RE: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects

2015-07-30 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Jed: Mizuno informed me that the Japanese government agency NEDO has issued a Request for Proposal (RFP) for projects in cold fusion. The date is 2015, title Energy / Environment New Technology Program http://www.nedo.go.jp/content/100754489.pdf Item D4 on p. 13 here

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]HOTTEST CAT

2015-07-30 Thread Bob Cook
The mechanism for LENR or whatever is a reasonable description of energy producing system at 1380 C may well be different than what happens at lower temperatures. The main question IMHO is how mass is being converted to thermal phonic energy—what are the conditions that allow this transition?

Re: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong.

2015-07-30 Thread Axil Axil
The Bertozzi’s experiment just shows that a 20 MeV electron is relativistic no matter how that electron was produced. On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Was Bertozzi’s experiment in a plasma—2 particle interaction-- or within a many bodied solid or liquid

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong.

2015-07-30 Thread Axil Axil
What causes the warp? On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Axil, the math is fine but IMHO we need to consider equivalent acceleration where the region of space the hydrogen is passing thru is a warp and the entire atom undergoes Lorentzian

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong.

2015-07-30 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, the math is fine but IMHO we need to consider equivalent acceleration where the region of space the hydrogen is passing thru is a warp and the entire atom undergoes Lorentzian contraction becoming relativistic NOT JUST THE ELECTRON. You and I are not expending energy to move at

Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects

2015-07-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
I think Mizuno meant that is no one left in Japan who is capable of applying for this grant, or interested in applying for it. The document (http://www.nedo.go.jp/content/100754489.pdf) is entirely in Japanese, but if you look at the pages below 15, you will see the application form. You will

Re: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong.

2015-07-30 Thread Bob Cook
Was Bertozzi’s experiment in a plasma—2 particle interaction-- or within a many bodied solid or liquid coherent system? The options for reactions may be significantly different. Bob Cook From: Axil Axil Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 12:19 PM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]HOTTEST CAT

2015-07-30 Thread Axil Axil
Quantum mechanical entanglement can combine different types of atoms and photons can entangle atoms and atoms can entangle photons. This is how multiple atoms can become one atom and the energy released from that fusion can be converted to heat. See for example

Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects

2015-07-30 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed I like your reaction The conclusion to me is that government is not good at entrepreneurship, innovation or other things not fully understood as the result is part of the task to be delegated. Government by definition cannot delegate. I think Steven's example proves it. That is why risk taking

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong.

2015-07-30 Thread Roarty, Francis X
The warp is caused by suppression geometry of the cavity walls or defects in the lattice, it is a quantum effect of the surrounding geometry that the atoms happen to be randomly migrating through, they may react to the decrease in vacuum density but they did nothing themselves to supply the

Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects

2015-07-30 Thread Lennart Thornros
OK Jed it was not very well stated. Yes, there are good people all over the place. My point was that in new organizations it is easier to get the culture to stay. If you have clear messages from the top and enthusiasm then it can work. I think - without having any connection worth mentioning -

Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects

2015-07-30 Thread Eric Walker
Hi Steven, I'm sympathetic to your feelings about new, inexperienced managers barging in and arrogating to themselves important decisions without the benefit of consulting the people who are in the best position to know what the implications will be. But going beyond that, let me propose that

Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects

2015-07-30 Thread Lennart Thornros
Hi Steven, Yes I agree with that NASA did something I would say in spite of being a government organization. Driving forces JFK and W von Braun. Not the organization . I will not comment on the political stuff as I do not want to come across as I like any politician (looking on them as a function

Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects

2015-07-30 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: But going beyond that, let me propose that each government is dysfunctional in its unique way, and the primary challenge faced by the US government seems to be that it is overly bureaucratic. I do not want to overstate this. I do not mean that other governments are not also too

RE: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects

2015-07-30 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Hello again Lennart, I wanted to comment on: Example of good result in the government is not enough to convince me that government can handle change and improvements I would say the same criticism applies towards a number of private corporations as well. Jed has been very good at

[Vo]:New York MTA technology

2015-07-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
On the subject of governments, technology and infrastructure, here is an interesting video from the MTA showing equipment from the 1930s and 1950s still in use in the New York subway system. This shows why large organizations cannot change quickly. They have to keep the trains moving.

[Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong.

2015-07-30 Thread Axil Axil
The electron(s) associated with the H- cannot enter the nucleus unless their energy is greater that 20 MeV due to the uncertainty principle. An electron in a H- orbital cannot be that energetic since it would shed that energy through the production of an x-ray photon as the H- seeks a state of

[Vo]:still a rhetoric LENR theories question

2015-07-30 Thread Peter Gluck
See please: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/07/the-hottest-e-cat-catches-bad-lenr.html we have to wait for the answer, but the question is interesting. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

RE: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects

2015-07-30 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Hi Lennart: Government by definition cannot delegate. I think Steven's example proves it. Actually, I would disagree with that opinion even though my previous post would seem to suggest otherwise. I really don't blame government, nor do I think government is incompetent or incapable of

Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects

2015-07-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com wrote: Yes I agree with that NASA did something I would say in spite of being a government organization. Driving forces JFK and W von Braun. Not the organization . That is not a bit true. Most of the NASA people were top notch. The movie Apollo 13 is an

RE: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects

2015-07-30 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Jed: I did not know Grace Hopper but no one contributed more to software than she did. She was an admiral in the Navy. Back around 1980 when I still had a few visible fledgling feathers I got to see Grace Hopper at a talk she gave in Madison on one of her numerous speaking