Re: [Vo]:Steorn Bombshell - Orbo was all a sign error!

2011-11-12 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Even if it is a loss, why is one direction better at turning motion into heat? Conventional theory predicts the same loss. Everyone

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Bombshell - Orbo was all a sign error!

2011-11-12 Thread Harry Veeder
the symmetric/asymmetric parameters since they aren't mentioned in your summary. Harry On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 3:09 AM, jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au wrote: On 11/12/2011 11:50 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: I think Steorn stumbled upon a real anomally but they erred in assuming that measurement alone

Re: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls

2011-11-11 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if I had been so confident that cold fusion or LENR or what ever you want to call it is impossible, I would feel quite foolish at the moment.  He spent many years of his career making fun of the serious researchers

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat web site up

2011-11-11 Thread Harry Veeder
If Steorn was operating a scam, why have they not been charged? Harry On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote: Nice to see the web site is registered to Rossi but what the heck

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat web site up

2011-11-11 Thread Harry Veeder
I think Steorn stumbled upon a real anomally but they erred in assuming that measurement alone was sufficient to demonstrate the reality of energy creation. Harry at 9:34 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comwrote

Re: [Vo]:Food for thought?

2011-11-10 Thread Harry Veeder
Energy is primarly the stuff of dreams, and dreams are not limited by the laws of nature. Harry On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Need a break from Rossi madness? Slow slide into crazy? Do  you know about the Mental illness happy hour? Well those guys

Re: [Vo]:Report On A Conversation With George Miley

2011-11-09 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: David ledin mathematic.analy...@gmail.com wrote: Report On A Conversation With George Miley http://e-catsite.com/2011/11/08/report-on-a-conversation-with-george-miley/ That looks impressive with the slides added.

[Vo]:200 ft long engineered electrical arcs

2011-11-09 Thread Harry Veeder
High-voltage engineers create nearly 200-foot-long electrical arcs using less energy than before. http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-extra-long-electrical-arcs-energy.html I wonder if they looked for neutrons from the exploding wires. Harry

[Vo]:Robert Goddard

2011-11-09 Thread Harry Veeder
‘It is difficult to say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow.’ — Robert Goddard Harry

Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto

2011-11-07 Thread Harry Veeder
I have to side with Stephen and Terry on this point. Rossi has mad these statements publically so he bears some responsiblity for the expectations he generates. He may not yet be legally accountably, but he is morally accountable at this time, regardless of his personality issues. Harry On Mon,

Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto

2011-11-07 Thread Harry Veeder
If Obama announced publically that he formulates his best policy just after sex, we would all speculate about his love life. Harry On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:54 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Jed sez: ... I see no point in speculating about people's private

Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto

2011-11-07 Thread Harry Veeder
Didn't Rossi say he was going to reveal his theory around this time? Harry On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:51 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Goodness gracious me! It would seem that we are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find anything to argue about. Guess

[Vo]:Elementary, dear Copernicus!

2011-11-06 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2058054/Elementary-dear-Copernicus-Three-new-members-join-periodic-table.html?mid=52070 Elementary, dear Copernicus! Three new members join the Periodic Table By Anthony Bond Last updated at 9:08 PM on 5th November 2011 Schoolchildren now have a

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on IRH

2011-11-05 Thread Harry Veeder
IRH sounds like an atomic version of a geocentric solar system. Harry On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 5:47 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi, It just occurred to me that in IRH the proton is revolving very fast around the electron. The back of an envelope yields a kinetic energy of 291 eV. With

Re: [Vo]:Thermophotovoltaic systems - Another way to use heat from an ECat

2011-11-04 Thread Harry Veeder
temperatures instead of at 5000k. It would be similar to phosphorescence. harry On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Thermophotovoltaic systems could provide another way of converting the heat from ECat into electricity. Or if you just want light

