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Bob Cook
From: Alan Fletcher<mailto:a...@well.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:05 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons? In a neutron-rich tin nucleus, electromagnetism
can win over the strong force
Just wondering if this might
Maybe we should change the name of LENR to remove the 'Nuclear' connotation
and just call it Structure Effect HyperChemical Reactions, SEHCR.Just
because there's a high energy gamma ray DURING the process doesn't mean
that we have to deal with gamma rays as a RESULT of it.So by it not
Just wondering if this might be relevent to one of the Cold Fusion "miracles"
https://phys.org/news/2017-05-neutron-rich-tin-nucleus-electromagnetism-strong.html
In a recent experiment ... scientists .. made a very surprising observation:
High-energy gamma rays—which are mediated by the
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Neutrons escaping to a parallel world?
In a paper recently published in EPJ C¹, researchers hypothesised the
existence of mirror particles to explain the anomalous loss of
neutrons observed experimentally. The existence
WELL SAID!!
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:28 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)
One more post on this intriguing subject of “disappearing hydrinos” leading to
anomalous cooling, before passing
http://www.tgdaily.com/general-sciences-features/64106-missing-neutrons-may-be-visiting-parallel-universe
http://www.springerlink.com/content/h68g501352t57011/fulltext.pdf
Same story on missing neutrons with graph and the full text site - showing the
apparent region of interest with a
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
It is easy to go over the top with dramatization on this one.
This scenario does not need to involve parallel universes (in the SciFi
sense) nor anything theological. In fact, Dirac's reciprocal space works
fine - as the
One more post on this intriguing subject of “disappearing hydrinos” leading to
anomalous cooling, before passing the pliers to Terry.
We have already mentioned that Dirac’s “reciprocal space” provides an
alternative venue for this modality, if it really exists – with a lot more
credibility
TRATEOTU:
The Total Perspective Vortex derives its picture of the whole Universe
on the principle of extrapolated matter analyses.
To explain — since every piece of matter in the Universe is in some
way affected by every other piece of matter in the Universe, it is in
theory possible to
To Terry (master of the one-liner) Blanton,
R U feeling ill, or just totally bored?
:-)
-mark
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
TRATEOTU:
The Total Perspective Vortex derives its picture of the whole Universe on
the principle of extrapolated matter
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:39 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
To Terry (master of the one-liner) Blanton,
R U feeling ill, or just totally bored?
Both, actually, mentally.
The quote is from Douglas Adams.
Rodin invented the Rodin coil.
And I didn't even mention Walter
UPDATE:
I was asked about the EPRI data in the Ahern report - showing cooling with
titanium nanopowder, and finally got in touch with Brian.
He did not include the data in the final report, merely a summation.
He stands by the cooling effect as valid and repeatable; but the effect was not
process is about as evasive as the heating
effect. Please keep us informed about this issue as new data is revealed.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 17, 2012 11:40 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:59 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Thanks for the update Jones. If the cooling effect is valid then it
should be pursued. Any time an anomalous occurrence is registered an
opportunity to discover a new relationship exists which may allow us to fit
is suggested as a sink of energy that
allows cooling. Perhaps this discovery is a low temperature variation of this
effect.
Dave
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From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 17, 2012 2:51 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons
Yesterday, Robin mentioned that under the theory of Mills, the hydrino
cannot be easily contained after it gives up significant energy - and would
eventually migrate out of the structure like a neutron (being subject to
gravity) and eventually “disappear” anyway – so there is no need for another
I wrote:
It brings the question of conservation of energy to the fore. If normal
LENR is like a box with a button on it, which once pressed causes heat to
spill out, can you have another box with a button that, when pressed,
causes cooling to occur? At face value, it sounds like some basic
I wrote:
The question of nickel v. tungsten is more complex than I implied. If I
remember correctly, there are experiments with tungsten in which heat was
produced.
The experiment involved titanium nanopowder, not tungsten. But I see now
that there have been experiments using titanium in
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
… don’t crush that dwarf :-)
Hand me the pliers.
(Without knowing the reference, this sounds crazy.)
T
I wrote:
So if Brian Ahern's anecdotal data are allowed, titanium can yield both
power and localized cooling (perhaps energy is being fed into the system
from the power outlet to accomplish this).
