18 PM, John Winterflood wrote:
Horace wrote:
snip
Suppose the DC power supply, a battery, carries a coulomb of
excess positive charge, or a coulomb of excess negative charge?
Charge can always be detected by the field that is around it -
provided you can get around
On Aug 13, 2007, at 8:18 PM, John Winterflood wrote:
[snip good stuff]
I should have mentioned, in the likely case you haven't followed the
lengthy discussion, that the issue is about wording in and designs in:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/DeflationFusion.pdf
Horace Heffner
Jones Beene wrote:
Anybody remember the Apple Pippin ? ...a so-called portable computer
from 1989.
After the dead batteries are revived (desulfurization) then the real
test would be to see if they can consistently delivery more energy to
a load than is put into charging them. This would be
On 13/8/2007 11:18 PM, John Winterflood wrote:
Horace wrote:
snip
Suppose the DC power supply, a battery, carries a coulomb of excess
positive charge, or a coulomb of excess negative charge?
Charge can always be detected by the field that is around it - provided
you can get around it
- Original Message -
From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Only potential differences matter
...
Michel has said on an abstract basis that only relative potential
between plates matters with
On 8/13/07, Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 13, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
Interesting exchanges.
If a pair of wires are 3 x 10^10 cm long; and, a potential is applied
to the ends of the wires with a load resistor on the other end, I have
two simple
Howdy Vorts,
Just the ticket, a battery made of paper and nanotubes.
Hmm! Now! If the US treasury used this paper to print dollar denominations
of currency.. what would we have ?
Well, since almost all US paper money quickly becomes saturated with cocaine,
we may get an unexpected charge..
leaking pen wrote:
On a related topic, does anyone have a good link to information on the
compressability of water?
data on compressibility and other physical properties:
http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/data.html
See:
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
This is a follow-on comment to a previous thread: in which the various
versions of a technology for fuel reforming and exhaust cleanup which
have been further developed mostly in Europe (France), were discussed.
These derive from what was originally a device invented by Paul Pantone,
in Utah.
There is a fitting cartoon on page 11 which pretty much encapsulates
what the 9/11 commission did (or didn't do) but it is too bad that SJ is
conflating the two issues in one document.
I suppose that he expects that if he can convince an audience of one of
them, they will automatically go for
From Jed Rothwell
See:
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
On page 81 near the very end of the report, in the Conclusion section
there was one sentence that caught my eye.
Many of us sense a higher Source guiding our research and peace efforts.
The word
On 14/8/2007 10:19 AM, OrionWorks wrote:
From Jed Rothwell
See:
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
On page 81 near the very end of the report, in the Conclusion section
there was one sentence that caught my eye.
Many of us sense a higher Source
I understood what you meant.
Harry
On 13/8/2007 10:21 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
I seldom write anything right the first time through, despite proof
reading. Sigh.
I wrote: But, as you point out, this is not true if you get well
away from that center line (and you are well out in space
As the experts predicted, the cost of non-ethanol biofuels is going down
rapidly - and already this summer, 2007, is as low as ethanol from corn
and less than gasoline in many locations. And that is without subsidies.
In a perfect world, this would spell the early demise for ethanol, and
the
On 14/8/2007 6:55 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
this
controversy will be solved, at last :-)
Horace just wants to call a faraday cage an 'absolute potential'.
However, you find it very difficult to tolerate the idiosyncratic or
amateurish use of terminology.
Conflict resolved.
Harry
Steve, The Junkman, Milloy, www.junkscience.com was interviewed on
Northern Alliance Radio this weekend. Steve is offering $100,000 to
anyone who can prove that anthropogenic global warming is real, and that
it's deleterious consequences outweigh the benefits. Since it's
impossible to prove
On Aug 14, 2007, at 5:52 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
See:
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
The tables of values of Ue in the above appear to be screening
potentials observed in different metals.
He footnotes S.E. Jones, E.P. Palmer, J.B. Czirr, D.L.
I've been away from Vortex, completely, not even lurking, for the last
few months. And I come back to find that, as the first message that
catches my eye, Jed has posted, with _no_ comment, a paper by Steven
Jones which starts out by asserting that the WTC collapse can't be
explained by the
On 13/8/2007 9:42 PM, thomas malloy wrote:
Terry Blanton wrote:
For the first time, I honestly think that the end *IS* near. Did we
finally win?
http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/13/autos/electric_car/index.htm?cnn=yes
There are actually a plethora of BEVs about to enter the market. Time
thomas malloy wrote:
Steve is offering $100,000 to anyone who can prove that
anthropogenic global warming is real . . .
