Please read it:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/08/my-modest-lenr-info-for-aug-6-2015.html
Best,
Peter
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Yes. I suspect that Brian deduced this as being “likely,” rather than
heard it. He has a wide network of well-placed associates. As you know,
he has been highly critical of Lugano, and rightly so.
Yes, I have been critical of Lugano too, and so has Mike
First off, ashfield - it is next to impossible to libel Rossi. The judicial
system of Italy has guaranteed that. His Wiki entry, read by millions, begins
this way:
Andrea Rossi (born 3 June 1950) is an Italian convicted fraudster and claimed
inventor.[1][2][3]
My remarks were more generous -
a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote:
Jones Beene,
It is little wonder why concerned LENR scientists (like Brian Ahern) now
believe that IH has finally seen through Rossi’s BS and are on the verge of
dumping him.
Do you have a reference for this?
I was going to ask the same thing. Where
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
First off, ashfield - it is next to impossible to libel Rossi. The
judicial system of Italy has guaranteed that. His Wiki entry, read by
millions, begins this way:
Andrea Rossi (born 3 June 1950) is an Italian convicted fraudster and
claimed
Interesting report on LENR research here.
http://www.ecat-thenewfire.com/blog/
Adrian
Jones beene,
I asked for a reference to back up your claim. You failed to give it.
Secondhand hearsay is hardly convincing.
As for the Wikipedia piece, they seem as biased as you are.
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Jones Beene,
You are prepared to libel Rossi because you haven't seen proof of what
he claims.
Should we assume the same for you without proof?
What you wrote, that Rossi is a liar and a fraud, is more suited to the
muck in shutrossidown.com than Vortex.
From: Jed Rothwell
It is little wonder why concerned LENR scientists (like Brian Ahern) now
believe that IH has finally seen through Rossi’s BS and are on the verge of
dumping him.
* I was going to ask the same thing. Where did you hear that? From Brian
Ahern I suppose. I wonder where
Jones, it is not a trial.
I understand that you have a negative opinion about Rossi. Right or wrong.
The semi-connection between what you call him a scam artist and a
conviction for tax eviction is stretching the argument way beyond reasons.
Why so critical - ( really judgmental)? Why not let him
Jones Beene,
Rossi was convicted for tax evasion, not tax fraud, decades ago. It has
nothing to do with you libeling him about the E-Cat.
This discussion is pointless.
Adrian
From: Jed Rothwell
I believe tax evasion is the national pastime in Italy….
And that makes it ok? Heck, just blame the prosecutor… somebody had it in for
him, right?
The point is that Rossi cheated when a lot of money was at stake. Not once, but
many times. Would he do it again with
Jed,
My understanding was that after some 60 indictments were thrown out
Rossi was convicted of tax evasion.
This most popular sport in Italy is not the same was fraud.
Wikipedia uses a lot of poor, dated references in Cold Fusion and the
editor Andythegrump spends his life preventing others
One thing I've learned about Jones over the years is that when someone is
gullible enough to attack his personal assessments on LENR subjects I can
pretty much expect that instead of defending his positions he will immediately
launch a strong offense. Doing so, Jones is more than capable of
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Five of the Italian prosecutions for tax evasion ended with convictions
(custody imprisonments) and those were not reversed, and Rossi never
claimed they were.
Is that so? I admit I have not followed the story closely, so I'll take
your word for it.
I
From: Jed Rothwell
Ø He was convicted, but the conviction was thrown out. Therefore he is not
guilty. You cannot site a conviction in court as proof of guilt when that same
conviction is later voided by the courts.
Wait a minute. You act like there was only the one Petrodragon
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
True the SPLC could not have acted as a legal person as it did not exist,
but its antecedents certainly did exist in the form of the natural person
who comprised it and then
-Mensaje original-
Desde: Hauke Hein hhe...@hotmail.com
Enviado: 6 de agosto de 2015 00:21
Para: vortex-l@eskimo.com
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On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
reticence
Jones you might be right but why make a judgment before fact is in? His
reports are positive and if he fabricate all his anecdotes, as you call his
reports. then we can agree he is good at that. However, LENR
Steven,
Would components from the Vort Collective continuum care to comment?
Unfortunately I can't read Frank Acland's reply, who knows all about
it. I'm again getting a message saying there is a coding error and the
page won't display.
From where I sit, the news is that the plant is really
From: Frank Acland
Ø
Ø From what we have been told, what is being tested now IS a commercial
product, providing heat to a factory and saving the factory owner a significant
amount of money in heating costs.
“Been told” is the operative phrase.
The plant owner is silent and is
Jones Beene,
It is little wonder why concerned LENR scientists (like Brian Ahern)
now believe that IH has finally seen through Rossi’s BS and are on the
verge of dumping him.
Do you have a reference for this?
Your comment then tails off into gobbledegook so there still seems to be
a coding
RE: [Vo]:LENR on a Chip
Jones--
The following is a link to a description of a nucleus-electron spin couple.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-02/uob-hea021114.php
Bob Cook
From: Jones Beene
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 6:16 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:LENR on a
From: Bob Cook
*
* The following is a link to a description of a nucleus-electron spin
couple.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-02/uob-hea021114.php
Bob, It is nice to know that this kind of coupling is proved, but don’t you
hate studies where the desired effect is
From what we have been told, what is being tested now IS a commercial
product, providing heat to a factory and saving the factory owner a
significant amount of money in heating costs.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
From
From Ashfield,
...
The good news is that Aftenposten, Norway's largest newspaper , has
reported
they have expert third party confirmation that Rossi's 1 MW thermal LENR
plant
is working well. It is now at about 168 days of the 350 day trial.
If, as now looks likely, LENR works,
RE: [Vo]:LENR on a ChipJones--
Thanks for the links.
The large magnetic fields associated with the SSP’S may facilitate better
alignment and and many body spin coupling with resonances to allow larger
energy shifts and releases of potential energy—mass energy. It seems that such
a release
RE: [Vo]:Re: LENR on a ChipJones--
An additional idea regarding control is the use of temperature to create phonic
resonances, necessary for the coupling to the electron orbital spin. If this
were so, a negative temperature coeff. would be present to stop a runaway
reaction, although not as
I started getting coding error message with some of the posts on the
piece posted by Mats Lewan.
Late this morning I can't even open Vortex.
Content Encoding Error
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an
invalid or unsupported form of compression.
Please
Thanks Frank,
Due to numerous personal distractions that are constantly invading my life I
sort of got out of the habit of keeping tabs of e-Cat world. Perhaps I should
try to remedy that.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
OrionWorks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:Re: LENR on a ChipJones-
I have had the same concern about the higher temperature coupling. However, I
have always thought that the B field was the key—particularly in the Pd system
with its high magnetic susceptibility.
As you point out it may be that the ordering that comes
That may explain how you managed to achieve including an attachment of the 6
page Word doc in a Vortex-l email message.
Bob Cook
-Original Message-
From: a.ashfield
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 8:33 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:coding error
I started getting coding
The Plutocrats of the day wanted a march on Washington to overthrow FDR as
secretly led by them. Congress held hearings and supposedly investigated but as
with modern day TBTJ banks (suggesting snipers for the Occupy movement and
paying for police ‘charities’ in appreciation of their future
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