On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Terry--
Your theory is sane. That's my theory too.
Have you successfully calculated the total energy contained in an
electron in ground state?
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Terry--
Your theory is sane. That's my theory too.
Have you successfully calculated the total energy contained in an
electron in ground state?
hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Terry--
Your theory is sane. That's my theory too.
Have you successfully calculated the total energy
calculation matched
the mass seen calculated from the annihilation experiment to 3 or 4
significant figures.
Bob
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From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
On Wed, Sep
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:44:54 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function_collapse
I don't mean mathematically, I mean physically.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:22:31 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
*That means interactions with other parts of the nucleus are possible, but
not with other atoms*
I took this to mean that cluster fusion could not happen because of the
speed of light.
Cluster fusion could happen if
This is making my theory of electron absorption by multi particle spin
coupling look sane.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function_collapse
Wave function collapse
In quantum mechanics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics, *wave
function collapse* is the phenomenon in which a wave function
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function—initially in a superposition
Decoherence of the combined wave function makes the tunneling event and the
release of binding energy.
should read
Decoherence of the combined wave function *marks* the tunneling event and
the release of binding energy.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry--
Your theory is sane. That's my theory too.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
This is making my theory of electron absorption by multi particle
*That means interactions with other parts of the nucleus are possible, but
not with other atoms*
I took this to mean that cluster fusion could not happen because of the
speed of light.
My point, quantum mechanics allows cluster fusion to occur regardless of
the speed of light.
On Sat, Sep 13,
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:29:48 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Fusion is a two step process. The first step is the tunneling of the one or
more He2 nuclei into the as yet to be realized resultant nucleus. This
process may occur as a superposition of many separate nuclear
events
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Thu, 11 Sep 2014 21:01:27 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
One thing that could be happening is that the when there is a capture of a
single deuteron (assuming this is what is going on), the daughter is
short-lived in the case of the specific isotopes under investigation,
coherent system, described by a wave function none of us can
calculate.
Bob
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From: Eric Walker
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:49 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote
that transmutation seems to be the fusion with an even number of
deuteron (2-4-6), with preference to stable isotopes.
IMHO, the reason for the even deuteron rule is the requirement from zero
spin in the groping of nuclei that will enter into the LENR reaction.
A pairing of protons that result
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:20:18 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
A pairing of protons that result in a total nuclear spin result of zero are
required for the fusion reaction to be successful.
A zero spin final nucleus will certainly have a lower energy than an odd spin
nucleus,
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:38:24 -0700:
Hi Bob,
You may well be correct, however Eric was talking about short lived
intermediates. I was simply suggesting that he find out what they would be.
Robin--
I worry that your concern about simultaneous capture is based on
, 2014 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:28:16 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
it remind me the observation of Iwamura as noticed in the book of Ed
Storms, that transmutation seems to be the fusion with an even number of
deuteron (2-4-6
, September 11, 2014 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:28:16 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
it remind me the observation of Iwamura as noticed in the book of Ed
Storms, that transmutation seems to be the fusion with an even number of
deuteron (2
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:33:47 -0400:
Hi,
If the reaction energy of 6 MeV is mostly transferred to the lattice
(soliton) via EMF strong coupling, the second proton of the He2 pair can
drift out of the reaction zone with a energy of just a few KeV.
With strong EMF
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:23 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In that case, why not get specific, and check what would be produced if a
deuteron/neutron/proton were added to the starting material?
Yes, this is something I should do. There's enough data to make it a
little bit of a project, so
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
It is not to hard to imagine 2 D's or 2 H's inside a face centered cubic
metal matrix reacting at the same time with Ni or Pd nuclei of the same
cell they share.
Just an opinion, but I find it even more unlikely that
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
How does a 6.-- Mev proton give up its energy without some gammas x-rays
showing up?
When a proton ~ 10 MeV travels through a metal, it will interact with
electrons via the Coulomb interaction and, possibly, with lattice
I wrote:
Except for deexcitation gammas arising from inelastic collisions with
lattice sites, the fast proton will give rise to photons on the order of
less than ~ 20 keV.
