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*From:* James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* jeudi 22 novembre 2012 22:21
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:25 experiments completed with borax and nickels
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It's hard to know where to begin here but let me just say this that
given the speed of sound
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d= v * t = v / f ( with v=1/f)
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5630/430E3 = 13.093E-3 m = 13.093 mm
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Arnaud
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*From:* James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* jeudi 22 novembre 2012 22:21
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:25 experiments
Jack,
Yes, you use a PWM signal and convert it in to an AC signal. For example
when PWM is 1, then it's + current, or if PWM is 0, then it's - current.
But if I understand, you need also a Zero current state as well. In this
case, the Power part of the schematic does not change. You keep
Arnaud,
Looks like 240V max and 4A max was used by Godes in phase 1. The RMS
current is 12 mA.
More recently, looks like his circuit has capacity up to 35A (doesn't
specify the voltage) and a minimum pulse width of 250 ns.
I'd be happy just replicating the phase I for now.
Looks like those
/430E3 = 13.093E-3 m = 13.093 mm
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Arnaud
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*Sent:* jeudi 22 novembre 2012 22:21
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*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:25 experiments completed with borax and nickels
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It's hard
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*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:25 experiments completed with borax and nickels
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It's hard to know where to begin here but let me just say this that
given the speed of sound
I can't resist jumping back in at this point. These full bridge devices are
mostly used as motor controllers. In such applications you just need to
turn it on and have it supply an appropriate AC signal while the motor is
running and then turn it off. There's never any need for fine control or
Thanks for explaining this Jeff. Did you see that he is using 2 cathodes?
What is the difference between the two?
Initially I was thinking about just trying to replicate his circuit, but
the F626-12 seems to be pretty hard to track down.
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Jeff Berkowitz
If you are referring to his Figure 3A - I don't *think* he's using two
cathodes. I think the image of two dots with two lines between them is
intended to convey that the cathode has physical extent - he describes it
somewhere as a grid of nickel wires (?) - and the Q pulses swing positive
and
Jeff,
Look at figure 9 on this page: http://www.rexresearch.com/godes/godes.htm
Two cathodes are shown. It almost looks like the 2 cathodes are
connected together at the bottom. Is he running the Q in a loop through
this, and the loading pulse through the anode do you think?
Here is some
I've made a very interesting simulation circuit in LTSpice. I started with
another template made by someone else outputting a simple DC pulse (using a
555 IC). In the simulation, I get high frequency AC (one sweep from
positive to negative and back to zero then dead space).
Here is a single
Anyone looking for an efficient low power electrical circuit for a number of
alternative energy uses - possibly electrolysis, but that is less certain -
should check out the latest joule ringer low power self-oscillating
circuits. In these circuits, potential and natural oscillation are in a
Yes, that figure is directly from the patent. I think we're on the same
page.
Figure 9 shows two cells: the real cell on the left and the control
(joule heat) cell on the right. Four wires are shown leaving the real cell.
The leftmost is a temperature sensor that runs to a data logger. The middle
Axil,
Yes, that is the plan. I'm still trying to understand exactly what Godes
does. It turns out to not be real easy to get a bipolar (AC) pulse at
~200V along with the loading DC. High frequency/high voltage AC is the key
at a specific pulse width to get the conductor skin effect (
http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjasqi=2ved=0CDAQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Flenr-canr.org%2Facrobat%2FGodesRcontrolled.pdfei=iV6uUL25CaeF0QHQqIG4DAusg=AFQjCNHuzrqKGBNAwRi7rIW-VMSkqLKLHAsig2=7Pt74QjBK5CUU6fNvN-1OQ
*Controlled Electron Capture and the Path Toward
Axil, absolutely right, yet I agree with Jack about the implementation.
When I did that LTSpice analysis of the simplified circuit, I was very
clear about how big a simplification it was for me to leave out the
isolation transformer and the loading current. The entire circuit as
described in the
While your humble opinions quite possibly directly follow from:
This is called reverse field current in plasma physics. It produces a
counter rotating plasmoid in the shape of a ring. The plasmoid moves
forward in a dielectric like a rolling smoke ring.
This premise is also an opinion and is not
As I previously
advisedhttp://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg73144.html
:
Look at the acoustics of the electrodes.
Since this advice seemed to make no impact on the discourse here at
vortex-l, let me expand:
Acoustic resonance in the metallic electrodes does have a reasonable
On the contrary James, at least two of us did look closely at this
possibility [electrode acoustics].
