[Vo]:National Archives Of Great Britian- UFO Files- July 2012

2012-07-21 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex, For Entertainment Purposes Only: http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ Ron Kita, Chiralex

Re: [Vo]:Are We Being Evicted?

2012-07-21 Thread LORENHEYER
I've seen about 5 pretty good ones, and several more not quite as, over the years. I saw one once that had just begun to enter the upper atmosphere and it immediately blew apart, w/o any sound. It was obviously a fairly good distance out up over East Nv or farther.

Re: [Vo]:National Archives Of Great Britian- UFO Files- July 2012

2012-07-21 Thread LORENHEYER
We, as in this civilization of a race of human beings in an initial or elementary stage of development way back in time, on earth,,, are in the archives aboard UFO's. Now just think what it would be like to have been up there coordinating efforts since the time of the earliest simple lifeforms

RE: [Vo]:Another Solar Firm Shuts Down

2012-07-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Recent snippets from Axil: Originally a Democrat, Adelson became a Republican as his wealth increased. Why is it fair that I should be paying a higher percentage of taxes than anyone else? he once asked. ... Adelson is a good example of why trickledown economics? no longer

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: I couldn’t disagree more… seriously, hundreds or thousands of years? *** * ** ** Once the scientific community (both academic and corporate) realizes that a whole new field of science is being born, they will dive in to understand it and

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread Chemical Engineer
I agree with Mark, People will not have to learn LENR, they will just replace/upgrade their existing HVAC equipment with a device that happens to produce electricity also and reduces their bill - no brainer. Information access is much easier today with the internet and will aid in the

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Mark, People will not have to learn LENR, they will just replace/upgrade their existing HVAC equipment with a device that happens to produce electricity also and reduces their bill - no brainer. That would be the energy application

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread Harry Veeder
Da Vinci knew that man would someday have flying machines. I wonder how long he thought it would take. ;-) Harry On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Mark, People will not have to learn LENR,

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread Alain Sepeda
I agree, but it is the minimum. However ther is no limit to stupidity, and some zone might forbid it... (For example, France, Germany, Europe). Not as a conspiracy, but for quasi-religious reason, like it is done in EU. add that the lobbying of old monopolies (think about Russian supporting

RE: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Jed, I still disagree for several reasons: - 200 years ago a medical doctor only had to read a few books to assimilate all the knowledge there was at the time; that is impossible today. Science has generated such a wealth of knowledge in ALL areas that specializations in each field of

RE: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Excellent question Harry... Da Vinci is one of the people I've wanted to go back in time to talk to, if that was possible... -m -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:36 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Migrant

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread Axil Axil
Remember that Da Vinci wrote his notes upside down and backwards to keep them secret. It would be ironic if Da Vinci ranted about “snakes and clowns” during your conversation and that they did not understanding him and were trying to steal his stuff. The more things change, the more they stay

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: - **Until the advent of the telegraph and radio, the spread of knowledge was EXTREMELY SLOW. Communications across the Atlantic took months, so two scientists debating their ideas on theories, or two engineers discussing the design of a

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread Axil Axil
In only a few more years, a LENR developer will be able to run quantum mechanical nuclear system simulations on his quantum computer app using his iPhone 10. All while he attends a meeting in persons at least virtually as a hologram. In a short time, we have come a long way from the heady days of

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
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RE: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Sorry, still not convinced! Your example is too narrow/simplistic, and doesn't capture the actual process of how scientific knowledge advances. Science does NOT happen with a simple, scientist#1 publishes paper; scientist#2 reproduces. that is only a small part. You state: It was no

[Vo]:FYI: Polarizable vacuum analysis of electric and magnetic fields

2012-07-21 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Polarizable vacuum analysis of electric and magnetic fields http://arxiv.org/pdf/0902.1305.pdf -- ABSTRACT In summary, according to the analysis of the energy and force of the electric and magnetic fields on the basis of vacuum polarization, it is concluded that an

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Now we have another process to go thru in order to publish: **- **he takes a week or two to write it up and sends it to the editor in England (6 weeks) **- **the editor then sends copies to peers who have the expertise

[Vo]:Cats for Sale

2012-07-21 Thread Terry Blanton
Sweden and Australia look to be taking prelim orders for units. But the Aussie site might be the dubious GW. I wonder why we see no others? T

RE: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Jed points out: They did not do that stuff back then, for the obvious reason that it would take too long. The Royal Society got letters from their members and published them verbatim. There was nothing like modern peer-review. Yes, I understand, but that means that the paper was not even

RE: [Vo]:Cats for Sale

2012-07-21 Thread *** Craig Brown ***
Maybe because there is no product that exists. -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2012 9:40 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Cats for Sale Sweden and Australia look to be taking prelim orders for units. But the Aussie site