Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:31 PM, H LV wrote: I wrote: > > > Notice that the amount of 58Ni increased by 1% and the amount of 60Ni > > increased by 0.8%. > > In total this equals the 1.8% decrease in the amount of 64Ni. > > I was refering to slide 14 in this link: > That

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

I wrote: > Notice that the amount of 58Ni increased by 1% and the amount of 60Ni > increased by 0.8%. > In total this equals the 1.8% decrease in the amount of 64Ni. I was refering to slide 14 in this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Pc25a4cOM2cHBha0RLbUo5ZVU/view?pref=2=1 Harry

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

Notice that the amount of 58Ni increased by 1% and the amount of 60Ni increased by 0.8%. In total this equals the 1.8% decrease in the amount of 64Ni. Harry On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:49 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Bob Higgins

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Bob Higgins wrote: First of all, it is reasonable to presume that any Zn contamination would > have a natural isotopic ratio. The natural abundance for 64Ni is 0.9%. > So, for the reported 4.4% of m=64 to be 64Zn + natural 64Ni, there

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Robert Dorr wrote: They made the statement ". . . Embracing failure as well as success is > important, because we learn from both. . . ." , before the ERV's report was > out. They didn't know what the ERV was going to say. My take on this >

Re: [Vo]:The LENR triad and zinc volatility

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Jones Beene wrote: If there is a nuclear decay reaction responsible for the thermal anomaly, > then 64Cu is the “swing element” in the triad - and has a half-life of > about 12 hours. It can beta decay by positron emission to 64Ni, or more >

RE: [Vo]: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

Robin, After tossing around all the possibilities of the Sochi results, beta decay appears not to fit the data very well. The isotope anomaly at mass 64 is possibly not significant other than to show that a few percent zinc was a contaminant. Zinc could be involved in a role as a Mills catalyst.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

They made the statement ". . . Embracing failure as well as success is important, because we learn from both. . . ." , before the ERV's report was out. They didn't know what the ERV was going to say. My take on this statement was that they were trying to mitigate negative public reaction to

Re: [Vo]: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 28 Mar 2016 19:45:28 -0700: Hi, [snip] >This would be good news if true, since zinc is relatively cheap and beta decay >is easily shielded. I suspect that it in fact decays via double electron capture directly to 64Ni. If so, you might not get any

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

Rossi's definition of 3rd party is somewhat exotic.

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

Hi Bob, Again, “how the zinc got there” is probably an unsolvable mystery, but contamination can come from unexpected places. It may still amount to serendipity. Recently an acute observer of the details of this situation has mentioned to me off-list that Parkhomov added zinc oxide to his

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

Jones, While all of this Zn speculation is an interesting theory/hypothesis, it stemmed from a completely improbable hypothesis - that the 4.4% of measured 64Ni was due to contamination by Zn in Parkhomov's Sochi analyses. First of all, it is reasonable to presume that any Zn contamination would

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

Jed, I don't read IH's statement the way you see it. It could just as well been because Krivit claimed in New Energy Times that IH and Rossi had parted company. If Rossi releases the ERV report or even the synopsis, giving the credentials of the ERV that would be proof positive. I expect IH

RE: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

Jones, true to form you will remain a doubting Thomas until the better end. Rossi later said he would at least release the synopsis of the ERV report in ten days. April Fool jokes only take place on April 1. I suppose as you have consistently libeled Rossi and called him a fraud it is now

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

The recent realization that zinc fits the role as an ideal vapor-phase catalyst for hydrogen densification should be emphasized, so bear with me until the point is fully belabored. J This is about using zinc with nickel as a catalyst in the context of a hot reactor like the Parkhomov Sochi

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

Jones Beene wrote: Didn’t everyone expect that it had to magically appear just in time to be > released on April 1. > > > > It will be an absurd charade unless Industrial Heat signs off on it. > As far as I can tell, they have already repudiated it in their March 10

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

Yes, Jones it would be magical - or someone has a sense of humor:) Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

IH may delay release until all the investors have sold their energy stocks. That might take awhile. On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Didn’t everyone expect that it had to magically appear just in time to be > released on April 1. > > > > It will be an