I'm all mixed up. There are the ice packs, which absorb heat during a
phase transition from
As I recall, the titanium experiments with thermal gain have been with
deuterium. Do you have reference to gain with Ti-H instead of Ti-D?
But even if titanium can go either way, and it can be determined that some
experiments with hydrogen and other “nano-metric” metals result in excess
Reference:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MileyGHnucleartra.pdf
NUCLEAR TRANSMUTATIONS IN THIN-FILM NICKEL COATINGS UNDERGOING
ELECTROLYSIS
George H. Miley and James A. Patterson
Other key features observed in Fig. 8 and Fig. 9 that must be accounted for
by any theory include the
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:38 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)
It is easy to go over the top with dramatization on this one. ...
...The interesting part (for this thread
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:27:19 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Perhaps the neutrons are captured in some manner and allowed to decay into
proton, electron, and an electron antineutrino. The antineutrino would easily
escape the system carrying away mass and energy.
The mystery of the eternal is now nothing more than CoE.
Harry
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Good find - and the implications are a bit convoluted. The curious thing is
that mirror matter neutrons (or deep hydrinos) will explain anomalous heat
loss
It is easy to go over the top with dramatization on this one.
This scenario does not need to involve parallel universes (in the SciFi
sense) nor anything theological. In fact, Dirac's reciprocal space works
fine - as the repository for deep hydrinos, and with no other fictional
baggage so to
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:37:36 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
The current is kept absolutely
constant to the heater, so that there is no variation on P-in during the
run.
Resistance heaters usually have a resistance that is temperature dependant (at
least to some degree), so
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:37:36 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
The interesting part (for this thread) is that with Titanium nanopowder,
instead of a temperature inversion indicating gain, you get an anomalous
sink. For instance, instead of an expected 10 degree drop (out-to-in)
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:37:36 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Essentially, what I think happens with nano-titanium cooling is that the
nanoparticles - which are a strong Mills' catalyst - collapse to the full
redundancy in one continuous step - where there is both heat release
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:37:36 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
E=mc^2 works both ways, apparently - and when mass disappears - in a
dimensional sense, so does the corresponding energy it contained. This is
seen as heat removal from a hot reactor. The active species does not have
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Why would Hydrinos be any more likely to interact with another dimension
than
ordinary matter?
Hi Robin,
Why would neutrons? This is all based on the speculative paper cited.
The paper apparently does not go into much detail on an
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Jun 16, 2012 8:01 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)
Original Message-
rom: mix...@bigpond.com
Why would Hydrinos be any more likely to interact with another dimension
han
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
They don't need to disappear into reciprocal space.
This isn't about need Robin - it is about explaining results. Most of the
time, of course, this kind of cooling reaction simply does not happen. Do
you know of any other reports of
Seems to me the Sea of Negative Energy must be involved and
Feynman's Nobel might be revoked.
T
... and the feast begins!
:-)
-Mark
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:29 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
They don't need
Let us not throw away the CoE too fast. I suggest that an solution will one
day appear that does not do this.
Dave
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From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Jun 16, 2012 9:15 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons
-Original Message-
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint
1. If a neutron can disappear into the vacuum, then:
1a. Can a neutron pop INTO this space (spontaneous formation)?
Let me just say this. There have been for a long time - reports of spontaneous
(anomalous) hydrogen showing up in extreme
Since the subject has arisen, it is worth mentioning that the
spontaneous generation of matter happens in steady-state
cosmological theories propounded by Fred Hoyle and others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady_State_theory
Harry
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Jones Beene
this.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Jun 16, 2012 9:15 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)
1. If a neutron can disappear into the vacuum, then:
1a. Can a neutron pop
Neutrons escaping to a parallel world?
In a paper recently published in EPJ C¹, researchers hypothesised the
existence of mirror particles to explain the anomalous loss of
neutrons observed experimentally. The existence of such mirror matter
had been suggested in various scientific contexts some
What drives such theory making is the need to uphold CoE.
Harry
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Neutrons escaping to a parallel world?
In a paper recently published in EPJ C¹, researchers hypothesised the
existence of mirror particles to explain the
Good find - and the implications are a bit convoluted. The curious thing is
that mirror matter neutrons (or deep hydrinos) will explain anomalous heat
loss quite nicely.
As you may remember, Ahern reported that some of his Arata-style samples
demonstrated anomalous heat LOSS (more of the samples
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