On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.comwrote:
This example, at its most simple message shows how corporations sometimes
see new technologies in the opposite light even though the world might
benefit.
Agreed. Corporations sometimes see things in terms starkly
http://www.lenrforum.eu
Every now and then a bold idea comes along which may (or will)
significantly change our view of Earth's natural history...
Piezonuclear Fission Reactions in Rocks: Evidences from Microchemical
Analysis, Neutron Emission, and Geological Transformation
http://vimeo.com/41901023
(from the 'Atom
They are going back today:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/29/truth-is-out-there-about-ufo-in-baltic-sea-swedish-scientists-say/
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-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder lt;hveeder...@gmail.comgt;
To: vortex-l lt;vortex-l@eskimo.comgt;
Sent: Fri, Jun 1, 2012 11:24 am
Subject: [Vo]:Piezonuclear Fission Reactions in Rocks
Every now and then a
Good website.
They have pointer to a NanoSpire page I had not seen -
http://jinnwe.com/quest.php?id=512
At the bottom is a fascinating youtube clip on the 'pistol shrimp' that
uses cavitation to disable prey.
BTW, Roger Stringham has also been working on cavitation based LENR
(it may turn out to
Jed,
Just a fact check. You don't know how many times I have heard that a
solar site 100 miles to the side in the Mohave could generate all of the
power requirements for the US.
Some numbers based upon most efficient claimed CSP plant: (approx 2 to 3
times more efficient than PV but much more
Well, at 40% efficiency, you need 1.6Km^2 for every gigawatt, So, 30X30 km2
will do it. Maintenance is hard but in terms of area, it is not something
spectacular.
Consider the reservoirs of the 2 most powerful hydroelectric dams:
Itaipu reservoir has 1350km^2
Daniel,
Double check your math...i get 38 sq km per gigawatt during daylight with
clean mirrors
On Friday, June 1, 2012, Daniel Rocha wrote:
Well, at 40% efficiency, you need 1.6Km^2 for every gigawatt, So, 30X30
km2 will do it. Maintenance is hard but in terms of area, it is not
something
Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Some numbers based upon most efficient claimed CSP plant: (approx 2 to 3
times more efficient than PV but much more expensive)
They are not much more expensive, and by the time you build one that is 100
miles to the side, they would be the cheapest
Solar irradiance is ~1kw/m^2. 1GW/km^2, then. It goes up to 1.3GW/km^2 if
balloons at stratosphere are used.
2012/6/1 Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com
Daniel,
Double check your math...i get 38 sq km per gigawatt during daylight with
clean mirrors
On Friday, June 1, 2012, Daniel Rocha
Daniel,
Your 40% overall efficiency only includes rankine cycle and leaves out
Mirror losses
Air dispersion of mirror flux
Steam generator ambient radiation losses
10 hour only per day generation
Transmission losses
Overall number is much lower.
On Friday, June 1, 2012, Daniel Rocha
Liberal Journalist wannabes seem to abound
in vertex. Experienced adults know that governments lie. Bureaucrats and
politicians
alike must keep their jobs as priority one. Thank you for your observations,
Chemical Engineer. Remember Communist Russia and
its creation of a land of happy,
I wrote:
Also, your Robots will need to clean 781 million mirrors per month
(monthly cleaning cycle) in the heat and sand of the desert.
So what? Use 100,000 robots.
That would be 11 mirrors per robot per hour. That seems like a reasonable
task even for a slow moving robot.
Maybe you
These are photovoltaic cells. And night consumption is lower. Even at 20%,
the total area is still small.
2012/6/1 Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com
Daniel,
Your 40% overall efficiency only includes rankine cycle and leaves out
Mirror losses
Air dispersion of mirror flux
Steam
ny@aol.com wrote:
Liberal Journalist wannabes seem to abound
in vertex. Experienced adults know that governments lie.
So do corporations, universities, physicists, bankers and stockbrokers. So
do farmers, housewives, doctors, bakers, and candlestick makers. It is the
human condition.
It
Shouldn't the costs be going down Jed?
http://www.renewablesbiz.com/article/12/05/pge-says-it-will-meet-california-s-renewable-energy-goalsutm_medium=eNLutm_campaign=RB_DAILY2utm_term=Original-Member
As an engineer i have to deal with reality which focuses my creativity
toward worthwile
Liberalism is supporting government? Shouldn't it be the opposite? I mean,
liberalism is a typical conservative stance, for example, the more
conservative the republican, the more liberal it is. Liberal as meaning
interference of the government with the economy. The most liberal of the
republican
As Chemical Engineer said: (and they are WASTING OUR MONEY)
Very Quickly
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell lt;jedrothw...@gmail.comgt;
To: vortex-l lt;vortex-l@eskimo.comgt;
Sent: Fri, Jun 1, 2012 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:re the alternative history of LENR
I think it would be a nice police to invest 2trillion dollars in building
these technologies within 10 years or so. It would avoid spending much more
in wars or foreign policies later.
