Re: [Vo]:So what has been discovered is not a new source of energy....

2012-12-19 Thread Harry Veeder
be interesting if you know of a reference from Rossi where he acknowledges that these two critical temperatures exist. Dave -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 6:21 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:So what has been

Re: [Vo]:Request about off-topic threads.

2012-12-18 Thread Harry Veeder
the sequence of on-off messages is a hidden message in binary code ;-) Harry On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote: Just please don't put anything about alternative energy in an off-topic

[Vo]:So what has been discovered is not a new source of energy....

2012-12-17 Thread Harry Veeder
... Instead Celani, Piantelli, Forcardi discovered that when nickel aborbs hygrodgen the thermal charactersitics of nickel change (by making it less reflective)? And Celani has discovered that this change is correlated with a drop in the electrical resistance of the nickle. Is that it? harry

Re: [Vo]:wow I think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder I suspect there is something important missing from this account. What prompted Moller to look at Langmuir's work in the firstplace? The impetus was that Moller

Re: [Vo]:So what has been discovered is not a new source of energy....

2012-12-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I do not think it is clear yet what has been discovered. The story so far: At ICCF17, McKubre called into question Celani's calorimetry. Celani said he would try to put these doubts to rest by making the cell self

Re: [Vo]:New Data Worrying 2000 climatologists about Global Warming ....

2012-12-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: Here's some new data that is worrying 2000 climatologists about Global Warming Obviously, since 2000 of them were right, this new data must be wrong. This first link shows the rate of ice melting leading to the

Re: [Vo]:New Data Worrying 2000 climatologists about Global Warming ....

2012-12-17 Thread Harry Veeder
to effect change. Harry - Original Message - From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:09 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Data Worrying 2000 climatologists about Global Warming I guess a true global temperature would be an average

Re: [Vo]:wow i think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-16 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: At 09:50 AM 12/16/2012, Jones Beene wrote: There are other Naudin sites which suffer the same problem. Jones I see that Sterling Allen's page on the MHG project by Naudin never benefited from an explanation

Re: [Vo]:tunneling in chemical reactions, esp. involving H transfer

2012-12-16 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Researchers at the University of Georgia in the US have discovered a possible form of tunneling in connection with chemical reactions, especially if hydrogen transfer is involved:

[Vo]:update: Ambient and T_Glassout are not entirely correlated now

2012-12-15 Thread Harry Veeder
update from quantumheat.org -- #46 Sanjeev 2012-12-15 23:05 Very unusual behavior. Ambient and T_Glassout are not entirely correlated now. There is a trend in last 10 hours. http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/follow/177-write-up-of-eu-cell-baselines enlarged view

Re: [Vo]:MFM Cell #2 Temperatures

2012-12-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: OK, when I compare the actual values of the running cell #2 with this calibration template, I can see that T_GlassIn is roughly the same, but both T_GlassOut and T_Mica are higher in the live test. Calibration Run from

[Vo]:MFMP: Temperature of inner glass surface.

2012-12-14 Thread Harry Veeder
The excess power estimate of the test run is based on a higher temperature reading of the outer surface of the glass as compared to a lower temperature reading during the calibration runs However, someone named ECCO has noticed that the temperature of the inner glass surface is the same in the

Re: [Vo]:MFMP: Temperature of inner glass surface.

2012-12-14 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/follow/177-write-up-of-eu-cell-baselines If the higher temperature on the outer surface is not an artifact, wouldn't you expect the inner

Re: [Vo]:Fw: Something Wrong With The Sun Moon Earth.

2012-12-14 Thread Harry Veeder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y7rtUHSolI harry

Re: [Vo]:MFM Project

2012-12-13 Thread Harry Veeder
An elecrochemical environment might simply be more complex and so the power produced is more erractic. A notable exception is heat after death when an electrolyte boils away and becomes more like a Celani wire in a gaseous environment. Harry On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:MFM Project

2012-12-13 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/13/2012 11:52 AM, Jones Beene wrote: You may personally not want to make this important distinction, but cold fusion obviously refers to fusion, most notably with deuterium - and this is only a fraction of what can

Re: [Vo]:OT (Holiday Spirit): Christmas Flash Mob... or Group Mind occasionally waking up?