[Vo]:OT: Celestial Dreaming

2011-11-04 Thread Harry Veeder
Cold star http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/C​old_star Location: The Dream Lord's dream world Appearances: DW: Amy's Choice A cold star was a celestial object that existed in a dream shared by Rory Williams, Amy Pond, and the Eleventh Doctor, created by psychic pollen that had become lodged in the

[Vo]:Does Rossi's E-Cat Work? There is Only One Way to Find Out

2011-11-03 Thread Harry Veeder
Does Rossi's E-Cat Work? There is Only One Way to Find Out The past few days have seen the Rossi E-Cat reported in both news and blogs, with still no definitive answer if the device actually works. The process of introducing the device to the market is stirring up lots of controversy. So, how

[Vo]:Thermophotovoltaic systems - Another way to use heat from an ECat

2011-11-03 Thread Harry Veeder
Thermophotovoltaic systems could provide another way of converting the heat from ECat into electricity. Or if you just want light then there is no need to make electricity. Imagine a flashlight powered by a minature eCat. http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=16945ch=nanotech I

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

2011-11-02 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: On 11-11-01 09:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: Since the pump rate was constant, that means the power level was constant with a precision of +/- 0.09 percent.   (That's 9/100

[Vo]:Nature's laws may vary across the Universe

2011-10-31 Thread Harry Veeder
Nature's laws may vary across the Universe http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-10-nature-laws-vary-universe.html I have arrived at the opinion that the set of axioms known as the laws of nature need only apply to our measuring instruments. Our instruments should work according to such axioms,

[Vo]:OT: an engineer's guide to cats

2011-10-31 Thread Harry Veeder
I think this engineer's guide to cats is the next best thing until an engineer's guide to ecats becomes available. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHXBL6bzAR4 Harry

[Vo]:iReport

2011-10-30 Thread Harry Veeder
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-696792 an 'iReport' about the eCat posted on CNN. Harry

Re: [Vo]:iReport

2011-10-30 Thread Harry Veeder
, such as Ferrari. This would be consistent with Rossi's hint that the company tends to do a lot of work in secret. Then again many companies to do some of their best work in secret. Harry On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Harry Veeder

[Vo]:OT: The Precariat

2011-10-25 Thread Harry Veeder
The Precariat – The new dangerous class http://www.policy-network.net/articles/4004/-The-Precariat-%E2%80%93-The-new-dangerous-class For the first time in history, the mainstream left has no progressive agenda. It has forgotten a basic principle. Every progressive political movement has been

[Vo]:OT: Nothing about us, without us!

2011-10-25 Thread Harry Veeder
Nothing about us, without us! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UjZyjFMUC8 water...education..air...free energy... Harry

[Vo]:'bad science'

2011-10-24 Thread Harry Veeder
The witty remarks on 'bad science' are worth reading in this welcome message to ICCF 17. http://www.iccf17.org/sub01.php (The message is an image file so I could not copy and past it) Harry

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread Harry Veeder
Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and eCat bubble... Harry

[Vo]:diathermic oil for heat transfer

2011-10-20 Thread Harry Veeder
Sorry if this was already mentioned, but Rossi said on his blog this week that he might use a diathermic oil for heat tranfer in later versions of the eCat. I cite this as an example: http://www.paratherm.com/InfoServices/index.asp?vendorid=6010gclid=CIWOoM_R96sCFULrKgodmX3PuA Harry

Re: [Vo]:S-C currents not DC?

