Re: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

http://www.nature.com/articles/srep02607 Cavity Optical Pulse Extraction: ultra-short pulse generation as seeded Hawking radiation This article shows how a Dark Mode optical cavity (which is what an SPP really is) can absorb light and store it, then later release it as Hawking radiation (heat)

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

Eric Walker wrote: > Jobs will be more esoteric, i.e. >> keeping an "eye" on things, deciding on the direction that development >> should >> take etc. In short providing a human perspective. >> > > Assuming the robots find our perspective to be a valuable and useful one.

[Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Robin-- You stated: When it comes to collisions, it makes little difference whether the nucleus is light or heavy. In short any nucleus is effectively an "immovable object" as far as an electron is concerned. Heavy nuclei are better at creating Bremsstrahlung, since they have more charge.

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:48 PM, wrote: Jobs will be more esoteric, i.e. > keeping an "eye" on things, deciding on the direction that development > should > take etc. In short providing a human perspective. > Assuming the robots find our perspective to be a valuable and

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung, characteristic X-Ray's Rydberg matter and Ions

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Stephen Cooke wrote: Once the metal atoms are excited into these high energy states, > particularly if the inner electrons are removed from their inner orbitals I > suppose further bremsstrahlung interactions of high energy electrons

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

wrote: > They will not require more materials than, say, the turbine, > >fuel tank, fuel regulator and ignition system in today's gas fired > >generator. They will not be more expensive. > > True, but where today such generators are a "minor" item, CF generators > will be >

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:00:40 -0500: Hi, [snip] > wrote: > >The point is that they will need to be manufactured at all, where today >> they are >> not. > > >They what? I have lost track of what you mean. Do you mean cold fusion >cells? They

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung, characteristic X-Ray's Rydberg matter and Ions

In reply to Stephen Cooke's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:33:51 +0100: Hi, [snip] >Once the metal atoms are excited into these high energy states, particularly >if the inner electrons are removed from their inner orbitals I suppose further >bremsstrahlung interactions of high energy electrons

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

wrote: The point is that they will need to be manufactured at all, where today > they are > not. They what? I have lost track of what you mean. Do you mean cold fusion cells? They will integrated into generators, the way a combustion heat engine is now. They will not

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:57:32 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Axil Axil wrote: > > >> Most E-Cat reactors will be produced using robots. >> > >Perhaps E-Cat reactors lend themselves to being produced by robots more >than, say, today's wind turbines do. In

Re: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Thanks Mark, That makes it clear and sounds like a good analysis. I will certainly stay tuned and am looking forward to the re-runs greatly. You are making very good and thorough analysis. Stephen > On 12 mrt. 2016, at 00:45, Mark Jurich wrote: > > Stephen Cooke

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:29:25 -0500: Hi, [snip] >I am afraid that analysis is incorrect. Manufacturing a cold fusion >generator will not require more labor or materials than manufacturing >something like a gas fired conventional electric generator. Manufacturing

Re: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

In reply to Bob Cook's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:46:42 -0800: Hi Bob, [snip] >Robin-- > >I think you are wrong about the nature of Bremsstrahlung. > >As I understand, the effect is caused by a charged particle changing its >course--being accelerated--in an electric field. It is not the

RE: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

A pulse, as described by Mark is consistent with the accumulation of a population of dense hydrogen, up to a threshold level, followed by a high energy event (could be nuclear or not). From: Mark Jurich Stephen Cooke wrote: “Was it confirmed the pulse was only a few seconds? I

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

One of the most interesting things to me about IH is that they don't seem to have exclusivity with Rossi. They are free to license technologies from other companies, and are thus free to be objective in the evaluation and presentation of these technologies. Their ship does not sink if Rossi's

[Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Stephen Cooke wrote: “Was it confirmed the pulse was only a few seconds? I thought they only spotted it in the spectrum at the end of longer session but are not sure exactly when and how long it lasted once initiated?” We (MFMP/myself) believe that there was a few second burst about 3

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

Jed, we have a certain amount of resources when it comes to the work force. Factors like how long work days shall we have, time lag between that the educational system can produce useful skills and when it could have been used and many other things will determine how much over capacity