2012-12-13 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:15 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:31:04 -0500: Hi, [snip] It's also not necessary to explain human behavior, AFAIK. Look, that resonance is ELF. Possible data rate, a few Hz, maybe. No mechanism known

[Vo]:Cap carbon emissions, pay dividends to everyone

2012-12-12 Thread Harry Veeder
Want the public to heed global warming threats? Cap carbon emissions, pay dividends to everyone http://bangordailynews.com/2012/12/11/opinion/want-the-public-to-heed-global-warming-threats-cap-carbon-emissions-pay-dividends-to-everyone/ This approach to reducing carbon emissions defines

Re: [Vo]:MFM Project

2012-12-12 Thread Harry Veeder
I am confused about the location(s). Where exactly is/are the Celani replications occuring? Harry On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-12-12 22:47, Craig wrote: The have 48 watts of input power now and are getting out 52 - 54 watts on

Re: [Vo]:Cap carbon emissions, pay dividends to everyone

2012-12-12 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Good idea! - Jed another good idea which will be ignored. ;-) Harry

Re: [Vo]:MFM Project

2012-12-12 Thread Harry Veeder
ok, thanks harry On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Arnaud Kodeck arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be wrote: Minnesota for US South of France for EU I am confused about the location(s). Where exactly is/are the Celani replications occuring? Harry

Re: [Vo]:MFM Project

2012-12-12 Thread Harry Veeder
Thanks. I hope they do the calorimetry soon. That should reveal or eliminate any possible heating artifact once and for all. harry On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-12-12 23:39, Harry Veeder wrote: I am confused about the location(s

Re: [Vo]:MFM Project

2012-12-12 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: At 04:47 PM 12/12/2012, Craig wrote: The have 48 watts of input power now and are getting out 52 - 54 watts on their conservative estimate. Their optimistic estimate shows them at around 67 - 70 watts out.

Re: [Vo]:Direct heating of Celani's wire at EU cell of MFMP

2012-12-12 Thread Harry Veeder
I wonder if Rossi has observed a similar breathing effect. Recalling the graph from his sept (?) 2011 demo reminds me of the first oscillation of the graph below. Rossi may have choosen to limit the length of his public demonstrations to conceal the oscillations and perhaps his diffiiculty in

Re: [Vo]:OT (Holiday Spirit): Christmas Flash Mob... or Group Mind occasionally waking up?

2012-12-10 Thread Harry Veeder
it would be interesting to track the position of one bird within the flock. harry On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: From Robin: ... In either case, it's obvious that each bird takes it's queues from the others in one way or

[Vo]:Celani's cell did NOT vary with pressure!

2012-12-09 Thread Harry Veeder
Celani's cell did NOT vary with pressure! on 08 December 2012. Dear world, We have an admission and an apology to make, on the upside, some very important developments have occurred as a result. When we first started seeing a correlation of sorts between Pxs and Pressure in the US cell, I

Re: [Vo]:Sasquatch Sequenced

2012-12-05 Thread Harry Veeder
quite the tongue twister. harry

Re: [Vo]:How bad is this news? Jed Rothwell

2012-12-05 Thread Harry Veeder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_the_other_cheek Scriptural reference The phrase originates from the Sermon on the Mount in the New Testament. In the Gospel of Matthew, an alternative for an eye for an eye is given by Jesus: 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and

[Vo]:They are not giving up

2012-12-03 Thread Harry Veeder
from quantumheat.org Let the Data Flood Commence! on 03 December 2012. I hope you are all ready for this, in the next couple of weeks we are all going to have an immense amount of data to work through and we are going to need your help looking for anomalies, patterns, features and most

[Vo]:NIST Experiments Challenge Fundamental Understanding of Electromagnetism

2012-12-02 Thread Harry Veeder
NIST Experiments Challenge Fundamental Understanding of Electromagnetism From NIST Tech Beat: November 27, 2012 A cornerstone of physics may require a rethink if findings at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) are confirmed. Recent experiments suggest* that the most

Re: [Vo]:Water Bridge-Electro Gravity ?

2012-11-28 Thread Harry Veeder
has anyone ever weighed the system before and during the applied voltage to look for anomlous changes in the weight/specific gravity of the water? Perhaps the water in the bridge weighs less than 'normal' water. Harry On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:What did Curiosity find?

2012-11-22 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:18 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Since the Vort Collective is not above instigating acts of rampant speculation I’ll throw in my own percentages: · 70% chance - Curiosity detected undeniable amounts of methane in

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Says .. (believe it or not)

2012-11-21 Thread Harry Veeder
and they are covered in barnacles harry On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Rossi has peers?

Re: [Vo]:NASA: We think we found something . . .

