RE: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
/bigots. -mark -Original Message- From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:18 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data

RE: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Steven: Societies without some form of moral code, a shared sense of right and wrong, usually don’t last long… Hi Mark, Agreed. But in the meantime, they can do a lot of damage and cause much pain and suffering before they implode. The real irony is that most believe they are truly

RE: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26 People are conflating advances in hardware with advances in software. Software has been stuck in the dark ages for decades and as a result has metastasized to fill whatever capacity

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread James Bowery
[mailto:orionwo...@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:18 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26 Steven: Societies without some

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread James Bowery
-l *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26 People are conflating advances in hardware with advances in software. Software has been stuck in the dark ages for decades

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: For many day-to-day operations the responsiveness of systems like MS Windows has actually decreased. That is because they keep adding bells and whistles. It is feature-itus run amok. When I installed recent versions of Windows I went through and turned

RE: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
! -mark From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 4:04 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: BTW AFAIK Moores Law isn't that speeds increase but that transistor densities increase. Correct. It was originally a simple statement about two-dimensional geometry. It happens that speed followed roughly the same curve for a long time, although in

RE: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
HI Mark, I suspect no religion can escape having an embarrassing moment or two. That's becuz humans run them all, not any prescribed deity. I didn't mean to single out Christianity anymore than any other religion. IMHO, if we humans could just accept the fact that we all occasionally f#$k

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread John Berry
Programming could surely be improved a great deal, since some languages were designed to be bad to give programmers lots of work. And x86 architecture is baroque from an assembly language perspective. But while I am on the topic, let me go slightly off topic, there is a lot that I think is rather

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread James Bowery
Yes, the advances in neural machine learning are real but in substance they have been around for decades and are now emerging having been submerged in the noise. For instance, read Jürgen Schmidhuber's timeline of deep learning http://people.idsia.ch/~juergen/firstdeeplearner.html going back to

SV: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread Lewan Mats
I believe that a good explanation for doubling speed is provided by Kurzweil’s suggestion that he calls The Law of Accelerating Returns (http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-law-of-accelerating-returns), basically meaning that whatever is invented/evolved in a system is fed back into the system and

RE: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26 From Lewan, I believe that a good explanation for doubling speed is provided by Kurzweil’s suggestion that he calls The Law of Accelerating Returns (http

RE: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Lewan, I believe that a good explanation for doubling speed is provided by Kurzweil’s suggestion that he calls The Law of Accelerating Returns (http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-law-of-accelerating-returns), basically meaning that whatever is invented/evolved in a system is fed back

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread Bob Higgins
What James says is true about the radius of connection. However, two things have been driving that radius smaller - smaller gate size and chip stacking. We all recognize that making the transistors and the gates smaller decreases this radius, but what is not widely recognized is chip stacking

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread John Berry
BTW AFAIK Moores Law isn't that speeds increase but that transistor densities increase. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:33 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: What James says is true about the radius of connection. However, two things have been driving that radius smaller - smaller gate

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-27 Thread Alain Sepeda
yes, moore law talk of size of transistor, but that is linked to speed, complexity, RAM size... there are many different moore laws and when they interact with dimensions in real world it created big problems. for exemple disk and RAM memory capacity grow faster than the I/O to talk to the disk.

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-26 Thread Rich Murray
I suppose there will evolve a molecular scale device of about 1,000 atoms, interacting by light speed signals, with local memory modules directly adjacent in six directions -- what would be the cycle time for this? Since 1660 the growth of all science has been exponential -- that's the actual

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-26 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: They will have the power of today's Watson computer, which is to say, they will be able to play Jeopardy or diagnose disease far better than any person. I expect they will also recognize faces and do voice input better

RE: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-26 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Well said ! From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 7:00 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

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2015-01-26 Thread James Bowery
All boolean functions (meaning all programs) can be parallelized to only 2 gate delays. The problem is your computer ends up with more gates than there are elementary particles in the universe. A good deal of real computation consists of, in essence, decompressing a compressed form of the the

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-26 Thread Axil Axil
It is my contention that the Ni/H reactor is a proof of principle for the quantum computer. In the Ni/H reactor energy is shared instantaneously between all the plasmonic components of the reactor because there exists a condition of global BEC maintained throughout the reactor. On Mon, Jan 26,

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Architectures that attempt to hide this problem with lots of processors accessing local stores in parallel are drunks looking for their keys under the lamp post. I disagree. The purpose of a computer is solve problems. To process data. Not to crunch

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-26 Thread Axil Axil
The Nanor is an example of a quantum based solid state LENR photonic device that operated in a state of quantum entanglement. A quantum computer could well be based on the Nanor. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It is my contention that the Ni/H reactor is a

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-26 Thread James Bowery
This is nonsense. In microcomputer architecture there is something known as the radius of control, which is bounded by the distance that can be traversed by a signal from a processing unit to memory and back. That feedback time is, even in some hypothetical all-optical computer, limited by the

Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-26 Thread Axil Axil
The mechanism that underpins the quantum computer is entanglement and the speed of entanglement is instantaneous. Computing components will be connected through long rang entanglement so data will be shared instantaniously. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:15 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

[Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

2015-01-26 Thread Rich Murray
doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2015/01/doubling-speed-every-2-years-for.html [ See also: exponential information technology 1890-2014 10exp17 more MIPS