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

Axil Axil wrote: > Most E-Cat reactors will be produced using robots. > Perhaps E-Cat reactors lend themselves to being produced by robots more than, say, today's wind turbines do. In that case, E-Cat reactors will reduce employment both in the manufacturing stage and also

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

It seems so; Rossi said this today on the JONP: Andrea Rossi March 11, 2016 at 1:57 PM Sebastian: Yes, obviously, as everybody knows, Industrial Heat has the license to manufacture the E-Cats in its Territory. Warm Regards, A.R. On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Axil Axil

Re: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Hi Axil a couple of quick questions? Was it confirmed the pulse was only a few seconds? I thought they only spotted it in the spectrum at the end of longer session but are not sure exactly when and how long it lasted once initiated? I have been trying to find papers and references on high

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Response to Jed. If the COP is less than one, I guess it will be VERY difficult to get funding for future development. Us with the limited imagination can hardly come to a decision to invest in new technology that hold no promises. Unfortunately, the type of education / experience people have is

[Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Robin-- I think you are wrong about the nature of Bremsstrahlung. As I understand, the effect is caused by a charged particle changing its course--being accelerated--in an electric field. It is not the mass of the particle but the charge of the stationary particle. Large nuclei have

Re: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

To the best of my understanding, the x-ray burst happens once at startup of a reactor run that can last for months. On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Russ George wrote: > A 1-2 second radiation burst in a detector is the 'norm' for capture of a > cosmic ray in lead! > >

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

The QuarkX will produce electricity. Heat production will minimized and be a waste product. The QuarkX will be produced in a similar way as a ITEL processor chip. Most E-Cat reactors will be produced using robots. On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: >

RE: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

A 1-2 second radiation burst in a detector is the 'norm' for capture of a cosmic ray in lead! -Original Message- From: Bob Cook [mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:05 PM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note Axil-- Bremsstrahlung

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung, characteristic X-Ray's Rydberg matter and Ions

Sorry a couple of time I said nuclei but I meant atoms. This is about electron atom interactions not nucleus excitations. Sent from my iPad > On 11 mrt. 2016, at 23:33, Stephen Cooke wrote: > > I'm wondering if there is an explanation for clean Bremsstrahlung

[Vo]:Bremsstrahlung, characteristic X-Ray's Rydberg matter and Ions

I'm wondering if there is an explanation for clean Bremsstrahlung emissions with out characteristic X-Rays apart from Axil's interesting explanation (which maybe the correct one) of broad spectrum emissions from SPP. First some well known background about Bremsstrahlung that I'm sure you are

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

wrote: > It will take only a few thousand people to implement. Most of them > >will be researchers, who are seldom paid much money. Cold fusion will wipe > >out an entire sector of the economy. Whether it will add new sectors > >remains to be seen. > > Someone has to work in

Re: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Something must produce those electrons and that something (Alpha. beta} produces EMF energy at a well defined gamma level. Bright mode release of "*photons*" from SPPs when they decay...before an SPP BEC becomes active. On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Bob Cook wrote:

[Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Axil-- Bremsstrahlung radiation is due to inelastic scattering of electrons as they pass through matter. There are no resonances. The radiations occurs as a result of an electron changing direction as a result of the electric field it is passing through. This change in direction

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:23:08 -0500: Hi, [snip] >From our point of view, the problem with this is that cold fusion will not >be labor-intensive. On the contrary, it will wipe out all jobs related to >energy. It will take only a few thousand people to implement.

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Sebastian March 11, 2016 at 1:46 PM Dear Andrea, You said that Leonardo Corp will not be the only one manufacturing E-Cats. Does that mean that one of your licensees will be manufacturing them? Regards Andrea Rossi March 11, 2016 at 1:57 PM Sebastian: Yes, obviously, as everybody knows,

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:51:52 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Does IH have manufacturing rights to the E-cat? What technology does >IH have the rights to? Where does IH get the fuel for the reactors >that they build. Can IH produce the fuel? Does Leonardo supply wafers >to IH?

