Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi's 1MW demo supposed to output steam, or just hot water under 100 C?

2011-10-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: When I queried DGT about comparing their products using glycol to AR's use of diathermic oil, I got this response: We do not wish to comment any further the differences between products and any lab prototype, which are

RE: [Vo]:S-C currents not DC?

2011-10-20 Thread Higgins Bob-CBH003
I have seen measurements of RF cavity resonators made out of both type I and type II superconductors. Of course, the cavities made with type 1 were better, but none were infinite Q as you might initially suspect if you believed the resistance was zero above DC. In fact, in the low GHz range,

Re: [Vo]:Making Sense of ECAT Water Pump Flow Rate

2011-10-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson wrote: An additional measurement of water consumed from the boiling point to the test completion showed a usage of 11.08 kilograms per hour (3.0 grams per second).None of the three measurements came close to the expected value based upon the rate setting.. . . This pump

Re: [Vo]:Making Sense of ECAT Water Pump Flow Rate

2011-10-20 Thread David Roberson
The pump flow rate has been a thorn in my side for some time now. I agree that the September pump flow measurements by Mats Lewan were excellent. Too bad they were not repeated in October testing. I have had a chance to reconsider my decision to use a higher expected rate for the Excel

Re: [Vo]:Making Sense of ECAT Water Pump Flow Rate

2011-10-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson wrote: Further support for a lower net flow rate during the October 6 testing is given by the measurement performed by Mats near the end of the run. He very carefully measured a rate of .9 grams per second being careful not to disturb the plumbing. This value coupled with the

Re: [Vo]:Steam engines

2011-10-20 Thread Axil Axil
In terms of micro turbines, a good fit for the Rossi reactor would be the supercritical carbon dioxide (S-CO2) Brayton-cycle micro turbines. The supercritical CO2 Brayton cycle provides the same efficiency as helium Brayton systems but at a considerably lower temperature (250-300 C). The S-CO2

Re: [Vo]:Making Sense of ECAT Water Pump Flow Rate

2011-10-20 Thread David Roberson
Your comment is appropriate Jed. I am still attempting to reconcile the flow rate and thermocouple reading so that they make some logical sense to me. I plan to take a second look at the simulation where the output power is forced to match the measured rate seen by Mats by some form of

[Vo]:diathermic oil for heat transfer

2011-10-20 Thread Harry Veeder
Sorry if this was already mentioned, but Rossi said on his blog this week that he might use a diathermic oil for heat tranfer in later versions of the eCat. I cite this as an example: http://www.paratherm.com/InfoServices/index.asp?vendorid=6010gclid=CIWOoM_R96sCFULrKgodmX3PuA Harry

Re: [Vo]:S-C currents not DC?

2011-10-20 Thread Harry Veeder
The AC might be creating some heat without the current dissipating. Such a violation of theory would not be apparent when so much effort and energy is used to keep the SC below the critical temperature. Harry On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:diathermic oil for heat transfer

2011-10-20 Thread Terry Blanton
sigh I must be on everyone's filter list. T On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry if this was already mentioned, but Rossi said on his blog this week that he might use a diathermic oil for heat tranfer in later versions of the eCat. I cite this as

[Vo]:Basic stress analysis of reactor box from Talk.polywell

2011-10-20 Thread Robert Lynn
sparkyy0007 over at talk polywell did a basic FE analysis of the reactor box, assuming 1/8th inch steel plate and 1bar internal pressure. http://www.talk-polywell.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3200postdays=0postorder=ascstart=1200 But the attached picuture is a nice illustration of why engineers don't

Re: [Vo]:diathermic oil for heat transfer

2011-10-20 Thread Man on Bridges
Hi Terry, Not really, keep up the good work and valuable sometimes humorous comments you are providing. Kind regards, MoB On 20-10-2011 19:49, Terry Blanton wrote: sigh I must be on everyone's filter list. T On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Harry Veederhveeder...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Making Sense of ECAT Water Pump Flow Rate

2011-10-20 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:34 PM 10/19/2011, David Roberson wrote: I have been trying to understand the unusual behavior of the ECAT water input pump. It may be possible to replace the peristaltic tube and thus get a result which exceeds the maximum for a standard tube.

Re: [Vo]:Basic stress analysis of reactor box from Talk.polywell

2011-10-20 Thread Robert Lynn
oops pic didn't attach, try again On 20 October 2011 19:05, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.comwrote: sparkyy0007 over at talk polywell did a basic FE analysis of the reactor box, assuming 1/8th inch steel plate and 1bar internal pressure.

