H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
America is running out of jobs. It's time for a universal basic income.
http://theweek.com/article/index/267720/america-is-running-out-of-jobs-its-time-for-a-universal-basic-income
. . .
That was pretty good. Here is an article linked to it, which
Jed, I think your article is good and true. Then if you add in LENR so
energy is abundant. Next step is that we make this cheap energy available
for the under developed countries. They will than adopt those resources and
access to resources is not the problem any more. Happiness or harmony is
not
The fly in this ointment is hacking. There will always be antisocial and
criminal types who will cause problems for a automated society in
proportion to the level of our dependence on that automation.
Whatever one genius can create, another genius can disrupt. The smart
member of an automated
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The fly in this ointment is hacking. There will always be antisocial and
criminal types who will cause problems for a automated society in
proportion to the level of our dependence on that automation.
It hasn't happened yet. People had the ability to
America is running out of jobs. It's time for a universal basic income.
http://theweek.com/article/index/267720/america-is-running-out-of-jobs-its-time-for-a-universal-basic-income
quotes
The idea that work is a bedrock of society, that absolutely everyone who
is not too old, too young,
The ideas by Marx and Engel were built on the problems in an changing
world. The beginning of the industrialism. Yes, the ideas had perhaps some
political overtones we have a hard time to accept and we know that
particularly in Sovjet it showed its limitations. Reality is of course that
old
I feel that a universal basic income would only work in a society where
there was sufficient mutual trust and undestanding to make it work. The
problem with those who propose such ideas can be that they think that
everyone else is like them. I suspect that if that was the case then
the
Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote:
I wonder whether a more workable/realistic alternative is to introduce
artificial inefficiencies into society such that more people need to work.
See Frederic Bastiat, The Candlemaker's Petition:
http://www.econlib.org/library/Bastiat/basSoph3.html#S.1,
I am sure you are right Jed artificial inefficiency (or make-work) is
ridiculous. However, we do not need that. There are many things not
invented yet. (Even LENR might be funded by a few enthusiast having nothing
else to do but what interested them. Even today some people write blog
posts without
I had the pleasure this last spring on one of its most beautiful days to
follow a winding path from one hardware store to the next looking for a
specialized and hard to get part for a piece of antique gardening
equipment. This quest took me deeper and deeper into the countryside until
I found a
About 100 years ago...
On Tuesday, September 9, 2014, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I had the pleasure this last spring on one of its most beautiful days to
follow a winding path from one hardware store to the next looking for a
specialized and hard to get part for a piece of antique
you make good points but further than that I think that the error is to
imagine that Job as salaryman is required.
in emerging economies you see there is many kind of jobs, and salaryman is
just one fragile but comfortable kind of work.
exploiting your assets (car, room,land, pavement
Stewart isn't that true something well done is pleasure. I do not think it
is because they avoid cars. They just use another set of values. They do
use wheels so some technology is OK. So even if I think that it is
beautiful it is not OK. If we all became that local in a world that is
getting
At least people are talking about basic income, even if the method of
financing it differs from Georgeist principles. Besides it could be that
the best designed basic income will based on more than one principle.
Btw, I don't think rent seeking is inherently bad. Everyone should be
entitled to
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 8:25 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Btw, I don't think rent seeking is inherently bad. Everyone should be
entitled to collect rent rather than be forced into wage labor and a basic
income would give everybody a form of rental income.
I think rent seeking is
From the Wikipedia article on economic rent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_rent:
By contrast, in production theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_theory, if there is no
exclusivity and there is perfect competition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_competition, there are no
I think we all know that the taxation system we built the last 100 years is
failing from all aspects.
The Europeans have introduced the VAT system and that is how there is less
understanding / awareness of how failing the system is. The financial model
is very complex and its theoretical
The PBS article gives the basis of the dividend as natural resources, which
doesn't address automation.
The CFR proposal is for unelected central banks to make decisions as to
which portions of the population are due dividends from assets owned by the
central banks. OK, so I'll admit that it is
A good time to look at the big picture:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rENyyRwxpHo
On Friday, September 5, 2014, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Martin Luther King, Jr. recommended Henry George's citizen's dividend.
But that's the last thing he ever did. They killed him and I believe
Good followup vid to wrap up the story. Super-clusters are among the last major
frontier of understanding the Universe. My view is that they will show that
there is/was no Big Bang, merely a succession of little bangs in a what is
mostly a steady state background condition … the remnants of
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:20 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Martin Luther King, Jr. recommended Henry George's citizen's dividend.
But that's the last thing he ever did. They killed him and I believe it
was because of that recommendation as it would have eliminated the need for
someone's video response
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggN8wCWSIx4
harry
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Here is a good video about automation and employment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
Some good quotes: after the Model T,
I think we are facing this revolution and HV's response is how we are
moving forward. The fact that so many people can see the opening is
encouraging. Unfortunately the critical mass for change is far from
reached. The mass is moving like molasses. Just now it is just uphill but
if you have not
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:31 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
someone's video response
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggN8wCWSIx4
3.5 minutes of effusive excitement about a not-too-distant future where one
does not need to work, followed by 1 minute of dwelling on the possible
Star Trek economy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQQYbKT_rMg
Harry
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:31 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
someone's video response
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggN8wCWSIx4
3.5
Martin Luther King, Jr. recommended Henry George's citizen's dividend. But
that's the last thing he ever did. They killed him and I believe it was
because of that recommendation as it would have eliminated the need for the
welfare bureaucracy and would have replaced the entire civil rights
Here is a good video about automation and employment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
Some good quotes: after the Model T, people did not say: There will be new
jobs for horses we can't imagine! There is not a rule that says, better
technology makes more better jobs for horses.
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good remarks for the horses. maybe the salarymen are like horses
but we are not only the horses, we are the rider too.
don't steal the job of robots.
the problem is to find a way to make people have access to the product and
services the robots produces.
some say basic income...
I propose
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
wrote:
Some good quotes: after the Model T, people did not say: There will be new
jobs for horses we can't imagine! There is not a rule that says, better
technology makes more better jobs for horses.
Pleasantly apocalyptic.
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