2012-11-21 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: I won't believe it until they send another Curiosity and run a blank test. I won't accept the result unless this second rover is built and operated by a group people with no affiliation to NASA. Harry

[Vo]:Heins Effect Gaining Credibility

2012-11-20 Thread Harry Veeder
Heins Effect Gaining Credibility Monday | March 19, 2012 http://evworld.com/blogs/index.cfm?authorid=279 'Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you will have to ram it down their throats.' -Howard Aiken, US computer scientist (1900 - 1973) Back in July of 2010 I wrote

Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature

2012-11-20 Thread Harry Veeder
radio beacons work in that range http://www.dxinfocentre.com/ndb.htm harry On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: There is an RF signal which appears to have a strong correlation to excess heating events in one kind of LENR. This is from a recent paper at

[Vo]:Stars may not be so fine-tuned after all

2012-11-18 Thread Harry Veeder
Stars may not be so fine-tuned after all A change in nature's fundamental constants could still allow star formation. Would stars light up the sky in other universes? It's often claimed that the fundamental constants of physics in our own Universe are exquisitely tuned to permit stars – and

Re: [Vo]:what if a diamond meteor hit the earth at the speed of light?

2012-11-17 Thread Harry Veeder
Experiment and find out! *evil laugh* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7edeOEuXdMU harry On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: A nice interlude for those waiting to see if Andrea Rossi is confirmed: If a meteor made out of diamond and 100 feet in diameter

Re: [Vo]:A $20 tablet computer from India

2012-11-12 Thread Harry Veeder
I hope this doesn't lead to a world where the poor must remain attached their tablets and be on call 24 hours day to cater to the whims of the upper classes so they simply can earn enough income to subsist... Harry On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:MFMP : Hydrogen Loading Started

2012-11-11 Thread Harry Veeder
hmm there is no like button to click. Harry On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Arnaud Kodeck arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be wrote: Don’t forget, the IP is owned by Celani and his team. Nevertheless, MFMP is doing a great job to

Re: [Vo]:The new normal

2012-11-10 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote Bottom line: it is looking like the new normal for chemistry is what was formerly 1COP2 and is not nuclear and not chemical - thus it can be called suprachemical. ...or infranuclear. ;-) harry

Re: [Vo]:Bladeless Turbine

2012-11-10 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Rob Dingemans manonbrid...@aim.com wrote: Hi, As far what I understand from it, it does work with a kind of piston in the middle of the dish in the same kind of way how a cylinder in an

Re: [Vo]:We should employ new methods of persuading the public

2012-11-08 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I am not sure that everyone can be convinced that the hypothetical CF device is real as you suggest. It would not have to convince everyone in the first round. We only need to

Re: [Vo]:We should employ new methods of persuading the public

2012-11-08 Thread Harry Veeder
Those young whippersnappers have a facebook page too: https://www.facebook.com/#!/MartinFleischmannMemorialProject Harry On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/follow/109-fast-paced-progress There is nothing new on the

Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?

2012-11-02 Thread Harry Veeder
- From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 3:18 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul? I agree that secularism is in crisis, but this doesn't mean we must return to a theocratic rule which is the danger implied by movements like

Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?

2012-11-02 Thread Harry Veeder
Which version of the bible is this?: 9. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. The city in which this happens may simply be cosmopolitan so many of the local

Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?

2012-11-02 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: Harry, it seems that you as well as other people are always concerned with imposing a theocratic rule. No one wants a theocratic rule, including me. I don't believe any Christian person is attempting to do that, so your

Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?

2012-11-01 Thread Harry Veeder
FYI Seevn part radio show called Myth of the Secular. This about part six. http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/episodes/2012/10/29/the-myth-of-the-secular-part-6/ In 1990 British theologian John Milbank published a five-hundred-page manifesto called Theology and Social Theory: Beyond Secular Reason. The

Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?

2012-11-01 Thread Harry Veeder
. Harry On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: FYI Seevn part radio show called Myth of the Secular. This about part six. http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/episodes/2012/10/29/the-myth-of-the-secular-part-6/ In 1990 British theologian John Milbank published a five

Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?

2012-11-01 Thread Harry Veeder
stories. Giovanni On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that secularism is in crisis, but this doesn't mean we must return to a theocratic rule which is the danger implied by movements like radical orthodoxy. Secularism neeeds a more anthropological

Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?

2012-10-31 Thread Harry Veeder
I like Penrose. IMO he is the most philosophically sophosticated physicist in academia today. I wonder ...did Penrose ever say anthing about CF? Harry On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: I love Roger Penrose great thinker. Hameroff is too out

[Vo]:Mischaracterizations of verdict against seismologists.

