6p+3e-li6 (add the neutrino)
it can be made zero momentum
I take it from hydroton theory, with a possibility that it is not 1D, but
3D reaction
It is not so crazy as Iwamura transmutations are 1/2/3 pairs of deuteron
pairs of hydrogen nucleus is logical to conserve momentum
3D is much harder
problem is there is no motive, and strong opposite motiveµ.
he have no explanation for that, it cost much, it bring only doubt,
moreover it may mean tha the reactor consume nickel, that it was
exhausted...
we have a complex phenomenon called LENR, that clearly does not respect the
free-space
Towards the end of his life, science fiction writer Sir Arthur C. Clarke
predicted that a space elevator would be built ten years after everybody
stopped laughing. By the time he died, in 2008, everybody had.
*Scientists Might Have Accidentally Solved The Hardest Part Of Building
Space Elevators*
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
A corespondent sent me this link:
http://www.eurotherm2008.tue.nl/Proceedings_Eurotherm2008/papers/Radiation/RAD_6.pdf
He commented: My interpretation of figure 6 is that the tranmissivity of
alumina goes down
you explain the new shape of the reactor covering, with the
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shapes, as a required increase of convection ?
what I see in that reactor is dozens of engineering innovations, not so
sexy as LENR, but the kind engineer do everyday to make rocket fly.
2014-10-13 23:21 GMT+02:00 David
the gamma is only required if
- the reaction is not zeromomentum (you see why I support that geometry is
the kety adn reaction have to be geometrically symmetric)
- or energy cannot be transmited as another potential energy to an object
that have enoug energy state to dissipate it in smaller
the hypothesis that ther is a huge artifact in the measurement is more
rational than fraud.
Since rossi and IH are baffled by the result, this is a big option...
anyway that it is real and Rossi don't underatdn all the reactio is not at
all to exclude.
never forget we have no theory.
You should
I think we can eliminate 2 kind of impossible reaction :
- those involving free neutrons that would be thermalized even rarely, and
detected
- those not geometrically balanced which would creat a gamma tha would be
detected.
geometry is the key because of CoM.
probably the electron is too, but
If all the electrons and photons are joined in a boson condensate that have
come to a common energy state, a photon blockade is established for new EMF.
as an analogy...
EMF behaves like a drop of hot water that is dropped into a large glass of
ice water. The hot water mixes and thereby shares
those not geometrically balanced which would creat a gamma tha would be
detected
No... this is a bad assumption, The gammas could be shielded by quantum
mechanical processes that are pervasive throughout the entire body of the
reactor
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:53 AM, Alain Sepeda
rewriting...
If all the electrons and photons are joined in a boson condensate that have
come to a common energy state, a photon blockade is established for new EMF.
as an analogy...
Here, energetic EMF like gamma rays behaves like a drop of hot water that
is dropped into a large glass of ice
Dear Jed,
See please the 1 =0 Rule-
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/05/the-1-0-rule-generalized.html
I have learned it from the failures in actual tecghnological research.
Just now it seems an error that all the nickel eggs were put in a single
alumina basket.
I think that performing
Dear Sunil,
Planck was right- in principle- but dogmatism and age are -, alas!
weakly correlated. The Paradigm Shift is more difficult, Yama alone cannot
solve it. But we must do it.
Peter
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Sunil Auluck skhaul...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is appropriate to
Anyone following this?
http://forum.keshefoundation.org/forum/keshe-official/34787-breakthrough-in-the-world-of-science
It looks like they got up to 62T off of 10w of energy. They are live
streaming the entire thing.
interesting.
If my memory is correct the origins of the Keshe Foundation is Iran.
Also...they have been promising UFO tech for years...I stopped watching
them.
Ad Astra,
Ron
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
wrote:
Anyone following this?
Interesting analysis, Jones. I agree there is a scenario such that the
current fuel he has is economically prohibitive which would be motivation
for him to mess with the results.