People who set this kind of challenge can never persuaded. I learned
a long time ago with cold fusion that if you show them 10
replications, they will demand 100, and if
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
I've been away from Vortex, completely, not even lurking . . .
Welcome back!
And I come back to find that, as the first message that catches my
eye, Jed has posted, with _no_ comment, a paper by Steven Jones . . .
Everyone here knows what I think of Jones. I
From Jones Beene
...
Such biofuels have been touted as the successor to grain ethanol, but
until now the technology has been considered too expensive. Iowa State
University researchers determined production costs are now similar for
grain ethanol and second generation biofuels.
Second
We'll probably be cookin' with gas for a while.
Terry
On 8/14/07, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 13/8/2007 9:42 PM, thomas malloy wrote:
Terry Blanton wrote:
For the first time, I honestly think that the end *IS* near. Did we
finally win?
Ole Machavelli studied the Italian style of politics way back when. He wrote
a handbook on winning political strategies.
This handbook has been the textbook on politics ever since.
Not only do politicians study the tricks of the trade revealed in the book..
but.. magicians also use the tricks..
OrionWorks wrote:
That's rather optimistic of you, Jones!
Out of curiosity, just how massive is this new production of biofuel
products predicted to be within the next few months?
SRI Consulting (SRIC) does a periodic Biofuel Report for well-heeled
clientèle. They are a year ahead of
On Aug 14, 2007, at 11:08 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
On 14/8/2007 6:55 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
this
controversy will be solved, at last :-)
Horace just wants to call a faraday cage an 'absolute potential'.
That is the inside of a *grounded* Faraday cage. The absolute part
of that
On Aug 14, 2007, at 11:05 AM, OrionWorks wrote:
However, what actually tends to get legislated up on
capital hill would suggest different motivations are on the minds of
our legislators.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
There is a chance some change may occur:
Dufour, J., et al., Experimental observation of nuclear reactions in
palladium and uranium -- possible explanation by hydrex mode. Fusion
Technol., 2001. 40: p. 91.
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/DufourJexperiment.pdf
- Jed
Jones Beene wrote:
We will probably need to tax foreign crude oil at some point, if they
drop the price [...]
In your dreams. Dropping oil prices won't make a significant petroleum
tax any more palatable in the future than it's been in the past. No
compensatory tax was put on it last time
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
But would that not be **good** news?
Yup
if they can
think of a way to /profit/ from the new technology, then they may become
part of the solution (for once) rather than remaining a completely
intractable part of the problem.
The only injustice is that the
A follow-up question to Jones,
...
Algoil makes the most sense in the near-term for an
operating natural gas power plant, which wants to use
waste heat and CO2, and has available flat acreage; lots
of cash, and will be burning the biofuel production on
site as a replacement for some of the
OrionWorks wrote:
What am I missing here.
One must learn to walk before running?
i might also add that cane is a more effective source of sugar for
ethanol, and that a lot of the land owned by oil companies, used in
part for drilling, refinieries, ect, but large amounts of empty land
as well, is in the equator area, the best place to cheaply grow said
cane sugar. and ethanol
Looking out the window of the Dime Box saloon at a cane field with sorghum
cane stalks 20 feet high makes ya thing you're seeing things.
No problem, the guys over at AM are always thinking up jokes to play ...
they were looking at a corn stalk awhile back and thunk, now why can't we
make a
On Aug 14, 2007, at 12:54 PM, OrionWorks wrote:
But as someone recently reminded me - all of these near-term solutions
cited above can not be called carbon neutral, but rather carbon
delayers. CO2 derived from the burning of these fossil fuels will
eventually be released into the atmosphere
I can't follow your pace Horace, let's stick to the first and second versions
of fig. 1 we were discussing shall we, at least until the controversy is
solved. The issue is general anyway, either only potential differences matter,
whatever the case at hand, or not.
(*) I first mentioned
...at least until 2012 anyway (had to get the thread right with the subject
line).
- Rick
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:20 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The End is Near
We'll probably be cookin' with gas
The Hydrex Hypothesis of Dufour -
It has been shown by a quantum electrodynamics calculation (Spence,
below) that resonances of long lifetime (seconds), nuclear dimensions
(femtometres), and low energy of formation (electron volts) could exist.
This concept seems to look like the “shrunken
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