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I think a grounded metal pail might act like a faraday cage and absorb
EMF, but if it was open at the top microwaves not absorbed by the water
should leak out
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 11:37
. This may include
cavity sizes.
Bob
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reactions in a magnetic field. This may include
cavity sizes.
Bob
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I’m way out of my zone of expertise here
From: Ken Deboer
Ø Regarding the 'shell' of various LENR reactors, I wonder if someone could
recap or comment on what the history has been and what some of the
considerations and rational were behind them. Most reactors have been built
around steel if I'm not mistaken, and some of
of these
questions.
Bob
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From: ChemE Stewart
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The melting miracle
I think a grounded metal pail might act like a faraday cage and absorb EMF,
but if it was open
I think a grounded metal pail might act like a faraday cage and absorb EMF,
but if it was open at the top microwaves not absorbed by the water should
leak out
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, ChemE Stewart
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
I had that weird thought too that the reactor might be generating microwave
radiation and heating the water...
Would the microwaves make it through the metal pail?
Eric
I’m way out of my zone of expertise here, as a speaker builder/designer, I am
familiar with resonant frequencies of boxes, cavities, or spaces. Has the
possibility that Rossi is optimizing the reactor design so the reactor cavity
resonates at specific frequencies? Has this been considered?
As I have stated in another thread:
Doing science inside the dog bone can be like doing science inside another
universe. There is no certainty that physics or chemistry works that same
inside the a functioning dog bone as it does in the real world. Maybe
different physical rules apply.
On Thu,
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I am interested in what keeps the Rossi micro powder from
sintering/melting at high surface temperatures when the reactor is in
operation. We call this weird behavior the melting miracle.
This is an interesting question. If
The dry run MFMP dogbone test has indicated the existence of some very
weird behavior in the Rossi dog bone experiment.
The MFMP dog-bone reactor places a theromcoupe both at the core and on the
outside of the reactor. These thermocouples in the MFMP test shows us that
the core of the dog bone
]:The melting miracle
I’m way out of my zone of expertise here, as a speaker builder/designer, I am
familiar with resonant frequencies of boxes, cavities, or spaces. Has the
possibility that Rossi is optimizing the reactor design so the reactor cavity
resonates at specific frequencies? Has
Taking the report at face value, the hotcat displays several of the standard
LENR miracles ..
Some evidence of nuclear reactions (though incomplete and a tiny sample: Li, Ni
-- but no H, He ... examined)
No radiation outside an alumina cylinder (though there may be a steel tube
inside)
No
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From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 18, 2014 1:36 pm
Subject: [Vo]:Hotcat melting miracle
Taking the report at face value, the hotcat displays several of the standard
LENR miracles ..
Some evidence of nuclear reactions (though incomplete
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
So either the temperature measurement is wrong, or we have another miracle,
that seems to take place within the entire interior of the hotcat.
I think part of our difficulty is that one hesitates to take the report at
face
happen.
Dave
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From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 18, 2014 1:36 pm
Subject: [Vo]:Hotcat melting miracle
Taking the report at face value, the hotcat displays several of the
standard
LENR miracles ..
Some evidence
There was a directly observable miracle that showed unmelted nano structure
on the surface of those nickel micro particles that should have melted at
1000C and yet where photographed after days of 1400C reactor operating
temperatures. Those temperature differences are TOO LARGE to be due to poor
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
There was a directly observable miracle that showed unmelted nano structure
on the surface of those nickel micro particles that should have melted at
1000C and yet where photographed after days of 1400C reactor operating
I can't believe that the independent science team could ever make a mistake
that bad: measuring a reactor temperature that as actually at 700C as being
1400C.
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
The melting miracle may put into question some irrefutable logic about
reactor melt down.
It is assumed by all what are not judged to be nuts that when the reactor
get up to 2000C during meltdown, the nickel particles are long since melted
and something else is causing increasing temperature
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I can't believe that the independent science team could ever make a mistake
that bad: measuring a reactor temperature that as actually at 700C as being
1400C.
It is difficult to believe. And yet, people do make large mistakes at
times. If the photos in Fig.
I wrote:
I can't believe that the independent science team could ever make a
mistake that bad: measuring a reactor temperature that as actually at 700C
as being 1400C.
It is difficult to believe. And yet, people do make large mistakes at
times.
See p. 11 here for examples of large
a lower temperature than the camera temperature and been more accurate.
Bob
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From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hotcat melting miracle
There was a directly observable miracle that showed unmelted
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
The isotopic analyses are a little amazing, and, as far as I can tell, do
not give indications of a gradient effect in the 6Li and 62Ni species.
appendix 3
measured abundance in ash sample
6Li - 92.1%
7Li - 7.9%
? This is just an strange
thought that came into my visualization.
Dave
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From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 18, 2014 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hotcat melting miracle
The melting miracle may put into question
, 2014 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hotcat melting miracle
The melting miracle may put into question some irrefutable logic about
reactor melt down.
It is assumed by all what are not judged to be nuts that when the
reactor get up to 2000C during meltdown, the nickel particles are long
since
Dave and Axil,
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I can't believe that the independent science team could ever make a
mistake that bad: measuring a reactor temperature that as actually at 700C
as being 1400C.
Ordinarily a surface at 1400C should glow
Where are the neutrons?
Must be a mistake.
Where is the white glow?
Must be another mistake.
Harry
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:36 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
appendix 3
measured abundance in ash sample
6Li - 92.1%
7Li - 7.9%
62Ni - 98.7%
This is TOF-SIMS, secondary ion mass spectroscopy. It is a surface
analysis. Heavy ions are accelerated towards the target and cause
Note that the Figure 12 of the Lugano report does not say when the photos
were taken. It only says during the test. The pictures could have been
taken while the device was in dummy test mode, while the device was heating
up, while the device was cooling down. The report does not say what
Maybe the intent of those pictures on page 12 was to show the heater wire
shadows. The reactor may have gotten too hot to show what the testers
wanted to show so they picked the pictures with the best wire shadow image
regardless of the temperature.
This might be a compromise made to tell the
page 12
should read
page 25
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe the intent of those pictures on page 12 was to show the heater wire
shadows. The reactor may have gotten too hot to show what the testers
wanted to show so they picked the pictures with
Right Axil - I meant to say Figure 12. Thanks for the correction.
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
page 12
should read
page 25
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe the intent of those pictures on page 12 was to
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