2011-10-20 Thread Harry Veeder
is finite and there is penetration.  Consider also that true DC extends from time -infinity to +infinity as a constant.  Moving the superconductor in a magnetic field does create resistance because the supercurrents are not DC. Bob Higgins -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder

Re: [Vo]:diathermic oil for heat transfer

2011-10-20 Thread Harry Veeder
lately my brain has been crashing, so I don't read all the messages. Harry On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: sigh I must be on everyone's filter list. T On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-19 Thread Harry Veeder
Is it posible the RF signal is warming the superconductor just above the critical temperature so that it drops? Harry On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:48 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: A new understanding of flux pinning is the most important relation in 100 years.  The magnet floats on the

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-18 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:15 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com If the law of inertia is universally true, some sort of centripetal force is required to keep the disc revolving in a circle as it moves above the magnets. I can vaguely grasp how

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-17 Thread Harry Veeder
If the law of inertia is universally true, some sort of centripetal force is required to keep the disc revolving in a circle as it moves above the magnets. I can vaguely grasp how the phenomena of locking preserves the tilt of the disc, but how does locking bring about the necessary centripetal

Re: [Vo]:Why has Rossi to build a 1MW plant?

2011-10-17 Thread Harry Veeder
I suspect Rossi decided long ago that he wanted to build something big, and he pitched the idea of a 1MW plant to Defkalion They agreed to buy it from Rossi as long as Rossi could prove the plant was capable of operating safely several weeks before it was to be delivered. Harry On Mon, Oct 17,

Re: [Vo]:OrboCat

2011-10-16 Thread Harry Veeder
As you can hear from the nervous laughter in the video Steorn staff like to joke, but do you still think Steorn's Orbo is a joke? Harry On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Steorn has steeeammm heat:

[Vo]:Forcardi in a Bologna TED event

2011-10-14 Thread Harry Veeder
Forcardi in a Bologna TED event. http://www.tedxbologna.com/en/15-ottobre-2011-incontro-al-futuro/sergio-focardi/ Harry

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

2011-10-14 Thread Harry Veeder
If one use special relativity to sychronize clocks than the idea of absolute time is neither obselete nor erroneous. Harry On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: This is rather interesting, because if true, it would be the first real test that could

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

2011-10-14 Thread Harry Veeder
It doesn't matter that there is no sensible result on Earth. Universal time is an idea. It is not something you can know through your senses. Clocks don't comprehend the concept of universal time. They are just instruments for measuring (universal) time whose tick-rate is subject to various

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

2011-10-14 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: Using clocks in another frame (the GPS clocks) to synchronize the clocks in the rotating frame (on the surface of the earth) just adds confusion, it doesn't avoid the problem, which is fundamental.  In particular, if

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

2011-10-14 Thread Harry Veeder
It is like trying to eat correctly in the presence of the Queen. How should I hold that 'spoon' and when should I use it? Harry On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: Sure, but if

[Vo]:OT: Power of Making

2011-10-13 Thread Harry Veeder
-- Power of Making http://vimeo.com/2984 What do words like craft and skill mean in 2011? That is one of the questions that the exhibition ‘Power of Making’ seeks to answer. This film delves into the working lives of four makers: shoe designer Marloes ten Bhömer, crochet dermist Shauna

Re: [Vo]:More drama: open letter to Christos Stremmenos from Defkalion GT

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Veeder
I sometimes wonder if the breakup between Rossi and Defkalion is just a charade, like the demo Rossi made for Krivit. Harry On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:40 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Very interesting letter indeed. Regarding the following excerpt: In all

Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

2011-10-11 Thread Harry Veeder
Pour some boiling water into a thermos. For how long does the water continue to boil? Harry On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: Jed, Don't miss the fundamental argument of heat storage. Great care was taken to insulate the E-Cat, and keep heat

Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

2011-10-11 Thread Harry Veeder
How much power does this frequency device need? Harry On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: Do I get a device that generates frequencies? Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:16:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically

[Vo]:pictures, data, analysis of July 7 test of fatCat

2011-10-11 Thread Harry Veeder
On Oct.6th Passerini posted info and pics on his blog of the July 7th test with Stremmenos. http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/10/test-e-cat-7-luglio-2011.html You can see two fat eCats wrapped in black insulation. Evidently the fat eCat has been around since atleast the beginning of July. This

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting

2011-10-10 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Joe Catania zrosumg...@aol.com wrote: Jed I'm not going to bother to comment on your very flawed analysis. It dosen't seem you want us to agree. You don't believe that heat storage means the temperature rises?