RE: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

Didn’t everyone expect that it had to magically appear just in time to be released on April 1. It will be an absurd charade unless Industrial Heat signs off on it. From: Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Revised report from Zhang

By the way, you can see a high-res version of the photo of the reactor during the test here: http://lenr-canr.org/images/ZhangReactorduringtest.jpg

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

Axil Axil quoted Rossi: > > ERV is an acronym used in contracts wherein tests have to be made. It > stays for Expert Responsible for Evaluation. It is always a third entity. > Ah, thanks. I looked up ERV and found: Estimated Recovery Value Expiratory Reserve Volume I

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

Andrea Rossi February 21, 2016 at 9:31 AM Alessandro Coppi: ERV is an acronym used in contracts wherein tests have to be made. It stays for Expert Responsible for Evaluation. It is always a third entity. Warm Regards, A.R. On

[Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

See: https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/2927-WE-HAVE-RECEIVED-RIGHT-NOW-THE-ERV%E2%80%99S-REPORT-Rossi/ Does anyone know what "ERV" stands for? - Jed

[Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

Results still not revealed, Rossi very pleased. Interesting things will happen. COP global, power density etc.??? Truly yours, Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Revised report from Zhang

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ZhangHtestofabno.pdf http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ZhangHtestofabnoa.pdf Index of most recent papers: http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1097

RE: [Vo]:The LENR triad and zinc volatility

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160324154016.htm something about the use of a gel to form a uniform powder in most reactive form might be applicable to LENR triad as well? Fran From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 10:07 AM To:

[Vo]:the future of LENR will be marked by entangled transdisciplinarity

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/03/mar-29-2016-dear-lenr-you-really-need.html This time, I hope: many of you plus the future will agree with this idea. "See" you tomorrow Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

Bob - I’m simply trying to present options at this point. It is impossible to draw any valid conclusions since the data is conflicting. Zinc would be less compelling as a reactant if it were not a Mills catalyst with the lowest Rydberg “hole” in addition to its volatility. Thus it can **do

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

Hi Bob, On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Bob Cook wrote: If I am not wrong, the laser activation indicates Zn is 0.004 mass % vs > the suggested 4%—more than an order of magnitude LOW!—more like 3 orders > Low! I checked the table of mass % and it adds to 100

[Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickelJones-- Your argument about Zn volatility has some merit. However, from the data it would appear that the Zn in the “before reaction” laser activation test migrated to the cooler parts of the reactor and were not measured in the

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

Bob, If a particular test or type of analysis is sampling the surface, but is done in such a way that a natural mechanism can bring mobile elements from deep inside a structure up to the surface, then the more volatile components could appear to have much higher concentration than they should.

[Vo]:The LENR triad and zinc volatility

Three transition metal elements have an inter-connection and cross-identity to a mass of 64 a.m.u. - and to anomalous energy. One of them is volatile. The LENR triad consists of nickel, zinc and copper. All three can arguably be connected to energy release in the LENR reactions which are labeled

[Vo]:Revised report from Zhang

See: Test of Abnormal Heat in Hydrogen Loaded Metal https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Attachment/543-ZhangHangReplication-English-v3-pdf/ I plan to upload this to LENR-CANR.org after making a few revisions requested by the author. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

Quote from Miley on Zinc posted on my web page Zero Point Technologies. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/wright.html

[Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

Eric-- If I am not wrong, the laser activation indicates Zn is 0.004 mass % vs the suggested 4%—more than an order of magnitude LOW!—more like 3 orders Low! I checked the table of mass % and it adds to 100 percent. Bob From: Eric Walker Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 8:10 PM To:

[Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

Jones-- The laser atomic activation tests did not show much Zn of any kind. The report indicates there was no Zn, Zn-64 or some other isotope of Zn. If AP is now correct he should also explain why the laser activations testing did not show an Zn to speak of. What he seems to say is that

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

Time dilation sounding plausible yet? :_) Fran From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 10:11 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel Bob Greenyer got this answer back from Parkhomov on the