Another scenario is he simply doesn't want other people to replicate his
work just yet and is using these guys for
Keshe Foundation is a legal entity in Belgium.
Not very credible due to lack of facts
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:
If my memory is correct the origins of the Keshe Foundation is Iran.
Also...they have been promising UFO tech for years...I stopped
From: Alain Sepeda
6p+3e-li6 (add the neutrino)
it can be made zero momentum
I take it from hydroton theory, with a possibility that it is not 1D, but 3D
reaction
Please clarify: six protons coming together at one time is a six-body reaction,
no? How do all 6 get there at the same
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
P.S.,
I almost burned down a research lab in Portland, ME as a co-op engineer in
1984 when the polymer shell we were spinning onto a roll cover caught fire
and evacuated the building from thick black smoke.
So that qualifies me as an expert.
An
In searching the TP2 document, Inconel is mentioned 11 times, but never the
grade. Great technical writing, for sure.
All of the grades have substantial nickel of course, and a few are loaded
with what are known as Mills' catalysts in addition to nickel. Inconel 617
would be especially active due
The Inconel wire could be the Mouse integrated into the reactor design.
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
In searching the TP2 document, Inconel is mentioned 11 times, but never the
grade. Great technical writing, for sure.
All of the grades have
Broadly speaking, I think three explanation have been offered for the
astounding mass spec results:
1. Tentative acceptance, or at least acceptance for the sake of argument.
That, it seems to me, is McKubre's position. As McKubre says, this result
is so different from previous ones it should be
From: Axil Axil
The Inconel wire could be the Mouse integrated into the
reactor design.
Or there could be another chamber. Think about the way it is filled. Does
the powder drop all the way down the tube so that if the other end cap was
designed to be the
2. Mistake. This seems unlikely given the magnitude of the effect. On the
other hand mass spectroscopy is a difficult art. The people at Mitsubishi
and the National Synchrotron lab both saw pronounced isotopic shifts in
Iwamura's samples. The people at the NRL looked at those samples and saw
what is SPP?
Harry
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
In any event, there seems to be no good reason to eliminate the Inconel as
being active, since it contains lots of nickel - especially in the context
of SPP.
SPP = surface plasmon polariton.
This is a favorite hypothesis of NASA at the moment.
Violante discovered over 10 years ago that SPP can produce nuclear reactions.
Paper is on LENR-CANR
From: H Veeder
what is SPP?
Harry
In any event, there seems to be no good
4. Jed don't think Rossi owes him money
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Tomclarke wrote:
Reactor surface (claimed) temperature, for several days 1400C
at 2.8kW flux, Al2O3 heat capacity, cylinder 4mm ID/ 20mm OD heat
difference is 200C
So temperature of powder must be 1600C continuous at least - more if
thermal conductivity to Al2O3 is not large.
T =
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
wrote:
Broadly speaking, I think three explanation have been offered for the
astounding mass spec results:
1. Tentative acceptance, or at least acceptance for the sake of argument.
That, it seems to me, is McKubre's
Robert, I think a lot of your observations are spot on. I would like to
continue discussion of the likely construction of the latest IH hotCat.
You are likely correct that the corrosion of liquid and vapor phase lithium
would be terrible for use of a metal reactor vessel. That is probably why
I agree the coil is imbedded within the alumina shell
Maybe the end caps are heat sinks?
I still think the unit works off induction from the coil
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Robert, I think a lot of your observations are spot on. I would
That seems to be the best explanation that is derived from my model. Stable
operation of the HotCat is achieved when the heat generated by the core finds
an easy escape from the device. Since it is highly likely that the heat energy
generated within the core increases at a rate that is
Yes, sorry -- I was referring back to the 2013 test.
For that we had a picture of the ceramic frame holding the resistor wires,
which was cast in two (I recall, without looking it up) sections.
For a small area, we have a solid plate (complicated by fins), and then a
cog-like structure with
See my thread: Super-fluidic heat flow
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Robert, I think a lot of your observations are spot on. I would like to
continue discussion of the likely construction of the latest IH hotCat.