[Vo]:Rossi on the placement of the thermocouple and other issues.

2011-10-10 Thread Harry Veeder
David Roberson October 8th, 2011 at 10:52 PM Dear Mr. Rossi, Your LENR test on October 6, 2011 should be listed as a historical event. I wonder if I might ask you to clarify one issue that the skeptics continue to bring up which you can settle quickly. My personal opinion is that the location

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik report on October 6th test

2011-10-09 Thread Harry Veeder
Castro? Castro! Just as I suspected. Rossi is part of a commie plot to undermine our way of life. Harry On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Craig Haynie wrote: I would like to point out that if it were a battery, then it would have been hidden and

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

2011-10-09 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Joe Catania zrosumg...@aol.com wrote: No the band heater is at 900C but that metal block talk was only for illustrative purposes. Newtons LAw is irrelevant. Newton's law governs passive heat loss, which is what this

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting

2011-10-09 Thread Harry Veeder
A thermal imaging camera would have made this visually clear to people who were not present and could not feel heat. Maybe bring one or a few such cameras to the next test? Harry On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: You can quibble about how

Re: [Vo]:OT: 000

2011-10-08 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: I never completed my secret agent course so I didn't get a positive integer

Re: [Vo]:[NET] E-Cat Test Demonstrates Energy Loss

2011-10-08 Thread Harry Veeder
hehe. Harry On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: It is not outside the laws of conventional physics that some or all of the initial input energy was converted to mass and temporarily

Re: [Vo]:Rossi 6 Oct Experiment Data - Preliminary Data Analysis

2011-10-08 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: . I can't help but think back to the idea that it's not heat which triggers the reaction, but rather an event which causes the molecules to vibrate at a certain frequency. I think Znidarsic holds this view and, if

Re: [Vo]:Blog comments re Oct 6 Fat Cat experment

2011-10-08 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: His [Rossi's]only goal is to do a test quickly and conveniently that he himself finds convincing. He does not care whether the observers have trouble understanding it. He never listens to suggestions made by experts

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik report on October 6th test

2011-10-07 Thread Harry Veeder
The lastest version of Steorn's 'orbo' technology also produces steam and uses nickel. I think Rossi and Steorn are both exploiting the same underlying phenomena, or they are both mistaken or ... Harry On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:59 AM, vorl bek vorl@antichef.com wrote: Maybe the secret source

Re: [Vo]:[NET] E-Cat Test Demonstrates Energy Loss

2011-10-07 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I posted this response, which I expect Krivit will not allow -- Krivit wrote: However, Rossi heated the device with 2.7 kilowatts of electricity for four hours in advance. This amounts to 38.88 megaJoules of energy. The

[Vo]:OT: 000

2011-10-07 Thread Harry Veeder
I never completed my secret agent course so I didn't get a positive integer. Harry Terry wrote: You should have used hveeder007. :-) On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Harry

[Vo]:test

2011-10-06 Thread Harry Veeder
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[Vo]:Free Work

2011-10-05 Thread Harry Veeder
In the comment section to Thane Heins video http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=W_wleUlcMK0 Thane cites some video demonstrations of the biot savart law: Here are a couple of great FREE WORK VIDEOS: Magnetic Force between Parallel Wires MIT Physics Demo -- Forces on a Current-Carrying Wire In

Re: [Vo]:Energy will be worth nothing in the future

2011-10-05 Thread Harry Veeder
Since the price of practically everything depends to a greter or lesser degree on the cost of energy, the price of fresh fruit and vegetables will drop. Economic policy will focus on deflation mangement instead of inflation mangement.    Harry    From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To:

Re: [Vo]:Free Work

2011-10-05 Thread Harry Veeder
Unfortunately, there's no such thing as a free lunch. Current flowing through a conductor creates an electromagnetic field.  Yes, you can exploit this electromagnetic field.  But, it is not free.  Think of it like a car alternator.  You always have your engine driving a belt, driving the

Re: [Vo]:Free Work

2011-10-05 Thread Harry Veeder
Robert and others, unless you intend to email me directly, please make sure the vortex address appears in the 'TO' box before you click send. When you choose to reply to my posts, it seems as if some code that was embedded by yahoo mail tells your mail software to reply to me instead of vortex.

