Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 16:24 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: What is it with flying cars? It seems like the worst idea ever. Why not just rent a car at the airport? Even small airports usually have them. Anyway, here is the latest: http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/04/03/flying_cars_terrafugia_announced_flying_car_has_made_first_flight.html - Jed It's another degree of freedom. For those of us who are private pilots, we have a tremendous range of territory at our finger tips. We can fly 1,000 miles for a weekend trip, but many airports don't have rental cars readily available, and the terms of the lease are such that it's impractical to rent a car for a short period of time. If we can land, drive around town for a couple of hours, take-off, then land at another airport, with ground transportation readily available, then the world will be at our fingertips... finally! Craig
Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car
I agree that this one is particularly ugly. I liked the one that was in the Dutch news this week better: http://pal-v.com/ In some respect it has much in common with a trailer boat. It gives you the option to take it to another place to launch from and it gives you better storage/parking options. In many places the price of renting parking (hangar) space for your plane is a substantial part of operational expenses when owning a plane. A flying car has the advantage that you do not have to leave it at the airport per se, and that it fits in more or less normal sized garages at cheaper locations and under your own guard. Andre On 04/04/2012 06:45 AM, Craig Haynie wrote: On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 16:24 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: What is it with flying cars? It seems like the worst idea ever. Why not just rent a car at the airport? Even small airports usually have them. Anyway, here is the latest: http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/04/03/flying_cars_terrafugia_announced_flying_car_has_made_first_flight.html - Jed It's another degree of freedom. For those of us who are private pilots, we have a tremendous range of territory at our finger tips. We can fly 1,000 miles for a weekend trip, but many airports don't have rental cars readily available, and the terms of the lease are such that it's impractical to rent a car for a short period of time. If we can land, drive around town for a couple of hours, take-off, then land at another airport, with ground transportation readily available, then the world will be at our fingertips... finally! Craig
Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car
They will become extremely popular and accessible to non pilots when robotic control and guidance through GPS (similar to google cars) would be available. Mass production would bring the price down and it will resolve many problems in terms of traffic and parking in urban centers (people could park on roofs for example). Giovanni On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: What is it with flying cars? It seems like the worst idea ever. Why not just rent a car at the airport? Even small airports usually have them. Anyway, here is the latest: http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/04/03/flying_cars_terrafugia_announced_flying_car_has_made_first_flight.html - Jed
[Vo]:Another positive BusinessLine article from Jan. 3
See: http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/article2772029.ece
Re: [Vo]:Flying electrostatic antennas
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:18 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: Trouble is, the natural sky current is well under a microamp per square meter. So a metallized kite would need to be a bit large in order to collect only kilowatts. Better would be to artifically break down the air, or inject a huge ion current: harnessed, low-level lightning discharges. What is the Vret path on this sky battery? Somehow the circuit must be closed. I assume the Vret goes to earth; but, is the circuit completed by evaporation with a charge on each water molecule? This would must impact world weather somehow! T
Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car
Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: They will become extremely popular and accessible to non pilots when robotic control and guidance through GPS (similar to google cars) would be available. I discuss this in the book. I do not think these will be popular in urban areas because they would clutter up the sky. The solution to the traffic problem is to stop going places. Reduce commuting distances with full screen video telecommuting from home and from satellite offices. Mass production would bring the price down and it will resolve many problems in terms of traffic and parking in urban centers (people could park on roofs for example). People already park on roofs. Rooftop parking lots are common. You could not park aircraft on the roof unless it was designed to hold the weight, and if it was designed to hold the weight, you can park cars there now, with a short access ramp. - Jed
[Vo]:What people knew in '42