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Does IH have manufacturing rights to the E-cat? What technology does IH have the rights to? Where does IH get the fuel for the reactors that they build. Can IH produce the fuel? Does Leonardo supply wafers to IH? Is Leonardo the only company that can manufacture the E Cat? Does anybody know the

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Lennart Thornros wrote: I think I said that the engineering will happen over many years to come. > I guess a COP of 0.02 would be like an Otto motor and not [too] attractive. > I would compare it to seeing a charged electric wire deflect a magnet in 1820, and from there

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:11:02 -0500: Hi, [snip] >One possibility is that Rossi is doing something that rankles IH, and >IH does not like it one bit. It goes like this: IH was all set to sell >the 1 MW plant, but Rossi discovered a better LENR tech. Rossi decides >to

Re: [Vo]:What was not said can be as important as what was said

I don't think it is accurate to state that Mills is promoting a financial scam on top of a real energy anomaly of the kind Thermacore showed in 1993. It is just maximizing investment to explore unknown and esoteric subjects in science. On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:17 PM, a.ashfield

Re: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Why does the burst last for just a second even when excess heat is produced after the radiation burst? On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:25 PM, wrote: > In reply to Bob Cook's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:34:55 -0800: > Hi, > [snip] >>The effectiveness of the SS can at stopping

[Vo]:LENR theory

Frank Acland March 11, 2016 at 2:26 PM Dear Andrea, 1. A big day! You say “I think I grasped in full the theory” — has it changed very much from you paper with Norman Cook? 2. Also, do you expect that your licensee IH will manufacture E-Cats in China? Many thanks! Frak Andrea Rossi March 11,

Re: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

In reply to Bob Cook's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:34:55 -0800: Hi, [snip] >The effectiveness of the SS can at stopping any high energy electrons that >cause Bremsstrahlung would depend upon the thickness of the can (or alumina) >and the energy of the incident electrons. I think the loss of

[Vo]:What was not said can be as important as what was said

Jones wrote: "The statement completely contradicts Lewan's assertion of Industrial Heat's involvement in the test." Krivit must be going blind as he wrote; "The statement mentions nothing about any test, let alone the test Lewan said Industrial Heat had been conducting during the past year."

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Hello Jed, I think I said that the engineering will happen over many years to come. I guess a COP of 0.02 would be like an Otto motor and not to attractive. It's better be over 1. I think well above so the inconsistencies which will be determined by 'scientists' with a better measuring technology

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

I think they are just doing a cover your ass statement to their investors, knowing that Rossi is about to release his results and they want to make sure that their investors know that the information is not coming from official IH sources just in case there is a problem a bit further down

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Lennart Thornros wrote: It is possible that the outcome, of Rossi's year long test, has less COP > than what for example Peter Gluck has heard. > If the IH statement is too calm down the expectations then so be it. > I would say that as long as the test shows a COP better

[Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Hi Bob: Back when Alan used a Nickel Capsule/Container (it’s now SS), I used SRIM/TRIM and assuming the possibility of 6 MeV Protons emanating from the core, I demonstrated that all the protons wouldn’t be stopped in the capsule. If it was slightly thicker, they would. This is not to say

Re: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

The seconds long MFMP X-ray burst is smooth and demonstrates no resonance energy peaks caused by the interaction of electrons with matter. The MFMP burst is strictly a release of photons in a random energy distribution. A Landau distribution is what we are seeing in the MFMP radiation plot. It is

Re: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Electrons may have nothing to do with the x-ray radiation. The radiation could be produced by photon based quasiparticles. The LENR reaction might start with Surface Plasmon Polaritons initiated nuclear reactions and then after thermalization, the decay of those SPPs. When the SPPs decay, they

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

It is possible that the outcome, of Rossi's year long test, has less COP than what for example Peter Gluck has heard. If the IH statement is too calm down the expectations then so be it. I would say that as long as the test shows a COP better than 2, there will be further investment and a lot of

Re: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

The effectiveness of the SS can at stopping any high energy electrons that cause Bremsstrahlung would depend upon the thickness of the can (or alumina) and the energy of the incident electrons. I think the loss of energy per scattering event is proportional to Z ^2 for the nucleus that is