Re: [Vo]:Free Work

2011-10-05 Thread Harry Veeder
From: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 5:25:31 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Free Work On 11-10-05 03:55 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: When the wires have nothing holding them together or apart there is no opposition. In any case you do

Re: [Vo]:Free Work

2011-10-05 Thread Harry Veeder
From: Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com To: hlvee...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:35:16 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Free Work /snip/ When the wires have nothing holding them together or apart there is no opposition. In any case you do not answer my question which I will

Re: [Vo]:Ecat.com is about steaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmm

2011-10-03 Thread Harry Veeder
for those who want more team heat. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0szHqIXQ2R8 Harry - Original Message - From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:59:54 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Ecat.com is about

Re: [Vo]:The 7 Stages of Robot Replacement

2011-10-01 Thread Harry Veeder
  A job can be objectional for reasons other than danger, tedium or toil. Robots will do jobs that people refuse to do as matter of religion or personal belief.   Of course, some jobs should not be performed by either a robot or a person for ethical reasons.   Harry From: OrionWorks - Steven V

[Vo]:Has Bill Gates come up with a safe, clean way to harness nuclear power?

2011-10-01 Thread Harry Veeder
Has Bill Gates come up with a safe, clean way to harness nuclear power? Mark Piesing reports on Gates's bold plan to start a new atomic age Friday, 30 September 2011 Move over Monty Burns, Bill Gates is coming. Not content with creating the software empire that we all love to hate today, the

[Vo]:Steorn: New Validation Tests?

2011-09-30 Thread Harry Veeder
I didn't follow the recent discussion of Steorn on vortext. Was this Sept. 14 2011 report from PESN the trigger? Harry   Steorn Drops Four Bombshell Documents Validating Orbo The Dublin based, Irish free energy company Steorn, has allowed PESN to view and report on four documents written by

[Vo]:OT: Novel Cats

2011-09-29 Thread Harry Veeder
Novelity can sometimes appear freakish.   Meet Frank and Louie:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zvxZF0dQLsfeature=related   Harry

[Vo]:Re: OT: Novel Cats

2011-09-29 Thread Harry Veeder
as well as my spelling. Harry From: Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:11:53 PM Subject: OT: Novel Cats Novelity can sometimes appear freakish. Meet Frank and Louie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

[Vo]:Re: OT: Novel Cats

2011-09-29 Thread Harry Veeder
  From: Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:14:24 PM Subject: [Vo]:Re: OT: Novel Cats as well as my spelling. Harry From: Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent

Re: [Vo]:Will Robots Steal Your Job?

2011-09-26 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 6:29:44 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Will Robots Steal Your Job? Robots will never earn any income. Are you sure a robot could never be

Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry

2011-09-25 Thread Harry Veeder
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 9:13:05 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry I do not understand why they intend to use a heat exchanger. Why not simply run water through the thing, the way they did in the 18-hour test

Re: [Vo]: Latest from Thane

2011-09-24 Thread Harry Veeder
-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: 'Harry Veeder' hlvee...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:28:08 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]: Latest from Thane Harry said: “However, I get the impression that the duration of the acceleration is effectively unlimited, but Thane limits it for safety reasons

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

2011-09-23 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/neutrinos-may-have-traveled-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/2011/09/23/gIQAo04HqK_blog.html   Post science writer Joel Achenbach says that he’s sticking with Einstein, at least for now, because: Einstein’s theory... isn’t based primarily on