Re: [Vo]:Basic stress analysis of reactor box from Talk.polywell

2011-10-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn wrote: sparkyy0007 over at talk polywell did a basic FE analysis of the reactor box, assuming 1/8th inch steel plate and 1bar internal pressure. http://www.talk-polywell.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3200postdays=0postorder=ascstart=1200

Re: [Vo]:diathermic oil for heat transfer

2011-10-20 Thread Harry Veeder
lately my brain has been crashing, so I don't read all the messages. Harry On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: sigh I must be on everyone's filter list. T On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry if this was

Re: [Vo]:diathermic oil for heat transfer

2011-10-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: lately my brain has been crashing, so I don't  read all the messages. At least you have one. ;-) T

Re: [Vo]:diathermic oil for heat transfer

2011-10-20 Thread Michele Comitini
looking at heat transfer fluids. Glycole (http://goo.gl/haL10) Note! The specific heat capacity of ethylene glycol based water solutions are less than the specific heat capacity of clean water. For a heat transfer system with ethylene glycol the circulated volume must be increased compared to a

Re: [Vo]:Steam engines

2011-10-20 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:47:32 -0400: Hi, [snip] As I said, efficiency does not matter, but longevity and the lifetime cost of the equipment does matter. See chapter 14 of my book. Efficiency does matter for two reasons. 1) Nickel availability. 2) Global

Re: [Vo]:Steam engines

2011-10-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Efficiency does matter for two reasons. 1) Nickel availability. 2) Global warming. Nope. 1. Even at very low efficiency this would only require a tiny fraction of the available nickel in the world. That is assuming it does not rapidly transmit the nickel into

[Vo]:Freeing energy from the grid (ted.com)

2011-10-20 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Rather interesting TED-talk on free energy. And there is no need for new and exotic physics, because free electric energy is already surrounding us. We need to just gather it using nanomaterials. Freeing energy from the grid (Justin Hall-Tipping)

[Vo]:Best and worst aspects of the Oct. 6 test summarized at LENR-CANR News

2011-10-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
I decided to write a longish report on this. I do not usually include this much detail in the news section. I prefer to use links to original sources. there are so many original sources and they are so difficult to understand I decided I should summarize them. See: http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm

[Vo]:Toyota Develops 1000 km Electric Car Battery

2011-10-20 Thread Terry Blanton
Molten salt? http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/10/18/2011101800617.html Toyota Develops New Electric Car Battery Toyota Motor has developed a secondary electric car battery that can last up to 1,000 km per charge, the Nihon Keizai Shimbun reported Monday. That is five times the

Re: [Vo]:Toyota Develops 1000 km Electric Car Battery

2011-10-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Wow! Amazing if true. 1000 km?!? Really? Better than gasoline? That could have a major impact on the electric power distribution network too. How ironic it would be if Rossi succeeds and this battery breakthrough comes along just when it is no longer needed. That sort of thing has often

Re: [Vo]:Toyota Develops 1000 km Electric Car Battery

2011-10-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! Amazing if true. Chosun.com is a Korean web site which appears to have good credibility. I know that Toyota failed in a $400M project for a lithium polymer battery, which led to their RAV4 agreement with Tesla.

[Vo]:Stool's Gold

2011-10-20 Thread Terry Blanton
The ultimate in transmutation: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/man-jailed-after-trying-to-turn-faeces-into-gold-.html Man jailed after trying to turn faeces into gold By Richard Evans | Yahoo! News – 12 hours ago A man from Northern Ireland has been jailed after an experiment in which he attempted to

Re: [Vo]:Best and worst aspects of the Oct. 6 test summarized at LENR-CANR News

2011-10-20 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Jed wrote at news section: »There were no chemical or electrical sources of power inside this reactor so the heat must have come from an anomalous reaction.» http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm I think that here we have too categorical conclusion. I would say something like: »There was not seen any

Re: [Vo]:Best and worst aspects of the Oct. 6 test summarized at LENR-CANR News

2011-10-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: And many people are paid for performing grand illusions that cannot be exposed by observers in audience and live television. And who is going to pay Rossi for a hoax? This engineer will tell you that none of us

Re: [Vo]:Best and worst aspects of the Oct. 6 test summarized at LENR-CANR News

2011-10-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: And many people are paid for performing grand illusions that cannot be exposed by observers in audience and live television. And who is going to pay Rossi for a hoax? This engineer will tell you that none of us will be fooled. Yeah! About those

Re: [Vo]:Best and worst aspects of the Oct. 6 test summarized at LENR-CANR News

2011-10-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:. Yeah! About those stage magicians: they only fool you because you are in the audience, not on stage. Put Terry on the stage for a few minutes, let him go behind the apparatus, and he will tell you how the trick works..

Re: [Vo]:Best and worst aspects of the Oct. 6 test summarized at LENR-CANR News

2011-10-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Hopefully, we will know the truth within less than a week. Or two. :-) T

Re: [Vo]:Steam engines

2011-10-20 Thread ecat builder
Thanks for the responses everyone. A few quick comments: Hoyt: Are you sure the electric company will want unsynchronized AC? That might make the meter run backwards, but it seems counter-intuitive. Also, $200K/year might be today's price, but that number should quickly approach zero. Once a