2012-10-29 Thread Harry Veeder
Mischaracterizations of the L'Aquila Lawsuit Verdict http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.cz/2012/10/mischaracterizations-of-laquila-lawsuit.html On March 31, 2009, in L’Aquila, six days before a deadly magnitude 6.3 earthquake killed 308 people, Bernardo De Bernardinis, then deputy chief of Italy’s

Re: [Vo]:Mischaracterizations of verdict against seismologists.

2012-10-29 Thread Harry Veeder
Did you read it? In the process of asserting themselves as the legitimate authorities on local seismological conditions, the seismologists appeared to *minimize* the risk of a major earthquake. One seismologist in an attempt to quell public alarm said the recent cluster of tremors *reduced* the

Re: [Vo]:A Halloween scare for real

2012-10-28 Thread Harry Veeder
A capitalistic forms of economic exploitation and domination can be reproduced endlessly thanks to 'innovation'. Harry On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: Your vision is quite common but I think it is incomplete and typical of countries experiencing slow

Re: [Vo]:A Halloween scare for real

2012-10-28 Thread Harry Veeder
before birth your future diploma, job, wealth, wife... Rich are poorer and poor are even poorer... but everydoby find it normal. sociologically that have some advantage, and it seems appreciated in some traditional society... especially by the predicted winners. 2012/10/28 Harry Veeder hveeder

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-25 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe they should research how Europe traded with Asia before the telegraph. Some of the trading occurred indirectly through intermediaries. Harry 2012/10/25 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com I've had it with

Re: [Vo]:New form or Radiation - the N-Ray saga

2012-10-23 Thread Harry Veeder
I can't let this go. Last year I posted this revealing investigation of how N-rays were debunked in an unprofessional, psuedo-scientific manner. An englishman plays the role of chief debunker. You should read it jones. Harry The Theatre of the Blind: Starring a Promethean Prankster, a Phoney

Re: [Vo]:New form or Radiation - the N-Ray saga

2012-10-23 Thread Harry Veeder
sorry it was an american, not an englishman. I should reread my own posts. ;-) Harry On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: I can't let this go. Last year I posted this revealing investigation of how N-rays were debunked in an unprofessional, psuedo

Re: [Vo]:New form or Radiation - the N-Ray saga

2012-10-23 Thread Harry Veeder
Jones, Sorry it was the american physicist Wood who did the debunking but if I remember correctly according to Malcolm Ashmore he went to france at the request of englishmen. Some browsers don't seem to handle pdf links well. The link works in google chrome if you copy and paste the link into

Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized

2012-10-17 Thread Harry Veeder
hatched out of the minds of lazy bums. Jojo - Original Message - From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized How does one measure hard work

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetically speaking ...

2012-10-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:56 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand and why so many people are suprised that to gain energy yo need to feed a little (less). It is classic for usual energy that you give energy first to settle the good condition of energy production.

Re: [Vo]:Clarke describes a future with unlimited abundance

2012-10-11 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUh_NSpiTsY so much of art...not all of it thank god, but a lot of it...has just become a kind of cruddy game for the self agrandisement of the rich and the ignorant...it is a kind of bad but useful business. Robert Hughes, art critic, 2008. Harry On Thu, Oct 11,

Re: [Vo]:Evidence V1 Has Left the Sol System

2012-10-09 Thread Harry Veeder
...but has Elvis has left the solar system? ;-) harry On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: http://blog.chron.com/sciguy/2012/10/more-evidence-that-voyager-has-exited-the-solar-system/ To cross this boundary scientists say they would need to observe three

Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized

2012-10-06 Thread Harry Veeder
Dictatorial Communism allocated resources through the control of prices and production. Calls for the redistribution income in a free market system is nothing like this. Harry On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: The Internet also say so- see for example:

[Vo]:Prize Fight

2012-10-06 Thread Harry Veeder
Prize Fight (audio interview) http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/episode/2012/10/06/october-6-2012/#5 This coming week, the Nobel Prizes for 2012 will be announced at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden. Achievements will be recognized in scientific fields, including medicine, physics and

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-03 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: e) There are multiple reports of NiH generating excess energy (So Rossi must be faking something real?) That's the point I was trying to make when I noted there have been many

Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized

2012-10-03 Thread Harry Veeder
How does one measure hard work? How much harder does Bill Gates work in comparison to someone who works two jobs at minimum wage? Do you seriously he imagine he works 100 times harder if his income is 100 times greater? Do you believe a man with backhoe works 100 times harder than a man with

[Vo]:Martian Pyramid

2012-09-26 Thread Harry Veeder
Tiny pyramid discovered on Mars... http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/storm_watch_stories3stormfile=Curiosity_discovers_martian_pyrmaid_21_09_2012 therefore Martians are tiny. Harry

Re: [Vo]:Overunity LED?