It is sometime said that nuclear power and nuclear bombs came as a complete surprise to the public in 1945. Not true. Here are some quotes from a magazine article W. Davis, Behind the Scenes in Science, Free World, November 1942. Note the last paragraph. For years the length of the waves of visible light seemed to limit the size of what the human eye could see. Then it was found that streams of electrons, which may be considered particles of matter in one aspect and the essence of electricity in another, would act very much like light of very much shorter wave length. It was possible to extend the exploration of the minute reaches of space and make pictures of things that could not be seen with optical microscopes with conventional lenses of the finest sort. Germs turned out to have different structure than was imagined when they were enlarged 20,000 or even 50,00o diameters. Common substances, such as some of the widely used chemicals, were discovered to be very different from the previous conceptions. . . . The electron microscope can also be used to peer into the interior of minute objects and determine their molecular structure. In this modification the photograph obtained is not a picture of what the material would look like if we could see such minute objects, but it is a diffraction pattern which allows the physicist to tell how the atoms are arranged in the molecules. . . . In a very different way, electrons of extraordinary speed and energy are being used in the world's most powerful X-ray machines. A special machine called the induced electron accelerator whirls electrons to such high speed that a machine actually in operation produces X-rays of 20 million volts while a new machine is designed for 100 million volt Xrays. A massive concrete building with walls 3 feet thick is necessary to house this powerful machine with safety. It will be used to test armor plate, but the fact that loo million volt X-rays have the wave length of the weaker cosmic rays causes the speculation that something new about the structure of the universe may be discovered when scientists have had the opportunity of working with such powerful radiation. Hidden behind the cloak of secrecy that surrounds military research is any progress that is being made on the extraction of power from within the uranium atom through splitting it asunder. From the heavens comes evidence that atomic fission similar to that of uranium 235, on which hopes of atomic power on this earth are based, takes place in the sun's corona, that system of luminous streamers which surrounds the sun and is visible only at a total solar eclipse. . . . [The article ends with sentiments you do not see often these days:] These benefits of science are not merely the material things produced for fighting and living. They are of the spirit. Using the ways of science there is hope that men will yet understand the ways of men, the insanities of dictators, and the possibility of material and mental satisfaction for everyone on this planet. It is hardly too much to expect that people who launch a ship every few hours and fly away an airplane every few minutes will be defeated by the human factor in the task of setting the world to rights.
[Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The Japanese will be at the tender mercies of the Chinese for the rare earth materials absolutely required to produce and manufacture this green stuff. But like Germany, they will be forced to buy it from the Chinese at whatever the market will bear. That is silly. This whole rare earths controversy has been blow out of proportion. The U.S. and Canada could outproduce China in rare earths starting a few years from now. The U.S. was the world's biggest producer until recently, and we have not run out. We stopped because the Chinese mine the stuff at a lower cost, because they ignore mining safety and environmental regulations. (They have such regulations, but they ignore them.) U.S. production is now restarting. The Chinese have temporarily cornered the market by driving others out of the business. Naturally, they will jack up the cost and try to hurt the Japanese manufacturers. Any business would do that if they could get away with it. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths
*The Chinese have temporarily cornered the market by driving others out of the business. Naturally, they will jack up the cost and try to hurt the Japanese manufacturers. Any business would do that if they could get away with it.