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]: Latest from Thane

2011-09-22 Thread Harry Veeder
It is like an electric or gasoline vehicle accelerating without consuming more electricity or gasoline. The kinetic energy of the vehicle is increasing without increasing input energy. Now you could say this is merely because the engine was switched to a more energy efficient mode, but in that

[Vo]:Rossi comments on latest test

2011-09-21 Thread Harry Veeder
John Salinger September 21st, 2011 at 2:37 AM Dear Mr. Rossi, 1. You claim to have successfully measured the delta T of entering and exiting water of a secondary circuit on the 1 MW plant already, producing results in line with what has been observed earlier. Is this also the manner in which

Re: [Vo]:John Maddox, editor Nature magazine around 1989

2011-09-19 Thread Harry Veeder
For some context see 1:45 of this video posted by Steven Krivit.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Jp9L_6-BI   Harry From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:30:59 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:John Maddox, editor Nature magazine around 1989

[Vo]:Confirmation of Thane C. Heins' regenerative acceleration

2011-09-13 Thread Harry Veeder
Thane C Heins Replication, Confirming the Negative Lenz Effect http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzxc3Ai4T3A follow-up videos here: http://www.youtube.com/user/overunityguide   Harry

Re: [Vo]:I love Obama, great speach on jobs, patents too

2011-09-10 Thread Harry Veeder
From: Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 7:17:18 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:I love Obama, great speach on jobs, patents too 2011/9/9 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com: The engine that truly drives the growth of jobs in the US economy is

Re: [Vo]:Rossi quotes

2011-09-10 Thread Harry Veeder
Thanks for posting this. harry - Original Message - From: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 2:30:53 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi quotes On 2011-09-08 22:48, Alan J Fletcher wrote: This is interesting too:

[Vo]:Why We Crave Creativity but Reject Creative Ideas

2011-09-05 Thread Harry Veeder
Why We Crave Creativity but Reject Creative Ideas ScienceDaily (Sep. 3, 2011) — Most people view creativity as an asset -- until they come across a creative idea. That's because creativity not only reveals new perspectives; it promotes a sense of uncertainty. The next time your great idea at

Re: [Vo]:September 22 might be Rossi's final deadline

2011-09-01 Thread Harry Veeder
This was just posted on the facebook page _Cold Fusion Andrea Rossi Method_   Rossi has agreed to carry out tests at the NASA laboratories, beginning tomorrow, September 3. (???) energeticambientei Armando de Para posted: “Rossi ha accettato di effettuare delle prove presso i laboratori NASA,

Re: [Vo]:Corrections to heat after death calculations

2011-08-31 Thread Harry Veeder
  I didn't know it was possible to insult nature with just words. You can insult the Pope with just words.   Harry   From: Joe Catania zrosumg...@aol.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:35:15 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Corrections to heat after death calculations Not

[Vo]:Pictures by end of september?

2011-08-27 Thread Harry Veeder
  http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=4#comment-65991     * Enzo August 27th, 2011 at 2:58 PM Dear Dr Rossi I have been following your story since January with mixed feelings of skepticism and hope. In this blog many people ask questions about the progress of your work and I

Re: [Vo]: Rossi covered by Washingtom Times here in the U.S.

2011-08-22 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:05:46 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]: Rossi covered by Washingtom Times here in the U.S. Oops, my brain-fart! I got an email from a friend, clicked on the

Re: [Vo]:A New Reason to Go Green

2011-08-19 Thread Harry Veeder
Nick Palmer wrote:    Jouni Valkonen.   You didn't understand what I wrote. The main strawman you used was to suggest that climate science somehow ignores or knows nothing about the effects of forests and their potential to mitigate CO2 levels. You even implied a conspiracy to avoid

Re: [Vo]:Answering Krivit #3: eCat steam quality must be above 75% (above 4300 Watts)