You are likely correct that
It has moderate transmissivity in the visible range, which is what the
photograph shows. But it drops to zero by 6 and above, which is what the IR
camera is measuring.
So there could be visible shadows / glowing resistors seen through the ceramic,
but the IR calculations are OK.
-
The caps must be resistant to hydrogen exfiltration, i.e. not sintered. Is
there some mention in the test report that says that the outer alumina tube
is hydrogen proof? Does it say that the outer tube is sintered alumina?
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
Dear David.
If there a way in your simulation to prove that the nickel particles would
all be melted unless some LENR miracle is preventing it.
See my tread Super-fluidic heat flow for tomclarks analysis.
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:24 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
That seems
My suspicion is that the end caps are the same diameter as the holes in which
the numerous HotCats are inserted. Energy is transferred out of the CATs by
radiation and convection plus conduction and space is needed for the flow of
the convection material.
The temperature of the surface of the
No. The simulation is quite limited in scope.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Oct 14, 2014 11:46 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Interesting Simulation Results
Dear David.
If there a way in your simulation to
Alan,
And that is why they should have calibrated for thermal loss at the higher
temperature, if Mitchell Swartz’s argument is accurate. Everyone seems to be
missing this.
Mitch sates: even an accurate temperature measurement is NOT power or heat
loss. The person to whom Brian Ahern
Could another team make another test with McKubre other advices ?
I'm afraid Rossi is tired of that, but it would help the others groups too.
Maybe is it useless, as business circles seems aware...
but what about citizen...
the problem is to find volunteer that are ok to ruin their career but
Much of the red glow is confined to the central part of the alumina vessel,
but there are areas where the red glow extends to the exterior surface of
the vessel.
Is all the red glow near the exterior surface just diffusion of red light
from the central part due to the alumina's translucency or
In a recent email, Ed Storms observed that the sample of the Lugano ash
that was tested was probably not at all representative of the material that
was active in the reactor core. At the temperatures measured, many of the
materials would have melted (or vaporized), and those that did not melt
clearly the 6 proton have to be synchronous/intricated/coherent
if you succeed with a 3 body p-e-p (which need some be be coherent)
why not 6.
but you are right
1D variant looks more acceptable
D-He4-li6
looks like Brillouin theory, but with Iwamura style (even hydrogen fusion).
my reason to
To state it another way:
1) Accurate temperature measurement is NOT the same as power or heat
loss.
2) Levi measured temperature accurately
3) The Stefan–Boltzmann law describes the power radiated from a
blackbody
4) Levi then used Stefan-Boltzmann to calculate heat loss,
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Another point has to do with how the heat is conveyed from a LENR
reaction. Since the LENR reaction is likely a nano-scale event, heat must
be conveyed from the reaction in a way that doesn't make the NAE the
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:21 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Can we refocus this thread into discussion about the construction of the
latest reactor? For example:
- Why do we think the end
In the steady state, I don't think the reaction powder will be any cooler
than the vessel. If the photons are absorbed in the vessel and the vessel
heats, the surrounding vessel will radiate, conduct, and convect heat back
to the powder which will drive it to be the same temperature as the
Jonas:
I seem to remember that the 4th power thing is due to (largely due to?)
the strongly rising center of the frequency as temperature increases.
Thus, the radiated power through a narrow window (visible band is only 1
octave) is probably only proportional to the /first/ power, at least
The phone cops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTPzTG1Lx60
Harry
Ok.
Anyway, I agree with your intuition that something odd might be occurring
in the heater wire.
harry
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
SPP = surface plasmon polariton.
This is a favorite hypothesis of NASA at the moment.
