RE: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-05 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
I did read the "Simple theory may explain dark matter" article supplied by Axil. http://phys.org/news/2013-06-simple-theory-dark.html Excerpt: There are a great many different theories about the nature of dark matter. What I like about this theory is its simplicity, uniqueness and the

RE: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-05 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Thank you for making the effort, Axil. I bookmarked all three articles for possible future reference. The Anapole dark matter article appears to possess a lot of complicated algebra. But at least it's not 20 pages of integrals. FYI, since my retirement I have acquired a very full class

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-05 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Jones Beene wrote: And anyone who has followed the vortex group over the years realizes that > it is top heavy with programmers may have learned a little physics along > the way, but who look at LENR mostly as a control problem. True, and

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-05 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: So which is it, Axil? Rydberg matter, or hydrinos? Count me as betting against both. Eric

RE: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-05 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Eric, > Software developers are generally skeptical of the scope and accuracy > of mathematical models and see their application primarily as a > curve-fitting problem That is an accurate description Eric. I think I'll be doing a lot of that for the next couple years. Regards, Steven

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-04 Thread Lennart Thornros
Hello Axil and Steven, I liked Steven's comments. There are seldom we see radical shifts in anything. That is because people in general has a built in resistance to changes. I am sure that (unfortunately) there will be people building and improving nuclear bombs even without the need for fusion

RE: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-04 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Axil: > If there was no need for nuclear power, there would be no need for > uranium enrichment or plutonium production. Without the need for engineers > to keep nuclear power plants going, their would be no knowhow to produce > H-bombs. Unfortunately, I did not make my POV

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-04 Thread Lennart Thornros
Hello Jones, I think you are on to something. Think small. Think flexible. Think without strings attached to "the ones in the know". It probably will make result as it is multi pronged approach (instead of everyone trying to convince the decision makers who is most eloquent interpreting the agreed

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-04 Thread Lennart Thornros
> > *From:* Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> > *Sent:* Friday, September 04, 2015 9:26 AM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl > > > *From:* Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson > > > > Ø IMHO, nuclear physics will not b

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-04 Thread Axil Axil
Jones is always on point. Accepted science is sending huge amounts to find the cause for Dark Matter. We know that Dark Matter is a result of Rydberg matter that exists as a preferred form of hydrogen that is spread widely throughout the universe. The people at the LHC will spend additional

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-04 Thread Axil Axil
http://phys.org/news/2015-08-theory-radiationless-revolution.html Note: this point "The theory could have broad ranging applications from explaining dark matter to combating energy losses in future technologies." If you want to get into how Dark mode solitons and plasmoids can produce mass in

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-04 Thread Axil Axil
http://arxiv.org/abs/1211.0503 See how anapole EMF solitons satisfy experimental observations. On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:13 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > http://phys.org/news/2013-06-simple-theory-dark.html > > Read this for more background on anapole EMF concentration. > > On

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-04 Thread Axil Axil
http://phys.org/news/2013-06-simple-theory-dark.html Read this for more background on anapole EMF concentration. On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > http://phys.org/news/2015-08-theory-radiationless-revolution.html > > Note: this point > > "The theory could

RE: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-04 Thread Jones Beene
From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson Ø IMHO, nuclear physics will not be destroyed by the advent of LENR. I think it will adapt. Not only will it adapt, and it could thrive… Perhaps Big-Fizz is poised to claim priority and take ownership of the field. LENR could become the

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-04 Thread Axil Axil
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?bibcode=2002MNRAS.333..360B_key=AST_ind=0_select=NO_type=GIF=SCREEN_GIF=YES Start out with the reference above and we will progress step by step to show that Rydberg matter will satisfy all experimental observations that connects LENR

RE: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-04 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Cook, ... > As Jones pointed out—they should have and should now “think small and modular > “. Several years ago I recall reading a Kiplinger Forecast that stated there are smaller modular oriented nuclear power designs in the works. I seem to recall Toshiba may be one of

RE: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-04 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Axil: > We know that Dark Matter is a result of Rydberg matter that > exists as a preferred form of hydrogen that is spread widely > throughout the universe. FWIW, it disturbs me to no end reading a Vort post that portrays speculative assumptions (however tantalizing those

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-03 Thread Axil Axil
The advent of LENR will destroy nuclear physics. The nuclear engineers instinctively realize that their field will be discarded from the knowledge base of humankind; and gladly so. This may be the reason why nuclear engineers are trying their best to destroy LENR. I would think that a LENR company

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-03 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Thanks to you both. It may be good that this happened. Fred represents what much of the establishment thinks. He, however, says it directly. This should prove to be quite a story when cold fusion pans out. Frank -Original Message-

RE: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-03 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Axil, > The advent of LENR will destroy nuclear physics. ... Where have I heard phrases like this before? Oh yes, over at Dr. Mills' SCP group. Just substitute "SunCell technology" for "LENR" and I think you'd fit right in with the BLP cheering squad. I've heard phrases

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

2015-09-03 Thread Axil Axil
If there was no need for nuclear power, there would be no need for uranium enrichment or plutonium production. Without the need for engineers to keep nuclear power plants going, their would be no knowhow to produce H-bombs. Nuclear power plants permits nuclear bomb technology to exist. LENR will