2012-09-22 Thread Harry Veeder
Ordinarily it takes energy to fall below ambient temperature, so it must stealing energy from the electrical input that would have been used for photon production. Unless it is violating the laws of thermodynamics, it must become less efficient at producing photons as it cools. harry On Sat,

[Vo]:example of a bad prognostistication

2012-09-22 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/oconnell/astr121/comte.html On the subject of stars, all investigations which are not ultimately reducible to simple visual observations are ... necessarily denied to us. While we can conceive of the possibility of determining their shapes, their sizes, and

Re: [Vo]:example of a bad prognostistication

2012-09-22 Thread Harry Veeder
Please ignore the example of bad spelling in the subject line. harry On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/oconnell/astr121/comte.html On the subject of stars, all investigations which are not ultimately reducible

[Vo]:The Believers

2012-09-20 Thread Harry Veeder
World Premiere of The Believers October 16 and October 20, 2012 https://www.facebook.com/thebelieversmovie About 20 years ago, they said they could change the world. Some people still believe them. Description The second feature-length documentary from Chicago-based 137 Films, whose mission is

Re: [Vo]:free energy rap

2012-09-17 Thread Harry Veeder
The art of rehtoric http://youtu.be/2q4_M3J-N3o Ethos, Logos, Pathos Harry

Re: [Vo]:free energy rap

2012-09-17 Thread Harry Veeder
, Harry Veeder wrote: FREE ENERGY - LUMINARIES ft. Aishah [ELEVATE SOLUTION SERIES] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2l5Z9T_x8A professionally produced rap video about free energy. nearly 80,000 hits Harry

Re: [Vo]:free energy rap

2012-09-17 Thread Harry Veeder
yw harry On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Ruby r...@hush.com wrote: Thanks for this Harry. I put it up on our front page. Jammin great find! On 9/16/12 2:37 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: FREE ENERGY - LUMINARIES ft. Aishah [ELEVATE SOLUTION SERIES] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2l5Z9T_x8A

Re: [Vo]:free energy rap

2012-09-17 Thread Harry Veeder
...and that should be enough to expect from such video. harry On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: A video like this only raises awareness. It gets people thinking that is all. harry

[Vo]:free energy rap

2012-09-16 Thread Harry Veeder
FREE ENERGY - LUMINARIES ft. Aishah [ELEVATE SOLUTION SERIES] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2l5Z9T_x8A professionally produced rap video about free energy. nearly 80,000 hits Harry

Re: [Vo]:Sims

2012-09-14 Thread Harry Veeder
so why isn't the experiment and quantum mechanics just another part of simulation? harry On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting article: http://www.vice.com/read/whoa-dude-are-we-inside-a-computer-right-now-329-v19n9 excerpt: The other

Re: [Vo]:no evidence yet of safety certificate.

2012-09-13 Thread Harry Veeder
I think so, because newbogusenergybricolage sounds like an allusion to Kirvit's newenergytimes.com. harry On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Is he saying that S. Krivit and “Gary Wright” are one and the same individual? From: Alan J Fletcher .

Re: [Vo]:How can the Wikipedia process be so good if does not work?

2012-09-12 Thread Harry Veeder
refer-a-pedia wiki-ference On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: I agree Eric; but, I use wikipedia a little differently from most. I use it as a reference source, rarely quoting wiki together because the truth is volatile there; but, the reference base at

Re: [Vo]:How can the Wikipedia process be so good if does not work?

2012-09-12 Thread Harry Veeder
Perhaps all the very controversial subjects from the current wikipedia should be removed and placed in a distinct wikipedia dedicated to very controversial subjects. harry On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: As I said, Wikipedia is good for some things

Re: [Vo]:How can the Wikipedia process be so good if does not work?

2012-09-12 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps all the very controversial subjects from the current wikipedia should be removed and placed in a distinct wikipedia dedicated to very controversial subjects. I do

Re: [Vo]:How can the Wikipedia process be so good if does not work?

