Re: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages...Manelas Device testing

2019-03-30 Thread Jones Beene
Recently posted factory tour of IEC https://youtu.be/1bA2OMRcxKo

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2019-03-30 Thread mixent
In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Sat, 30 Mar 2019 20:51:54 +: Hi, [snip] >Regarding Brian’s COFE 10 presentation see the following: > >https://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/cofe.html Quote:- "Don’t know what to make of the solar flares and supernova. The flares can

Re: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages...Manelas Device testing

2019-03-30 Thread mixent
In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Sat, 30 Mar 2019 20:51:54 +: Hi, [snip] >Regarding Brian’s COFE 10 presentation see the following: > >https://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/cofe.html Quote:- "The needle is drawn to the strongest field position?" It is not uncommon for

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2019-03-30 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
wages... The cooling was a surprise.We expected to do much more testing. Alas, it was not to be. From: Dave Roberson Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 8:03 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... Sent from Mail<ht

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2019-03-30 Thread Brian Ahern
was feeling poorly due to the large enlargement in his brain.He disassembled the working device. From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 12:08 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; Dave Roberson Subject: RE: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... Brian

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2019-03-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 29 Mar 2019 16:43:52 -0400: Hi, [snip] Whenever I see magic magnet motors, I am tempted to think of breaking and reconnecting magnetic field lines, with the attendant possibility that the ZPE may be tapped in such an event. >Did he discover Tesla's

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2019-03-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Brian Ahern's message of Fri, 29 Mar 2019 20:01:15 +: Hi Brian, [snip] >add monopoles to 1. I was thinking about the fact that the frequency was quite fixed, and wondering if it is a consequence of resonance due to the dimensions of the block. If so, a calculation of the velocity

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2019-03-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 29 Mar 2019 18:45:04 + (UTC): Hi, Total available solar wind energy, assuming a capture radius of 12000 km (inner belt only because that's where most of the energy is), is about 80 GW if I did my sums right, based on the figures mentioned here:-

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2019-03-30 Thread Brian Ahern
From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 12:08 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; Dave Roberson Subject: RE: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... Brian— You mention “two other engineers” that worked with you, experimenting on the MANELAS

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2019-03-30 Thread Brian Ahern
From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 12:08 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; Dave Roberson Subject: RE: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... Brian— You mention “two other engineers” that worked with you, experimenting on the MANELAS

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2019-03-30 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
y Bob Cook --- From: Brian Ahern Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 8:14:47 AM To: Dave Roberson; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... The cooling was a surprise.We expected to do much more testing. Alas, it was not to be. From: D

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2019-03-30 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
To: Dave Roberson; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... The cooling was a surprise.We expected to do much more testing. Alas, it was not to be. From: Dave Roberson Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 8:03 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

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2019-03-30 Thread Brian Ahern
The cooling was a surprise.We expected to do much more testing. Alas, it was not to be. From: Dave Roberson Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 8:03 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... Sent from Mail<https://eu

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2019-03-29 Thread Dave Roberson
Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Brian Ahern Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 7:31 AM To: bobcook39...@hotmail.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com; jone...@pacbell.net Subject: Re: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... I want to let Vortex folks know that I did not merely hear about the Manelas device

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2019-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
Brian Ahern wrote: add monopoles to 1.see Keith A. Fredericks Back in 2017 in a thread on vortex entitled "A Forgotten Chapter in LENR" which was remembering the "mystery radiation" seen in the early days of LENR and reported by dozens of researchers in fact - and suggesting that this

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2019-03-29 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Maybe the inventer fooled the Army too? Or were they part of a scam? What they paid for patent rights, if anything, would reveal much IMHO. Bob Cook To: Vortex List<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... bobcook39923 wrote: > I tend to sh

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2019-03-29 Thread Terry Blanton
Did he discover Tesla's secret? https://cosmosmagazine.com/technology/did-nikola-tesla-build-a-revolutionary-electric-car

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2019-03-29 Thread Brian Ahern
add monopoles to 1. see keith A. Fredericks From: Jones Beene Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 2:45 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... From: Brian Ahern > The entire Manelas device operation seems to inter

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2019-03-29 Thread Terry Blanton
8) Schumann resonances > > >

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2019-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
From: Brian Ahern > The entire Manelas device operation seems to interact with something not yet > understood.   Let's see... here are a few of the usual suspects for the source and/or main side effect of said unknown energy 1) Longitudinal Spin Seebeck Effect, aka spin waves, aka

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2019-03-29 Thread Chris Zell
Ahern Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 11:43 AM To: Chris Zell ; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... The entire Manelas device operation seems to interact with something not yet understood. From: Chris Zell mailto:chrisz

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2019-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
bobcook39923 wrote: > I tend to share Jones conclusion about the likely reality of the IEC device.  Bob, Well ... On further consideration, many doubts about the authenticity of this device have turned up. Unfortunately, it is looking more and more like a sophisticated scam... You simply