Violante discovered
From: David L. Babcock
I seem to remember that the 4th power thing is due to (largely due to?) the
strongly rising center of the frequency as temperature increases. Thus,
the radiated power through a narrow window (visible band is only 1 octave) is
probably only proportional to the
The fact the the Ni62 particle was still functional and had its tubericles
intact points to the fact the particles was not melted and was no hotter
than the outside of the reactor. To explain this LENR miracle, see my
thread called: Super-fluidic heat flow.
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Bob
6 protons can fuse and produce three neutrons through the emission of
three positrons.
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
wrote:
clearly the 6 proton have to be synchronous/intricated/coherent
if you succeed with a 3 body p-e-p (which need some be be
If the gas-fired eCat really works, and doesn't need some auxilliary
electromagnetic pulses, then I don't think the heater wires are playing any
other role.
- Original Message -
From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:44 AM
Ok.
Anyway, I agree with
This theory is based on the fact that heat is assumed to come from the
nickel particles. I believe that heat comes from the alumina and the Ni
particles provide field emitters to cause fusion at a distance far from the
nickel particles.
The Ni particles might be located in the coolest part of the
Revised and extended as follows:
If the nickel particles are producing heat, the reactor surface (observed)
temperature, for several days 1400C at 2.8kW flux, Al2O3 heat capacity,
cylinder 4mm ID/ 20mm OD heat difference is 200C
So temperature of powder must be 1600C continuous at least - more
Following on to this line of thought ... Given the temperatures that the
reactor had been operating in actual operation, many of the constituents of
the fuel powder would have either melted, vaporized, or sintered to the
inside of the reactor core vessel. Thus, when removing the ash for test,
the
To see how truly powerful TPC is, you have to watch this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_President's_Analyst
Particle 1 was analyzed and found to contain Ni62. Its photo shows that its
tubercles were not melted and the particle was therefore cold. Your
reasoning must be reversed. Particle 1 came from the COLDEST part of the
reactor. The induction coil is also cold and must have been located close
to the
Dear Friends
Just published
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/10/confront-journal-october-14-2014-i-have.html
and also AXIL's comment to the Siegel paper.
See you tomorrow.
Peter
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
(Response in line)
On 10/14/2014 12:51 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
*From:*David L. Babcock
I seem to remember that the 4th power thing is due to (largely due
to?) the strongly rising center of the frequency as temperature
increases. Thus, the radiated power through a narrow window (visible
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
You seem to be saying that it is not found in the “revised” or edited
version? There is an edited version of the report, in which details like
this are removed.
Where is this edited version? What is the URL?
Which is older?
- Jed
Hi
Following Mickael McKubre critics, I posted a question for the testers but
some here may answer with the public data
- assuming the convection factor is maybe badly represented
(underestimated for the dummy, over represented for the active) because the
dummy was tested at lower
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
- is there a simple way , with minimal assumption, to be sure that the
COP1
Look at the color. If it is dull red, it may be around 750°C which is
where you would expect it to be in a straight line extrapolation
calibration up to 800 W. If it
McKubre’s point about the value of the implications of the input power step
response is very important, and I entirely agree. In terms of systems
analysis, when you have an input step function, the derivative of that input
then becomes an approximation of the Dirac delta function, otherwise
In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:53:26 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
I think we can eliminate 2 kind of impossible reaction :
- those involving free neutrons that would be thermalized even rarely, and
detected
The reactions described below do not involve free neutrons.
A bound
Use of 3 ph. power is not really a mystery. Most industrial equipment
is 3 ph. and each leg must be kept in balance with the others. This
is easiest with 3 ph. delta configs.
Having condensed,
all the photons are at the same energy level thus resulting in a singular
wavelength.
We call that monochromatic. Keep 'em in phase and you haz laser.
