RE: [Vo]:LENR in a battery?

2018-03-17 Thread JonesBeene
As I thought, this is an application not a granted patent. The confusion arises because the inventor in the text of the Abstract calls it a Patent but a closer look shows that to be a mischaracterization. There is a publication date for an Abstract as well as for a Patent. The inventor does

Re: [Vo]:LENR in a battery?

2018-03-17 Thread MJ
    It can be dowloaded here:     http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat20180059704.pdf     Mark Jordan On 17-Mar-18 05:03, Nigel Dyer wrote: It appears to be a real patent, finally published on March 1st https://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair Nigel On 17/03/2018 01:53, JonesBeene wrote:

Re: [Vo]:LENR in a battery?

2018-03-17 Thread Nigel Dyer
It appears to be a real patent visible if you go to https://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair and search for 15/330,224 Nigel On 17/03/2018 01:53, JonesBeene wrote: Strange that there is no patent number – only an application number but they call it a patent. Justia has been know to

Re: [Vo]:LENR in a battery?

2018-03-17 Thread Nigel Dyer
It appears to be a real patent, finally published on March 1st https://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair Nigel On 17/03/2018 01:53, JonesBeene wrote: Strange that there is no patent number – only an application number but they call it a patent. Justia has been know to screw up in the past

RE: [Vo]:LENR in a battery?

2018-03-16 Thread JonesBeene
Strange that there is no patent number – only an application number but they call it a patent. Justia has been know to screw up in the past and the Inventor: Victor M. Villalobos has claimed fantastical inventions before. I would love to see this proved with an actual experiment - but as of

Re: [Vo]:LENR in a battery?

2018-03-16 Thread Nigel Dyer
And there is this 'Zero Point Energy Magnetic Battery' https://patents.justia.com/patent/20180059704 Nigel On 15/03/2018 13:53, JonesBeene wrote: The recent announcement from University of Texas of a far more powerful solid-state "glass” battery technology from John Goodenough's lab has

RE: [Vo]:LENR in a battery?

2018-03-15 Thread Chris Zell
I think the critical issue is not a Maxwell’s Demon definition per se but rather is it a violation of thermodynamics, as the Demon is thought to be? From: JonesBeene <jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:59 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:LENR in a b

RE: [Vo]:LENR in a battery?

2018-03-15 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Jones, Axil, Jed, Adrian, Chris, etal., I have found the recent items (old and new) identified here on Vortex during the last week very informative. Vortex is like a self charging battery IMHO. THANKS TO ALL. Bob Cook From: JonesBeene

RE: [Vo]:LENR in a battery?

2018-03-15 Thread JonesBeene
Maxwell’s demon is usually interpreted to imply some kind of sorting mechanism which discriminates among particles in order to produce at least two populations which vary in a desired property. The property does not have to be heat – here is one based on photonics.

RE: [Vo]:LENR in a battery?

2018-03-15 Thread Chris Zell
If you gain from ambient heat, is that a Maxwell’s Demon sort of violation?

RE: [Vo]:LENR in a battery?

2018-03-15 Thread JonesBeene
Is the self-charging battery a new type of pico-electret storage device ? Consider 3 devices as a progression over time: the electret, the EESTOR and the glass battery of Goodenough. In the late 1930s the Electret was invented by Dr. Eguchi, a Japanese physicist. He sandwiched a decent