Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion

2011-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
Mauro wrote:  I was just trying to emphasize, perhaps not a very good or clear way, that there are no relative velocities of the two clocks involved.    What matters is that when the clocks are together and are both at rest in the same frame they are both ticking at the same rate. The

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion

2011-04-24 Thread David Jonsson
I have been thinking a lot on how to differentiate between rotational motion where the curvature or rotation radius is very high and translational motion. In the case when gravity balances centrifugal acceleration it becomes hard. There are methods involving thermal motion. I have mentioned these

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion

2011-04-24 Thread Craig Haynie
where their respective clock hands happen to pointing after they have reached the separation distance and A yells out to B . When B hears A he will know he has to turn back his clock the amount of time it took A's voice to reach him (the separation distance divided by the speed of sound).

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion

2011-04-24 Thread francis
A single laser source with dual outputs as suggested in the wiki snip below would be better -one from either side of the lasers resonant cavity ---[]--- used to form a counter propagating ring will produce a phase shift in fringe pattern when rotated [ wiki snip.] where the Sagnac

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion

2011-04-24 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 04/23/2011 06:13 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: On 04/23/2011 06:57 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Perhaps you have overlooked a key point. How do you propose to synchronize clocks which are spatially separated? That's not a trivial question. ? You can synchronize them together, and

[Vo]:Radio Interview with Christos Stremmenos [Italian]

2011-04-24 Thread Michele Comitini
Christos Stremmenos talks about work done with Focardi on Ni-H. http://ow.ly/4FS1H *very interesting* mic

Re: [Vo]:Radio Interview with Christos Stremmenos [Italian]

2011-04-24 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-04-24 14:39, Michele Comitini wrote: Christos Stremmenos talks about work done with Focardi on Ni-H. http://ow.ly/4FS1H *very interesting* On Passerini's 22passi blog people are organizing a group work to transcribe that interview in italian. A human translation in English will

[Vo]:Spring constant in plasma oscillations

2011-04-24 Thread David Jonsson
This might be an easy question but it is not on my mind right now. I would like to determine the trajectory of the electrons in plasma oscillations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_oscillation I need this in order to find out how big an eventual magnetic field from in can be in the case of

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion

2011-04-24 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 04/23/2011 10:12 PM, jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au wrote: On 4/24/2011 6:13 AM, Mauro Lacy wrote: On 04/23/2011 06:57 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Perhaps you have overlooked a key point. How do you propose to synchronize clocks which are spatially separated? That's not a trivial

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion

2011-04-24 Thread Michele Comitini
Can quantum entanglement be used for syncronizing? 2011/4/24 Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar: On 04/23/2011 10:12 PM, jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au wrote: On 4/24/2011 6:13 AM, Mauro Lacy wrote: On 04/23/2011 06:57 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Perhaps you have overlooked a key point. How do

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion

2011-04-24 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 04/24/2011 11:06 AM, Michele Comitini wrote: Can quantum entanglement be used for syncronizing? That was what I was thinking. It sounds feasible. A non-local clock can be devised, based on the properties of quantum entanglement: A remote entangled particle will instantaneously inform

Re: [Vo]:Spring constant in plasma oscillations

2011-04-24 Thread David Jonsson
I have really found a bad thing. On the link below they talk about effective mass whewre they model the mass of the electron as a tensor instead of calculating with the forces from surrounding atoms. It looks real bad. I was planning on using the well known spring formula omega^2 = k/m and now m

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion

2011-04-24 Thread francis
Michele, Great Question! I have often considered that entangled particles might be spatially pivoting from a locked time co-ordinate - inherently synchronized but it never occurred to me to use it for this purpose. Regards Fran

[Vo]:Beryllium Without Stars

2011-04-24 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-primordial-beryllium-reveal-insights-big.html Primordial beryllium could reveal insights into the Big Bang April 21, 2011 by Lisa Zyga Scientists have proposed a method in which beryllium could have been produced in the first few minutes of the Universe.

[Vo]:Roller Coaster to the Stars

2011-04-24 Thread Terry Blanton
A real eticket ride. Hmmm, I wonder how many people remember the 'E' ticket? http://dvice.com/archives/2011/04/the-euthanasia.php The Euthanasia Coaster is designed to be fun, briefly Many of the best roller coasters are billed as death-defying, but Royal College of Art PhD student Julijonas

RE: [Vo]:Beryllium Without Stars

2011-04-24 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Something similar in a Rossi Reaction? In what way? Did beryllium turn up in an analysis?

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion

2011-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 7:07:08 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion where their respective clock hands happen to pointing after they have reached the separation distance and

[Vo]:Detecting absolute motion, quantum reloaded

2011-04-24 Thread Mauro Lacy
I think we nailed it down? Here then goes the quantum reloaded version of the same experiment. An experiment devised to detect absolute motion. The experiment is very simple in theory, although it can be relatively complex to realize it in practice: To measure the time a ray of light takes

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion, quantum reloaded

2011-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
If experiment does detect a difference in the arrival times won't the relativits just say it results from spatial contraction? Harry - Original Message From: Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 1:07:34 PM Subject: [Vo]:Detecting absolute

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion, quantum reloaded

2011-04-24 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 04/24/2011 02:33 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: If experiment does detect a difference in the arrival times won't the relativits just say it results from spatial contraction? Maybe, but, who cares. The experiment is not trying to refute relativity theory, but to detect absolute motion. If the

Re: [Vo]:Beryllium Without Stars

2011-04-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Something similar in a Rossi Reaction? In what way? Did beryllium turn up in an analysis? No. Bad humor on the ongoing speculation.

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion, quantum reloaded

2011-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 1:56:43 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion, quantum reloaded On 04/24/2011 02:33 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: If experiment does detect a difference in the arrival

Re: [Vo]:Spring constant in plasma oscillations

2011-04-24 Thread Charles Hope
I didn't see tensors mentioned in the Wikipedia page. Tensors of what degree? Wouldn't you be dealing with a distribution of them anyway? Sent from my iPhone. On Apr 24, 2011, at 10:28, David Jonsson davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com wrote: I have really found a bad thing. On the link below

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion, quantum reloaded

2011-04-24 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 04/24/2011 03:56 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: - Original Message From: Mauro Lacyma...@lacy.com.ar To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 1:56:43 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion, quantum reloaded On 04/24/2011 02:33 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: If

[Vo]:Clock synchronisation is a red herring

2011-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
It occured to me that a one way light speed experiment performed under the assumption that absolute motion is correct does not need to worry whether clock sychronisation is affected by motion.   The experiment should proceed on the assumption that it is sufficient to synchronize two clocks at

Re: [Vo]:Spring constant in plasma oscillations

2011-04-24 Thread David Jonsson
If you search on effective mass you will find a tensor. David On Apr 24, 2011 9:02 PM, Charles Hope lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see tensors mentioned in the Wikipedia page. Tensors of what degree? Wouldn't you be dealing with a distribution of them anyway? Sent from my

Re: [Vo]:Clock synchronisation is a red herring

2011-04-24 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 04/24/2011 04:58 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: It occured to me that a one way light speed experiment performed under the assumption that absolute motion is correct does not need to worry whether clock sychronisation is affected by motion. The experiment should proceed on the assumption that it

Re: [Vo]:Clock synchronisation is a red herring

2011-04-24 Thread Michele Comitini
Why not use 2 light beams at different wave lenghts? Interference at both ends should give the answer. kinda MM experiment but only one way. 2011/4/24 Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar: On 04/24/2011 04:58 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: It occured to me that a one way light speed experiment performed

[Vo]:Coastzone Radio / James Martinez

2011-04-24 Thread Alan Fletcher
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewWorldOrderWhistleBlowers2/message/48636 Cold Fusion: Filling in for George Noory, host George Knapp welcomed media ecologist James Martinez for a discussion on cold fusion in the first half of the show. Cold fusion is a type of purported low energy nuclear

RE: [Vo]:Coastzone Radio / James Martinez

2011-04-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Brief Interview with Rossi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POZrKGpipmo April 21, 2011. In English. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Clock synchronisation is a red herring

2011-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 4:24:41 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Clock synchronisation is a red herring On 04/24/2011 04:58 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: It occured to me that a one way light speed experiment

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion

2011-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 10:17:42 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion On 04/24/2011 11:06 AM, Michele Comitini wrote: Can quantum entanglement be used for syncronizing?     That was