Two orders of magnitude more:
The Sandia researchers reported this week in Physical Review Letters
that they had heated the plasma to about 35 million degrees Celsius
and detected about 2 trillion neutrons coming from each shot. (One
reaction of fusing two deuteriums produces helium-3 and a
Given the results of the SIMS analysis from the Lugano report, particularly
as detailed in this posting:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg98596.html
I believe that it is possible to evaluate the nuclear activity of candidate
fuel samples simply by sputter-cleaning them as
The fact that the 100 watt input power increase yielded a calculated(and
assumed) output power increase of 700 watts does indeed prove that the COP is
greater than unity. My model shows that this is the general behavior that is
expected from any device that has internally generated power. I
Bob,
Just so you know, your insight is not being ignored - although you may
reasonably suspect it is, since there are few comments.
Lots of people are trying to come to grips with this data, as preposterous
as it may seem at first glance. But the main problem remains: these are very
energetic
BTW Bob - you suggested a simple way to look for the Ni+Li reaction.
There is a simpler way yet... get hold of some those exploding lithium
batteries... you know ... the one's with nickel electrodes. Look for 69Ga in
the debris field of the next Boeing Dreamliner crash.
Krivit is on the case
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
BTW Bob - you suggested a simple way to look for the Ni+Li reaction.
There is a simpler way yet... get hold of some those exploding lithium
batteries... you know ... the one's with nickel electrodes.
Or just ride the bus:
Or just ride your bike...
http://koin.com/2014/09/05/electric-bike-battery-may-have-caused-bend-house-fire/
On Tuesday, October 14, 2014, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
javascript:; wrote:
BTW Bob - you suggested a
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Jones Beene wrote:
BTW Bob - you suggested a simple way to look for the Ni+Li reaction.
There is a simpler way yet... get hold of some those exploding lithium
batteries... you know ... the one's with nickel electrodes.
Or just ride the bus:
In general, I think it is not a good idea to fly plastic fuselage airplanes
with lithium batteries @ 42,000 feet up near the ionosphere...
On Tuesday, October 14, 2014, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Jones Beene wrote:
BTW Bob - you
How long will it be before the dreaded Ni-62 bombe (best Inspector Clouseau
accent)
From: ChemE Stewart
In general, I think it is not a good idea to fly plastic fuselage airplanes
with lithium batteries @ 42,000 feet up near the ionosphere...
From: Terry Blanton
Jones Beene wrote:
Are you implying exploding pennies?
On Tuesday, October 14, 2014, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
How long will it be before the dreaded Ni-62 bombe (best Inspector
Clouseau accent)
*From:* ChemE Stewart
In general, I think it is not a good idea to fly plastic
fuselage
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/10/14/nbc-news-article-on-fusion-mentions-e-cat-not-negatively/
Harry
So the heater coils in the 2013 test were embedded in ceramic sheath which
covered a steel vessel. I was recalling the 2013 test as if the coils were
inside the steel vessel.
It all makes sense now.
Harry
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Yes, sorry -- I was
Nah… that’s Randy’s gig.
Say, in case it hasn’t dawned on ya’ … using up most of your Li-7 with
nickel – which makes the ratio decrease compared Li-6 … this makes it look
like you have converted Li-7 to Li-6 which is not the case.
It still costs a helluva a lot to make power this way.
See (hear):
http://coldfusionnow.org/andrea-rossi-on-3rd-party-report-industrial-heat-1mw-plant-new-interview/
Courtesy of John Maguire and Ruby Carat. Rossi on the report (to
paraphrase): the calculation of the COP in the report was very
conservative; it's possible that the real COP was
When the latest TPT is analyzed in the light of what happens in the context
of an E-Cat reactor melt down, things start to make sense.
Let us remember what the E-Cat meltdown is all about as follows:
James Bowery
December 28th, 2013 at 7:54 PM
Dr. Rossi,
When you say that reactors “explode”
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Why do we think the 3-phase drive is used?
I'm guessing this has to do with an induction mode, perhaps creating a
condition not unlike a microwave inside the E-Cat, with electric arcing
between the various iron and
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Why do we think the end caps are so big? Are they part of a lower
temperature insulated mounting system?
The following is a bit speculative, but perhaps someone can correct any
misstatements I make -- if there is a
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