2011-08-17 Thread Harry Veeder
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com Actually, that's not correct. Lewan apparently said that he noticed the same behavior with the sound each time he went to look at the steam outlet.   Where did he say that? That is news to me. I am not even aware of Lewan commenting on the

Re: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum

2011-08-15 Thread Harry Veeder
The dense neutral background must have effectively no inertia, otherwise stable orbits would soon collapse.   Harry From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:09:24 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum

[Vo]:U.S. Researcher Preparing Prototype Cars Powered by Heavy-Metal Thorium

2011-08-15 Thread Harry Veeder
  I found this link on the Cold Fusion Times website. What powers the laser that heats the thorium? Is this a parody? Harry   http://wardsauto.com/ar/thorium_power_car_110811/A U.S. company says it is getting closer to putting prototype electric cars on the road that will be powered by the

Re: [Vo]:Two papers re taxonomy,

2011-08-15 Thread Harry Veeder
From Peter Gluck's blog  http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/08/taxonomy-mon-amour.html   I am deeply disappointed and sad that in this so-called 21st Century my grandchildren learn at school about Noah’s Ark and NOT about Evolution.   Where do your grandchildren live?   Harry 

Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up

2011-08-14 Thread Harry Veeder
Governments and Corporations don't have to over rule public opinion,  as long as they can shape public opinion to suit their own interests. (Noam Chomosky's concept of manufactured consent). Also public opinion is often based on prejudice and ignorance and can take decades to change. (Eg.

[Vo]:October test will include test of smaller unit

2011-08-13 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 8:05:50 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:USA Partner + 1MW Test Heat water with a 1 MW heater with no state change?!?  OMG!  That's going to take a fire hydrant to get

[Vo]:OT: Odd message

2011-08-13 Thread Harry Veeder
Lately I've been recieving these odd messages (see blow) immediately after I send a message to vortex. They always say test passed. Any idea what is going on here?   Harry   - Original Message - From: Рванов Михаил i-...@yandex.ru To: hlvee...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Saturday,

Re: [Vo]:How to present arguments against cold fusion critics

2011-08-12 Thread Harry Veeder
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 3:12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:How to present arguments against cold fusion critics At 06:30 AM 8/11/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Therefore if someone knows some high impact

Re: [Vo]:Revisiting The Whipmag All-Magnet Motor, saga

2011-08-11 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 6:19:54 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Revisiting The Whipmag All-Magnet Motor, saga In reply to  Harry Veeder's message of Mon, 1 Aug 2011

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion clearly states that Rossi showed them how to make the powder

2011-08-11 Thread Harry Veeder
You can have a great kitchen and collect all the things you need to make bread, but unless your given instructions, or better still shown how to make bread you won't be able to make bread.   Harry From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011

[Vo]:NASA Researchers Put New Spin on Einstein's Relativity Theory

2011-08-10 Thread Harry Veeder
The article mentions using entanglement to synchronise clocks. This possiblity was mentioned by someone on this list. Harry   NASA Researchers Put New Spin on Einstein's Relativity Theory April 2, 2003 Albert Einstein might be astonished to learn that NASA physicists have applied his

[Vo]:Scoop of the last 22 years

2011-08-09 Thread Harry Veeder
http://22passi.blogspot.com/   COMING TONIGHT THE SCOOP OF THE LAST 22 YEARS, AND I SWEAR THAT I AM NOT JOKING. Oiled WELL YOUR CONNECTION SPEED TO DOWNLOAD THAT THERE ARE 22 OF MEGA STUFF, BUT WORTH IT !!!     Harry

Re: [Vo]:Scoop of the last 22 years

2011-08-09 Thread Harry Veeder
why does he link to IAEA ? I don't understand the google translation of Daniel's words. What is he quoting?   Harry From: Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 4:36:34 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Scoop of the last 22 years Luckily Daniele did not

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