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2019-03-29 Thread Brian Ahern
The entire Manelas device operation seems to interact with something not yet understood. From: Chris Zell Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:31 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... I respectfully ask about bifilar coils

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2019-03-29 Thread Chris Zell
I respectfully ask about bifilar coils. I want to understand if something important has been overlooked. Whenever I see 'bifilar coils", I despair because I have never read about any well demonstrated significant/unusual effect from them. However, perhaps that is not so and there is some

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2019-03-29 Thread Terry Blanton
For the uninformed: https://ecatsite.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/ahern-manelas-device.pdf >

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2019-03-29 Thread Brian Ahern
like Bob Cooks comments herein and I now believe that bifilar windings are essential. From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:28 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... The link to the Army patent

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2019-03-28 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
one...@pacbell.net> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 1:21 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... This machine is surely an enigma but is it a scam? It does not seem to be. There is a possibility that the unit presently will f

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2019-03-28 Thread H LV
Is it scam? I don't know, but I don't think it is the duty of an observer to explain away such an incongrous statement when the statement is made by someone who purports to be knowledgeable. Harry On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:21 PM Jones Beene wrote: > This machine is surely an enigma but is it

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2019-03-28 Thread Jones Beene
This machine is surely an enigma but is it a scam? It does not seem to be. There is a possibility that the unit presently will function more as a UPS than a primary source of electrical power. Otherwise it makes no economic sense... other than being a scientific curiosity supplying "free

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2019-03-28 Thread H LV
:-D "two tens for a five" https://youtu.be/f7pMYHn-1yA Harry On Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 8:06 PM Terry Blanton > 40 *kw* of mechanical *energy* >> > > uh-huh. They sure know what they are talking about. >

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2019-03-28 Thread Jones Beene
Nigel Dyer wrote: Last week I was made aware of a 1982 patent taken out by Johann Grander on a magnetic motor.  The text only appears to be available in German so I spent an hour or so with Google translate converting it to English.  ... That would be this guy?

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2019-03-28 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
mechanical energy extraction should reveal changes associated with a decrease of total potential energy for the various isotopes. Bob Cook From: JonesBeene Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 6:37:29 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Magmo in the land

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2019-03-28 Thread Nigel Dyer
Last week I was made aware of a 1982 petent taken out by Johann Grander on a magnetic motor.  The text only appears to be available in German so I spent an hour or so with Google translate converting it to English. https://patents.google.com/patent/WO1982003300A1/it Nigel On 27/03/2019

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2019-03-28 Thread JonesBeene
Apparently, the favored explanation given by investors in IEC is that the inventor came up with a “monopole” permanent magnet (most likely a pseudo-monopole). The following older patent assigned to the US Army, is the Leupold patent, which describes a permanent composite magnet in which

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2019-03-27 Thread Dave Roberson
Nice sized flywheel. Could store a lot of energy so it is going to be hard to prove that the magnets are the real source. I am skeptical. Dave Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Terry Blanton Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 8:06 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Magmo in the land

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2019-03-27 Thread Terry Blanton
> 40 *kw* of mechanical *energy* > uh-huh. They sure know what they are talking about.

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2019-03-27 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
in the land of lost wages... The best coverage on this device is found here: Earth Engine: 3 years of 40+ kW mechanical energy production from magnets- orderable now - Revolution-Green<https://revolution-green.com/earth-engine-claimed-3-years-40-kw-mechanical-energy-production-magnets/>

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2019-03-27 Thread Chris Zell
I think the resumes of the people involved here are very impressive and that their participation is difficult to account for if this was simply fake. [cid:image001.jpg@01D4E4B6.A74450C0] [Text Box:] [https://s.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/23/logos/youtube.png] ‘Earth Engine’ magnet

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2019-03-27 Thread Jones Beene
Chris Zell wrote: Could someone post a patent number or schematic?  No relevant US patent turns up for the inventor Dennis M. Danzik but lots of patents in other fields - and there is negative stuff which clouds the situation ... He was apparently involved in alternative energy in

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2019-03-27 Thread Chris Zell
Could someone post a patent number or schematic? I tend to think that a magnetic motor could work. For example, the Werjefelt device might have had a good principle behind it but working out the cancelation of opposing force seems possible but impractical. Earth Engine: 3 years of 40+ kW

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2019-03-27 Thread Jones Beene
The best coverage on this device is found here: Earth Engine: 3 years of 40+ kW mechanical energy production from magnets- orderable now - Revolution-Green | | | | | | | | | | | Earth Engine: 3 years of 40+ kW mechanical energy production from magnet... Solar-Powered Moisture

[Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages...

2019-03-27 Thread JonesBeene
Magnetic motors magically appear in cyberspace from time to time, but usually they will demagnetize quickly or never work to begin with. Supposedly, however, there is one version which has been operating in Las Vegas for a while. At least it is aptly located… Place your bets…