One exception to this is when the proton collides with another species with
sufficient energy to fuse. Then there may be
Fusion is a two step process. The first step is the tunneling of the one or
more He2 nuclei into the as yet to be realized resultant nucleus. This
process may occur as a superposition of many separate nuclear
events where multiple nuclei tunnel into the resultant nucleus and yet
still be at a
In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:28:16 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
it remind me the observation of Iwamura as noticed in the book of Ed
Storms, that transmutation seems to be the fusion with an even number of
deuteron (2-4-6), with preference to stable isotopes.
Note also that
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:02:40 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
The time period is irrelevant. At some point the reaction is going to stop, and
when it does, some of the intermediate nuclei should be left.
There is then also the question of why the reaction stops with what
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:49 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Bottom line: As far as nuclear reactions are concerned, I would expect D to
produce mostly 4He, and H to produce mostly transmutation reactions.
Yes -- I have no reason to disagree with this. I was addressing
specifically the
I wrote:
Yes -- I have no reason to disagree with this. I was addressing
specifically the multiples of 2 D and 3 D that some believe have been
identified in transmutations (i.e., Z=+4, Z=+6, Z=+8, but not Z=+2.).
Sorry -- that's supposed to be M (for mass number) rather than Z (for
proton
I wrote:
About the beta-delayed gamma -- it's not clear that the 63Ni* gamma decay
is a beta-delayed gamma in this instance (see the decay in [1]). But as
you know beta-delayed gammas are a frequent occurrence. The half-life of
the beta decay in this case is 100 years, so if there is
-62 removal would be
expensive for Rossi.
Bob
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*From:* Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:56 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
09, 2014 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
I wrote:
About the beta-delayed gamma -- it's not clear that the 63Ni* gamma decay
is a beta-delayed gamma in this instance (see the decay in [1]). But as you
know beta-delayed gammas are a frequent occurrence. The half-life
about the spin of Ni-61 is incorrect.
Bob
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*From:* Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:30 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
I wrote:
About the beta-delayed gamma -- it's not clear
understood yet.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
Ni61 has be found to be LENR inactive due to its non zero nuclear spin.
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Bob Cook frobertc
of excess mass may be the answer--there are no gammas
apparently.
Bob
- Original Message - From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 5:37 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
(Sorry if this was already posted -- my internets have
particles. LENR is not fully
understood yet.
Bob
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*From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:07 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
Ni61 has be found to be LENR inactive due to its non zero
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
wrote:
it remind me the observation of Iwamura as noticed in the book of Ed
Storms, that transmutation seems to be the fusion with an even number of
deuteron (2-4-6), with preference to stable isotopes.
Ed draws the
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 5:37 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
(Sorry if this was already posted -- my internets have been intermittent )
Andrea Rossi
August 28th, 2014 at 6:38 AM
Curiosone:
We think that our process, the so called “Rossi Effect
--there are no gammas apparently.
Bob
- Original Message - From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 5:37 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
(Sorry if this was already posted -- my internets have been intermittent )
Andrea Rossi
August
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
I wonder if the new Cu is Cu-63? Rossi may be implying that Ni-62 goes to
Cu-63, both of which are stable isotopes. Spin coupling to get rid of the
6.22Mev of excess mass may be the answer--there are no gammas apparently.
I wrote:
In a 62Ni(d,p)63Ni reaction, the 63Ni will beta- decay to 63Cu. The proton
will have ~ 5 MeV and will excite 11 keV electrons, which can easily be
shielded. There will be a delayed gamma emission after the beta- decay of
Q=87 keV, however, which will not be fully shielded even by
-
From: Eric Walker
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
I wonder if the new Cu is Cu-63? Rossi may be implying that Ni-62 goes to
Cu-63, both of which
...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:56 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
I wonder if the new Cu is Cu-63? Rossi may be implying that Ni-62 goes to
Cu-63, both of which are stable
(Sorry if this was already posted -- my internets have been intermittent )
Andrea Rossi
August 28th, 2014 at 6:38 AM
Curiosone:
We think that our process, the so called “Rossi Effect”, is , as a serendipity,
also a system to produce 62Ni, because only this fact can explain the formation
of
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