Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: */PLEASE!/* Let's strive for a little more precision in the language here! It was *not* disinformation, which is misinformation that is _deliberately_ disseminated in order to influence or confuse rivals (WordNet 2.0) Exactly right. There is no advantage to a

Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-19 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
:10 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure When used for heating in homes, the device delivers very probably hot water. In the case of the experiment, the flow of the water

Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-19 Thread mixent
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:31:25 -0500: Hi, [snip] Of course if you meant to imply that Rossi was intentionally trying to mislead everyone when he said it was 1500 degrees in there, then 'disinformation' was indeed the right word. [snip] You are all making a

Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: You are all making a mountain out of a molehill. Obviously the average temperature was 400 ÂșC, while there were hot spots where the temperature exceeded the melting point of Ni, as it became fused in places. Takahashi told me there is a form of low-temperature

Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-19 Thread noone noone
Jed, I emailed you. Please respond. From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 8:17:19 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure mix...@bigpond.com wrote

Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:33 PM, noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote: Jed, I emailed you. Please respond. Is that no one or noonie? I used to get a nooner occasionally. eg T

Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Rossi could keep his black box method and still prove his claims with a 24 hour stress test that would produce far more energy than he could possibly Conceal inside the black box. He has done that. People have told me they witnessed that,

Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-18 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/18/2011 11:04 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Rossi could keep his black box method and still prove his claims with a 24 hour stress test that would produce far more energy than he could possibly

Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-18 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/18/2011 02:52 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: CLOSE THE LOOP. He [Rossi] says he can run without any electrical input. Ergo he /can/ close the loop, without the expense of a Stirling motor and generator. Actually, that is heat input, from an AC resistance

Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: That, also, makes it seem a little surprising that the joule heater continues to be used *after* ignition. It's contributing just 4% of the total heat; you'd think they could just shut it off after the thing starts up. Of course, the reacting surface area may be

RE: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-18 Thread Jones Beene
This is not surprising. My guess is that there is strong temperature inversion, and a prohibitive trigger temperature with instant quench. The trigger could be say at 800 C, and the inversion 1000 C, giving some room for error. There are zones and only one of them is externally heated. This is

Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: This amplification of input is why he has named it the way he has. Although, it would not really be amplification, would it? The reaction has a known instability and he uses the 400 W stable source to mask that

Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Based on what I've read so far, I know I'd prefer the full protection and experience of a major utility company managing the reactor . . . Me too! I would think that only after a considerable amount of experience combined with a good track record has

Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-18 Thread francis
All Catalysts are normally considered accelerators of standard reactions and skeletal catalysts are based on Casimir geometry / suppression of energy density which is known to lead To relativistic effects on the half lives of radioactive gas. Perhaps Rossi is using sodium or other very

Re: [Vo]:a longer duration black box test would prove issue without disclosure

2011-01-18 Thread Peter Gluck
When used for heating in homes, the device delivers very probably hot water. In the case of the experiment, the flow of the water was seemingly limited by the pump (we don't know its performance characteristics), the connection tube, the cooling space. Cooling water moves in pipe with maximum 2-3