My associate went to trouble to find and download a mpeg sound file of a
bicycle bell of the same general size as Davey's, and plugged it into a
program for this kind of analysis - in fact it
It's hard to know where to begin here but let me just say this that given the
speed of sound in
nickelhttp://www.olympus-ims.com/en/ndt-tutorials/thickness-gage/appendices-velocities/
:
5630m/s
and 430kHz:
5630m/s;430kHz?mm
([5630 * meter] / second) * (430 * [kilo*hertz])^-1 ? milli*meter
=
Interesting. A U.S. nickel is 1.95mm thick.
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 1:21 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
It's hard to know where to begin here but let me just say this that given the
speed of sound in
: Re: [Vo]:25 experiments completed with borax and nickels
It's hard to know where to begin here but let me just say this that given
the
http://www.olympus-ims.com/en/ndt-tutorials/thickness-gage/appendices-veloc
ities/ speed of sound in nickel:
5630m/s
and 430kHz:
5630m/s;430kHz?mm
([5630
However a U.S. nickel is 75/25 copper/nickel. It might be possible to
figure out the speed of sound using information in this thread:
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=277330
I'll look at it later.
Jeff
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
d = distance
v = speed (vitesse in french)
t = time and f = frequency
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From: Arnaud Kodeck [mailto:arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be]
Sent: jeudi 22 novembre 2012 22:51
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:25 experiments completed with borax and nickels
James,
I've a problem
Jeff,
I don't think your scope would need that level of resolution. Godes
describes using the following: A 100MHz Fluke 196C oscilloscope meter.
Anyway, there is not a lot of info on the net about using PWM to make
bipolar pulses. Producing a DC pulse to those specs is not so difficult.
A
electrode to the
ground.
Arnaud
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From: Jack Cole [mailto:jcol...@gmail.com]
Sent: jeudi 22 novembre 2012 22:59
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:25 experiments completed with borax and nickels
Jeff,
I don't think your scope would need that level of resolution. Godes
You don't need a high speed scope if the circuit is working *correctly*.
But if it's working correctly, you don't need to measure it at all. ;-)
The reason for a high speed scope is to observe the behavior when it's not
working correctly. It's a high-power, high-speed AC circuit, so errors or
bad
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*Sent:* jeudi 22 novembre 2012 22:21
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*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:25 experiments completed with borax and nickels
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It's hard to know where to begin here but let me just say
not be
accurate enough to work well with production variations.
Dave
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From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2012 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:25 experiments completed with borax and nickels
As I previously advised:
Look
I see your point Jeff.
I did use the oscilloscope to figure out the minimum pulse width attainable
by the IOIO board I am using with my Android phone. It will go down to 65
ns.
Arnaud (or anyone who can answer),
So if I understand correctly, you could use a PWM pulse with an H bridge to
get AC
The closest I can get to figuring out how to do this would be the following:
3 power pulse modulators and a center tap transformer (see here:
http://www.rmcybernetics.com/tutorials/pwm-bipolar.htm).
The two PPMs and transformer that they describe gives you the HFAC. The
third would give you the
Have you tried boric acid, not Borax.
The acid powder can can be found in the bug killer dept. of most hardware
stores.
I use it to treat lumber and keep out ants and termites.
Frank Znidarsic
Hi Frank,
No I haven't tried that. It would be worth a try. I'll see if I can get
some.
Jack
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 7:33 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
Have you tried boric acid, not Borax.
The acid powder can can be found in the bug killer dept. of most hardware
stores.
I use it to
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Arnaud
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*Sent:* jeudi 22 novembre 2012 22:21
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*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:25 experiments completed with borax and nickels
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It's hard to know where to begin here
It turns out that determining the speed of sound in metals is kind of a
mess.
There is formula, sqrt (Young's Modulus / density), that gives an
approximation of the answer.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/souspe2.html
For nickel, I find 200GPa and 8.94e3 kg*m^-3; the formula
Hi folks,
I have completed a long series of experiments utilizing borax, standard
nickels (combined with thoriated tungsten rods), and an automated Android
phone control system. Although I developed some cool methods of running
experiments, I have to conclude that I found no anomalous heating.
Jack,
I suggest that you rerun your experiment with nanosecond duration pulsed
direct current using capacitive discharge.
You have not tested the hypothesis that high instantaneous pulse power
output will trigger over unity power production as has been demonstrated
by Brillouin Energy.
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