2012-09-12 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: If the subject is controversial, you can [have] two articles, one by supporters, and one by opponents. Why not? This is against the rules in Wikipedia. They insist that people reach a compromise taking into

[Vo]:no evidence yet of safety certificate.

2012-09-12 Thread Harry Veeder
This blog called Shut down Rossi can't find any evidence that safety certificate was issue by SGS as Rossi claims. http://shutdownrossi.com/?page_id=1774 I suppose it is possible that the certificate was issued under a different company name because SGS only confirms that a certificate was not

Re: [Vo]:Perpetual motion machine. New idea!

2012-09-11 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, there was some discussion about this alleged perpetual motion machine. It was elegant, perhaps too elegant, and therefore it is probably a fake. Evolution of perpetual motion

Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at different temperatures?

2012-09-11 Thread Harry Veeder
For my own edification I continued to think about the issue of potential energy gain and loss and I realise it depends on the interatomic forces within the spring. Cooling the compressed spring reduces the vibrations of the atoms in the spring, and allows the interatomic forces to strengthen

Re: [Vo]:Hot-Cat fails test, Swedish investors withdraw, Rossi input power measurements dodgy?

2012-09-10 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Take Home Lesson: Do not dismiss or underestimate a fanatical creative genius who works 14 hours a day. Strange and disagreeable people such as Edison, Steve Jobs or Rossi may have reality distortion fields but they

[Vo]:picture: solder spring dipped in liquid nitrogen

2012-09-08 Thread Harry Veeder
FYI spring made from solder dipped in liquid nitrogen http://members.mrtc.com/anvk/cryogenics/cryogenics.html#spring harry

[Vo]:Nitinol and the modulus of elasticity

2012-09-08 Thread Harry Veeder
(This is a resend with a correction. It seems the original message did not get through to vortex. In the original message and earlier messages I used the term _stiffness_ instead of the more accurate term _modulus of elasticity_.Stiffness depends on the shape of the material, but the modulus of

Re: [Vo]:picture: solder spring dipped in liquid nitrogen

2012-09-08 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: FYI spring made from solder dipped in liquid nitrogen http://members.mrtc.com/anvk/cryogenics/cryogenics.html#spring harry btw, the picture shows how a solder spring is easily stretched by its own weight unless

[Vo]:Nitinol and the property of stiffness

2012-09-08 Thread Harry Veeder
Jouni equates the stiffening of the spring by the cold bath with the shape changing behaviour of nitinol. However, I think the stiffness of a wire is a property which is independent of the wire's shape. Consider two short lengths of _straight_ wire. One is made from copper and one is made from

Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at different temperatures?

2012-09-08 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 September 2012 06:55, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: When that system is submerged in the cold bath, the spring will become stiffer and this will translate into more pressure on the ends of the box

Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at different temperatures?

2012-09-08 Thread Harry Veeder
I would still like to know what SMA... means. harry On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Harry may be setting you up for SMA...

Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at different temperatures?

2012-09-08 Thread Harry Veeder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape-memory_alloy -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder I would still like to know what SMA... means. harry

Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at different temperatures?

2012-09-07 Thread Harry Veeder
and is returned when the heat energy is extracted by cooling. From the standpoint of CoE all forms of energy equilavent, but the spring example suggests they are not equivalent. harry -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Sep 6

Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at different temperatures?

2012-09-07 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: At 08:16 PM 9/6/2012, Harry Veeder wrote: If a spring is compressed by a force at room temperature, the spring will return to its original length once the force is removed. In the language of CoE the compressed

Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at different temperatures?

2012-09-07 Thread Harry Veeder
wow, so who (or what) killed the nitinol heat engine? and what does SMA mean? This nitinol machine converts heat into mechanical energy. What I am exploring is a sort of anti-heat engine - the destruction of mechanical energy by cold. harry On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Jones Beene

Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at different temperatures?

2012-09-07 Thread Harry Veeder
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax asked: You could create a much simpler violation. You slip a rectangular box of the right size over the compressed spring, so it can't return to its original size. Where did the potential energy go? I answered, It is still present because the box is performing the same

Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at different temperatures?

2012-09-07 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax asked: You could create a much simpler violation. You slip a rectangular box of the right size over the compressed spring, so it can't return to its original size. Where did the potential energy go

Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at different temperatures?

2012-09-07 Thread Harry Veeder
it with magnetic shielding. harry On 7 September 2012 04:16, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: If a spring is compressed by a force at room temperature, the spring will return to its original length once the force is removed. In the language of CoE the compressed spring is said to store

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