RE: [Vo]:Our Jobless Startrek Future

2009-10-09 Thread Roarty, Francis X
If energy is free the need to work will not be so burdensome and the economy will slowly transition to entertainment and personal services. Once energy is free and compact, robotics will finally blossom to its real potential and a utopian society can emerge. We will still need to safeguard the

Re: [Vo]:Our Jobless Startrek Future

2009-10-09 Thread Mike Carrell
This line reasoning is incomplete. ujnless you evision a hunter-gatherer civilization dependednt on 'natural' bounty - which could not support billions of humans, the infrastructure reqires specialization, which in turn requires argiculture -- not simple farming [whichis *not* simple], but

Re: [Vo]:Our Jobless Startrek Future

2009-10-08 Thread John Berry
Don't forget Robotopia! If so few jobs are needed then people can do things they are passionate about and take a great amount of care in what they do. They can strive for creativity and excellence rather than doing whatever makes the most money the fastest at the expense of quality as is often

Re: [Vo]:Our Jobless Startrek Future

2009-10-08 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Chris sez: Just imagine what would happen to our economy if we had a device like the Replicator on Startrek. Anyone could have anything from clothing to gold bars to Earl Grey Tea instantly. The overall effect would be profoundly deflationary and the only jobs that remained would be menial

Re: [Vo]:Our Jobless Startrek Future

2009-10-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Chris Zell's message of Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:47:12 -0700 (PDT): Hi, That just means we reduce the number of hours in the working week, while retaining the same salary. :) Just imagine what would happen to our economy if we had a device like the Replicator on Startrek.  Anyone could

Re: [Vo]:Our Jobless Startrek Future

2009-10-08 Thread Chris Zell
Take a good look at the job market and notice the Replicator effect - plenty of minimum wage jobs and a few well paid critical jobs that have plenty of applicants but companies find difficult to fill.  And you think you can split up the hours for a couple people?   As human beings, we are

Re: [Vo]:Our Jobless Startrek Future

2009-10-08 Thread John Berry
Masturbate? Seriously though there is so much that could be done if the resources existed, you mention a Star Trek future but who is to figure out, build and fly the space ships? Who is going to figure out how to live extra long? or undo the damage that has been done to the environment? There is

Re: [Vo]:Our Jobless Startrek Future

2009-10-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Chris Zell's message of Thu, 8 Oct 2009 18:31:19 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] If ET's exist, as utterly advanced physical creatures, I can't figure out what they do all day. They're online reading your emails. :^) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

RE: [Vo]:Our Jobless Startrek Future

2009-10-08 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Robin sez: If ET's exist, as utterly advanced physical creatures, I can't figure out what they do all day. They're online reading your emails. :^) Sh! Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks