Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Gee .. a very bland summary on wiki lasted all of 2 minutes : In September 2013 the Swedish Electrical Utilities’ R D Company Elforsk . . . Do you mean you added this to the Wikipedia cold fusion article? And within 2 minutes someone erased it? They

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-26 Thread Alain Sepeda
we should propose to the erased a contract: - if the LENR is proven you are fired or you let the data leak. normally he will wait to be fired because of Groupthink collective Delusion. 2013/10/26 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Gee .. a very bland

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-26 Thread Alain Sepeda
more diplomatically I make a contribution. no edit... I keep the evidences (as pdf) http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2481-Wikipedia-self-appointed-guardian-erased-Elforsk-article-in-2-minutesp=5906#post5906 2013/10/26 Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com we should propose to the

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-25 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:32:29 PM Gee .. a very bland summary on wiki lasted all of 2 minutes : In September 2013 the Swedish Electrical Utilities’ R D Company Elforsk included in their Perspectives report a two-page section on [[Cold

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I recall seeing a link to slides somewhere on this list with advice to people giving demos -- something to the effect that you should demo an earlier model rather than your latest one. Sure. That's often prudent. The latest version may not be debugged.

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-24 Thread Alain Sepeda
another good reason not to show your latest model is - avoiding triggering fierce fear from competitors http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/FF_doc/2009-06-25_NASA-GRC-Millis_AnomalousHeatEffect.pdf ( extract is summarized there

RE: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Sunil Shah
An overview is to be expected. The final paragraph says: There are an estimated 20 something players, who in one way or another are active or doing research in the cold fusion domain. On behalf of Elforsk, an overview of the current stance in research, findings, etc., is being compiled. The

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Impressive. Looks like Elforsk has decided that the May report has some merit. This is definitely an event which increases the probability of what Rossi is doing will work. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: An overview is to be expected. The final

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Alain Sepeda
It is a finding from david...he posted it on the forum. probably from the mouth of the horse... ;-) 2013/10/23 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Alain: Thanks for posting this. Do you know where the original Swedish document is? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Impressive. Looks like Elforsk has decided that the May report has some merit. As noted they already said that in the previous press release: The measurements show that the catalyst gives substantially more energy than can be explained by

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Alain Sepeda
I agree that Elforsk and all evidence we have don't eliminate the risk that E-cat does not work well... that it is unstable, unreliable, or have problems... what this article rules out is that e-cat does not exist, is not working at all, is a fraud... of course some will try to stick on their

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that Elforsk and all evidence we have don't eliminate the risk that E-cat does not work well... that it is unstable, unreliable, or have problems... Yes. On the contrary, the ELFORSK paper shows that it is unstable. It melted! The Hotcat

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
By the way, there is NOTHING wrong with a crude prototype device. See the first transistor: http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/talk/transistor.gif An early Diesel engine, probably better than the prototype that exploded:

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: If they had something like a commercial prototype years ago, suitable for testing, why are they still working with this crude gadget? I recall seeing a link to slides somewhere on this list with advice to people giving

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain: Thanks for posting this. Do you know where the original Swedish document is? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-22 Thread Alan Fletcher
- Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:21:22 PM Thanks for posting this. Do you know where the original Swedish document is?

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-22 Thread Frank Acland
This will take you to the original Swedish document http://www.elforsk.se/Global/Trycksaker%20och%20broschyrer/elforsk_perspektiv_nr2_2013.pdf On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: -- *From: *Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Thank you! Frank Acland ecatwo...@gmail.com wrote: This will take you to the original Swedish document http://www.elforsk.se/Global/Trycksaker%20och%20broschyrer/elforsk_perspektiv_nr2_2013.pdf