Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-13 Thread mixent
In reply to H Veeder's message of Wed, 12 Mar 2014 17:16:06 -0400: Hi Harry, [snip] When grains made of long chain molecules rub against one another molecules can be broken (this should happen with some plastics too). When a molecule breaks, it can either form two neutral molecules, or a

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-13 Thread David Roberson
could not behave this way since the charges would leak off. Dave -Original Message- From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Mar 13, 2014 4:55 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks In reply to H Veeder's

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-13 Thread Nigel Dyer
this right? Thanks for chiming in! -Mark *From:*Nigel Dyer [mailto:l...@thedyers.org.uk] *Sent:* Monday, March 10, 2014 4:41 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks I think there is a link. I think that one of the simplest

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-13 Thread Roarty, Francis X
13, 2014 5:18 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks I wonder if the fact that a different charge appears on the first separating grains which then biases the process to enhance that effect. I always seek out positive

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-13 Thread David Roberson
to magnetic effects. Dave -Original Message- From: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Mar 13, 2014 6:01 pm Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks But conductive particles do

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-13 Thread Nigel Dyer
this way since the charges would leak off. Dave -Original Message- From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Mar 13, 2014 4:55 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks In reply to H Veeder's message of Wed, 12 Mar 2014

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-12 Thread H Veeder
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:00 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to ChemE Stewart's message of Sat, 8 Mar 2014 17:48:13 -0500: Hi, That one is easy, it's flour power :) [snip] Normally a charge imbalance arises when different materials are rubbed together. (eg. amber and fur)

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
to return to the boiler. Fran From: H Veeder [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 12:01 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks If this has any bearing on hydrogen loaded metal lattices then the equivalent

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-10 Thread mixent
In reply to ChemE Stewart's message of Sat, 8 Mar 2014 17:48:13 -0500: Hi, That one is easy, it's flour power :) [snip] Normally a charge imbalance arises when different materials are rubbed together. (eg. amber and fur) Since all the grains are made from same the material a charge imbalance

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-10 Thread Nigel Dyer
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks Axil, I don't get it. Why not optimize this for power generation? Find a way to generate cracks in a nano material with a small amount of electricity. Presumably there is an optimal material, shape, context

RE: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-10 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
to break down. Am I remembering this right? Thanks for chiming in! -Mark From: Nigel Dyer [mailto:l...@thedyers.org.uk] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 4:41 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks I think there is a link. I think

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-09 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Axil, I don't get it. Why not optimize this for power generation? Find a way to generate cracks in a nano material with a small amount of electricity. Presumably there is an optimal material, shape, context in terms of gases present that causes this, and a better method than just 'shifting a

RE: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-09 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
immediately thought that the mechanism could be related. -Mark Iverson From: Blaze Spinnaker [mailto:blazespinna...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks Axil, I don't get it. Why

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-09 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.scienceinschool.org/2009/issue12/fireballs I judge this to be important of the LENR scientist as follows: These patterns proved that the fireballs were indeed full of particles with an average radius of about 25 nm - i.e. they are nanoparticles. The data also showed that* the

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-09 Thread H Veeder
If this has any bearing on hydrogen loaded metal lattices then the equivalent of the flour crack might be a region which was formerly filled with hydrogen but which suddenly became devoid of hydrogen. In other words, instead of cracks in the lattice being important to excess heat, it might be the

[Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-08 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26462348 LENR has been talking about this for some time now.

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-08 Thread H Veeder
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26462348 LENR has been talking about this for some time now. quote from article Not every major earthquake is preceded by lightning. And not all clear-sky lightning is followed by

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 8 Mar 2014 14:45:54 -0500: Hi, [snip] http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26462348 LENR has been talking about this for some time now. My take:- When two grains rub against one another, the distance between them is nm. If a slight charge

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-08 Thread mixent
In reply to H Veeder's message of Sat, 8 Mar 2014 15:09:56 -0500: Hi, [snip] On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26462348 LENR has been talking about this for some time now. quote from article Not every major

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-08 Thread H Veeder
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 4:45 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 8 Mar 2014 14:45:54 -0500: Hi, [snip] http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26462348 LENR has been talking about this for some time now. My take:- When two grains rub against one

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-08 Thread ChemE Stewart
That one is easy, it's flour power On Saturday, March 8, 2014, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 4:45 PM, mix...@bigpond.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mix...@bigpond.com'); wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 8 Mar 2014 14:45:54 -0500: Hi,

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-08 Thread Kevin O'Malley
The important message therefore is this: LENR is passing the fractal test - we live in a fractal universe, where a pattern at one scale, repeats at larger and smaller scales. Without that symmetry, the universe would break down, and LENR does not let us down here Gordon Docherty