RE: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-05 Thread Russ George
Gravity waves are indeed the means for SETI communication as they travel at e8 times the speed of light as Tom van Flandern showed the speed was at least 2xe10 c or more! While the usual suspects heaped dogmatic howls on Tom, his friend and mine J P Vigier was a staunch supporter of his

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-05 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 8:24 PM, Bob Higgins wrote: There is a more far fetched possibility - that of communications via > gravitational waves. There have been a number of papers talking about the > conversion of EM waves into gravitational waves in certain types of >

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-05 Thread Jones Beene
Our experience seems to marginalize the relevance of "noise" quip - at least in the case of SETI. It all goes back to the starting assumptions. Of course SETI operates under the assumption that ET wants to contact us, as opposed to us wanting to eavesdrop on them. We can reasonably assume

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Higgins wrote: Even more probable is the evolution to spread spectrum techniques. Look at > what has happened to a lot of our emissions - they have moved to spread > spectrum. This would no longer be detectable as an emission type that is > detectable by SETI

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: > There is another possibility, i.e. that the reason for the short window is > not > self destruction, but rather that they discover FTL communication > techniques, > and stop broadcasting using EMF. > Here are my hypotheses: 1. Data broadcast by people in RF and

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-05 Thread Bob Higgins
Even more probable is the evolution to spread spectrum techniques. Look at what has happened to a lot of our emissions - they have moved to spread spectrum. This would no longer be detectable as an emission type that is detectable by SETI technology. We may migrate largely to a communications

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 5 Jan 2017 08:16:05 -0800: Hi, [snip] >... estimate that there should be many advanced civilizations in the >Universe, a few of whom are close enough that we should be able to >communicate with them or at least catch glimpses of their broadcast

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 4 Jan 2017 13:14:21 -0800: Hi, [snip] >Even if neutrons were required for the most energetic kind of >weaponization, dense hydrogen is similar enough to the neutron that it >could substitute -- and in the case of Holmlid - exceed by orders of

RE: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy press release

2017-01-05 Thread bobcook39923
I wonder if Ni Nano particles are involved? Is there a patent in the USA for the IPB HHT? Bob Cook Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 1:29 PM To: Vortex Subject: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy press release See:

[Vo]:More mass in universe in black holes than stars!

2017-01-05 Thread Russ George
Curiosity got the best of me and looking at the ratio of stars to black holes, stars are ~1000 times more common. But black holes contain vast numbers of 'star equivalent mass', it looks like too close to call as to whether there is more mass in stars or black holes. Are black holes made up of

[Vo]:Brillouin Energy press release

2017-01-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/4795-Press-Release-BERKELEY-CLEAN-TECHNOLOGY-COMPANY-ANNOUNCES-BREAKTHROUGH-FOR-LENR-/ The press release begins: BERKELEY CLEAN TECHNOLOGY COMPANY ANNOUNCES BREAKTHROUGH FOR LENR POWER DEVICES Controllable-on-Demand, Reproducible,

[Vo]:learning LENR success from Vladimir Vysotskii

2017-01-05 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2017/01/jan-05-2017-lenr-success-learning-from.html peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-05 Thread Jones Beene
Well Given the new realities of 2017 - I suggest that you remove the free edition, but re-kindle it with info on Rossigate and the "dark side" thread, charge $9.99 and call it the *Special**Trump edition for a Brave New World.* Jed Rothwell wrote: Jones Beene wrote: First I

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > First I will give Jed a plug. This download to Kindle could be the best > buck you spend this year, even if you do not appreciate my contrarian > response to it: > > https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Fusion-Future-Jed-Rothwell- > ebook/dp/B001RTSHZS/ > That is

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-05 Thread Jones Beene
The Rothwellian theme (available on Kindle) which on closer examination perhaps is pre-Orwellian, can be called "the democratization of energy" ... but to the contrarian, it would explain an arcane detail which is troubling on several levels. ET can't call home. First I will give Jed a plug.