2012/6/1 ny@aol.com
As Chemical Engineer said: (and they are WASTING OUR MONEY)
Very Quickly
waiting for Godot.
Or is it projections?
Or what?
Solaris/Vortex:
Troubled psychologist(s) sent to investigate the crew of an isolated research
station (Rossi et al) orbiting a bizarre planet. (LENR).
Not that I do'nt like that of sorts.
Anyway.
Guenther
Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Shouldn't the costs be going down Jed?
http://www.renewablesbiz.com/article/12/05/pge-says-it-will-meet-california-s-renewable-energy-goalsutm_medium=eNLutm_campaign=RB_DAILY2utm_term=Original-Member
As an engineer i have to deal with reality which
Jed,
Concentrated Solar thermal has been around for 40 years and the costs still
suck. They are assembling 350,000 mirrors/heliostats at the job site. How
effective do you think that is? How much more time do they need to be
competitive? 50 years, 500 years, 5000 years? I am glad I don't live
At 01:29 PM 6/1/2012, Chemical Engineer wrote:
Daniel,
Your 40% overall efficiency only includes rankine cycle and leaves out
Mirror losses
Air dispersion of mirror flux
Steam generator ambient radiation losses
10 hour only per day generation
Transmission losses
Overall number is much lower.
Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Concentrated Solar thermal has been around for 40 years and the costs
still suck.
Wind turbines were around for 1000 years but until the 1990s their costs
were much too high. It is not the length of time that counts; it is the
total RD and scale of
Jed,
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Concentrated Solar thermal has been around for 40 years and the costs
still suck.
Wind turbines were around for 1000 years but until the 1990s their costs
were
Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Wind turbines were around for 1000 years but until the 1990s their costs
were much too high. It is not the length of time that counts; it is the
total RD and scale of manufacturing.
It is not just the scale of manufacturing, not every product or
One can justify Govt’s responsibility to use PUBLIC, TAXPAYER funds for pure
RD, and I’d go as far as some applied RD, but that’s about it. And the
results of all that research should be FREELY available to any taxpayer (unless
it’s so sensitive that it’s been declared a national security
Jed,
Absolutely, flat mirrors have been used for thousands of years and full
length flat mirrors have been used for 400 years. Mirrors are already mass
produced, just go to any Home Depot. Google spent money two years ago
reseaching heliostats/solar thermal and dropped it. They have not made
Remarkably well stated. Thank you.
Warm Regards,
Reliable
MarkI-ZeroPoint
Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:16:38 -0700
One can justify Govts responsibility to use PUBLIC, TAXPAYER funds for pure
RD, and Id go as far as some applied RD, but thats about it. And the
results of all that research
Mark,
Thanks, Forgot to mention earlier these additional companies going/gone
belly up
Beacon power
Abound solar
Solopower
Nobody died that i know of but lots of money was robbed from government
coffers and you can't blame it all on the Chinese.
On Friday, June 1, 2012, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:
Mark,
Thanks, Forgot to mention earlier these additional companies going/gone
belly up
Beacon power
Abound solar
Solopower
Nobody died that i know of but lots of money was robbed from government
coffers and you can't blame it all on the Chinese.
On Friday, June 1, 2012, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:
MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
One can justify Govt’s responsibility to use PUBLIC, TAXPAYER funds for *
pure* RD, and I’d go as far as some *applied* RD, but that’s about it.
And the results of all that research should be FREELY available to any
taxpayer . . .
I agree. Several
Vo,
A pair of little reported Time Bombs threaten to end billions of human lives.
The first is the Fuel Ponds at Fukushima. A highly probable, near-term,
powerful earthquake can release enough radioactivity to endanger most of our
lives in the Northern hemisphere.
The second is a little
I share your concerns, Mark
And, according to studies I've read, hardening the grid would not really
cost that much - certainly just a small fraction of what's spent to
protect against imaginary dangers.
I am not sure, but I believe a meteor or comet strike (Tunguska scale)
could also cause an
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think it is a good idea for the U.S. to become an economic colony
of China, incapable of manufacturing any core technology for ourselves. It
is difficult to know how we can avoid that without the government
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Liberalism is supporting government? Shouldn't it be the opposite? I mean,
liberalism is a typical conservative stance, for example, the more
conservative the republican, the more liberal it is. Liberal as meaning
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