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Hydrofusion wrote: New Investments Tom Darden, CEO of Industrial Heat, signed a cooperation agreement with a newly created strategic financial center in Beijing. The “Technology Ministry of Science and Innovation Park” will participate in technology transfer with 20 companies from the U.S. This

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

One possibility is that Rossi is doing something that rankles IH, and IH does not like it one bit. It goes like this: IH was all set to sell the 1 MW plant, but Rossi discovered a better LENR tech. Rossi decides to go with the new tech that requires more time to perfect. IH now must keep their

[Vo]:What was not said can be as important as what was said

Is Andrea Rossi the genius inventor that his dedicated followers believe, or is he a charlatan crackpot - on the verge of exposure? In my opinion it is neither, but first - what does his sponsor have to say? The following is a synopsis of a number of posts which have appeared this morning. New

[Vo]:Re: Larsen LENR theory of slow neutron production --

Larsen’s recent publication—identified in the link below—provides an interesting model for the production of slow neutrons from protons and electrons and similar reactions with deuterium.

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Peter Gluck wrote: > Ok, they want a bit more discipline- but have you idea what viable LENR > technology they could have beyond Rossi's ? > I wouldn't know about other technology. Based on the Lugano report, I do not think Rossi's technology is viable. I have not seen

RE: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

-Original Message- From: Harry If there is no "excess heat" but still something useful like the conversion of heat into electricity or light, Industrial Heat will have to undergo a name change... Maybe Industrial Light and Magic? ;-) LOL ... maybe it's all been a carefully

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Ok, they want a bit more discipline- but have you idea what viable LENR technology they could have beyond Rossi's ? We will see itoday if IH will reject Krivit's idea that they are divorcing from Rossi Rossi has rejected it clearly. Peter On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

If there is no "excess heat" but still something useful like the conversion of heat into electricity or light, Industrial Heat will have to undergo a name change. Maybe Industrial Light and Magic? ;-) Harry On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > Too

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Peter Gluck wrote: Too unclear and this has allowed Krivit to publish his variant of the > story- IH- Rossi divorce. > I agree the statement as a whole is somewhat unclear, but this part is easy to understand. It says that if Rossi publishes a report independent of

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Too unclear and this has allowed Krivit to publish his variant of the story- IH- Rossi divorce. Peter On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Craig Haynie wrote: > > Reading between the lines... Does it sound like they're

[Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Craig Haynie wrote: Reading between the lines... Does it sound like they're preparing us for > a negative report on Rossi's one year test? > It does sound that way. The statement is oblique, but clearly it is intended to reduce excitement and dial back people's

RE: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

Bob, There is simply too little nickel. If looking for bremsstrahlung, and in the absence of gamma - a possible source of high speed electrons would be muon decay. At least this would be true in a situation like the glow-tube, where dense hydrogen would be expected to form. If the

Re: [Vo]: Radon not a likely explanation for GS5.2

Bob, On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Bob Higgins wrote: I can re-load the data and check more closely that the 77 keV and 1.13 keV > peaks were scaled to their correct locations, but I think they look > approximately correct. > I don't think it's necessary. I had a

[Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

I don't know if other Vorts thought of this already... but I had a minor epiphany regarding the radiation that MFMP measured in GS5.2. We identified this radiation tentatively as bremsstrahlung. This has certain implications. Bremsstrahlung requires that the high speed electrons impact on a

[Vo]:Industrial Heat's statement not clear, Steve Krivi says it is about IH-Rossi divorce

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/03/mar-11-2016-in-lenr-too-lack-of-clarity.html I have decided to publish this before the parts answer and explain- and we will follow the developments Interesting times. ERV please hurry! Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania

Re: [Vo]: Radon not a likely explanation for GS5.2

Eric, I know the 610 keV peak is right where it should be. The scaling was done as a single multiplicative scale based on the 2.2 MeV peak in the source graph (I.E. 2-point scaling was not done). Once it was scaled, since the 610 keV peak was in the correct place, I presumed the others had been