* I agree, the Chinese have used the supply of rare earths to corners the green energy market. China wants to be the world’s exclusive provider of green energy. Recently, when the US invested $3 billion to jump start solar, China invested $30 billion as a counter. Why should the US do anything different from China? After all, The US sells oil on the international market at the price OPEC sets. If the US wants to be a player in green energy, they would be out of their heads to sell Japan the keys to the green kingdom at rock bottom prices. The US will build the windmills and solar panels and sell them to Japan at the price that China sets (AKA international cartel). Why would the US want Japan or Germany as competitors in the Green energy market? The US does not want to lose the green market to Japan or Germany. Remember the US wants jobs, jobs, jobs… especially green jobs and they will use rare earths as leverage to get those jobs... which is, if they are smart…America hasn’t been too smart in international trade strategy of late so if they do the smart thing…the RIGHT thing… is another question. On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The Japanese will be at the tender mercies of the Chinese for the rare earth materials absolutely required to produce and manufacture this green stuff. But like Germany, they will be forced to buy it from the Chinese at whatever the market will bear. That is silly. This whole rare earths controversy has been blow out of proportion. The U.S. and Canada could outproduce China in rare earths starting a few years from now. The U.S. was the world's biggest producer until recently, and we have not run out. We stopped because the Chinese mine the stuff at a lower cost, because they ignore mining safety and environmental regulations. (They have such regulations, but they ignore them.) U.S. production is now restarting. The Chinese have temporarily cornered the market by driving others out of the business. Naturally, they will jack up the cost and try to hurt the Japanese manufacturers. Any business would do that if they could get away with it. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths
Von: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 19:03 Mittwoch, 4.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths I agree, the Chinese have used the supply of rare earths to corners the green energy market. Axil, The overall strategy of the Chinese is still not recognized, due to the blindness of western free-market capitalist managers. Right now, Q-cells (Germany) , once the worlds largest manufacturer of solar cells, went bankrupt. The German solar industry is basically collapsing right now. The argument for non-interventionism is, that the western industrial nations should concentrate on high-tech, and not economy of scale, where German and other companies deliver complerte factories to China, because this is their expertise. Do some thinking, and you see that this is completely nonsensical, and is an invention of the managerial class, which mainly looks after quarterly profits. Western capitalism currently sells its western IP-stock out to China. Why? Because the Chinese found out, that the weak spot of the West is the delusions of the managerial caste of the West,m and its delusional concept of short-term-profit-maximization. Everything is for sale for a quarterly profit. In a time of backdoor trojans. who enter the whole system, the strategy of western corporations seems to be beyond the ridiculous. Thats it. G.
Re: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths
Von:Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 19:58 Mittwoch, 4.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths This, btw, has nothing to do with opening up US-rare-earth mines, as Jed opined. This is just a reverberation of western free-market-capitalist ideology, which bases its belief on that money/scarcity buys resources, which it evidently does not. Whether this is due to a endemic dumbing down of western capitalism, because it is not the 'captains of industry' of ancient times any more, who identify needs, but the captains of financial casino-capitalism, who seem to not know a bit about 'real wealth', I leave to the reader. We are walking on a suicide-trail, led by a bunch of testosterone-deluded scam-artists, who believe in a virtualized society, doing no real work. G.
[Vo]:Nuclear drones
Nuclear drones The military applications of LENR are game changing. If Rossi has shown the DOD anything LENR capability at all, the military would have bit down hard on the LENR military potential. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/02/us-plans-nuclear-drones *US draws up plans for nuclear drones* * * * * * * *Technology is designed to increase flying time 'from days to months', along with power available for weapons systems* Surveillance and attack drones are central to current US military strategy; there is a critical need for such drones to maintain station keeping for long periods ranging up to many months. But the current generation of nuclear drones poses a risk of nuclear contamination and subversion if the drone is downed in hostile territory. A LERN drone would be an ideal power source since LENR contamination is not possible. A LENR drone is a green drone. In the event of a crash of a LENR drone, no worldwide anti-American nuclear scare propaganda can be applied by the subject of the drone’s action. *Coles believes the increasing sophistication of drones poses many threats: As they become low-cost, low-risk alternatives to conventional warfare, the threshold for their use will inevitably drop. The consequences are not being thought through.* If I haven’t missed my guess, a design LENR for a drone is on the drawing board somewhere in the close vicinity of Rossi’s office. As robots take over the US war fighting function, LENR will be at their heart.
Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones
What on earth are they thinking of powering these with? Plutonium? - Jed
[Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths
your vision seems right. not only delusion, but also despair need to sell. About delusion of the elite, it is coherent with the theory of Roland Benabou http://www.princeton.edu/%7Erbenabou/papers.html that I often cite http://www.lenrforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3t=40, which can explain LENR denial, subprime, Chalenger crash, Enron... At this level, the decider cannot accept that their are in a dead end, that they have to surrender their wealth, and drop their ideology (like free market). An the opposite Chinese government is at the edge of nationalist collapse, and Chinese have followed the crash or USSR. and learn from Gorbachev that you should not liberalize the politic before the economy... but if economy became bad, china explode like USSR. Also China is mentally the most capitalist country in the world, much before USA. they know how to bargain and manipulate the kids from baby countries that do business (even Europe for Chinese is a young civilization). On the other side in Europe, we are fascinated by free markets theory, and European commission implement it like a religion, not even with the hypocritical defense that US master... Add to that Environmentalist lobbying to complicate all... EC regulation is plain stupid. 2012/4/4 Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com -- *Von:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com *An:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Gesendet:* 19:03 Mittwoch, 4.April 2012 *Betreff:* Re: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths I agree, the Chinese have used the supply of rare earths to corners the green energy market. Axil, The overall strategy of the Chinese is still not recognized, due to the blindness of western free-market capitalist managers. Right now, Q-cells (Germany) , once the worlds largest manufacturer of solar cells, went bankrupt. The German solar industry is basically collapsing right now. The argument for non-interventionism is, that the western industrial nations should concentrate on high-tech, and not economy of scale, where German and other companies deliver complerte factories to China, because this is their expertise. Do some thinking, and you see that this is completely nonsensical, and is an invention of the managerial class, which mainly looks after quarterly profits. Western capitalism currently sells its western IP-stock out to China. Why? Because the Chinese found out, that the weak spot of the West is the delusions of the managerial caste of the West,m and its delusional concept of short-term-profit-maximization. Everything is for sale for a quarterly profit. In a time of backdoor trojans. who enter the whole system, the strategy of western corporations seems to be beyond the ridiculous. Thats it. G.
Re: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths
Von: Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com An: Vortex List vortex-l@eskimo.com; Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com Gesendet: 21:44 Mittwoch, 4.April 2012 Betreff: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths your vision seems right. Thanks guys. There seem to be some sane people out there. Even in the LENR-crowd! Or BECAUSE of their dissident beliefs. Anyway. We have to keep a critical distance, may it be about LENR or the pragnatic takeover of the Chinese, who do not care a bit about our -ahem- delusions, whatever they are. Remember: The Chinese play 'Go', the Westerners play 'chess' on the SAME playing field, which is the world at large, and not a game, as imagined by the managerical class of glass-bead players, as Hermann Hesse would have said in a different context. G.
Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones
Maybe. Pu238. This is what NASA uses for space probes to the outer planets. Very bad stuff. On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: What on earth are they thinking of powering these with? Plutonium? - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe. Pu238. This is what NASA uses for space probes to the outer planets. I can't imagine they would use it. The cost is somewhere between $1 million and $10 million per kilogram! Source: Broad, W., U.S. Has Plans To Again Make Own Plutonium, in New York Times. 2005 - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones
This huge cost for a nuclear heat source no matter which one they selectedis extreme motivation to use LENR. One Rossi heat unit only costs a few hundred. On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe. Pu238. This is what NASA uses for space probes to the outer planets. I can't imagine they would use it. The cost is somewhere between $1 million and $10 million per kilogram! Source: Broad, W., U.S. Has Plans To Again Make Own Plutonium, in New York Times. 2005 - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: This huge cost for a nuclear heat source no matter which one they selectedis extreme motivation to use LENR. One Rossi heat unit only costs a few hundred. Sure. I can't imagine trying this without LENR. But I expect the people doing this project have never heard of LENR. The Sandia document does not say a thing: http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/sand-uav.pdf QUOTE: . . . Various DOE laboratory and contractor personnel and facilities could have been used to perform detailed engineering, fabrication, assembly and test operations including follow-on operational support. None of the results are currently in use by DOE and it is doubtful that they will be used in the near-term or mid-term future. Currently, none of the results can be shared openly with the public due to national security constraints. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones
Sure. I can't imagine trying this without LENR. Why does a $12 million nuclear drone make economic sense to the US military? Such a drone can replace a platoon of soldier in Afghanistan. A platoon is a military unit typically composed of two - four sections or squads and containing 16 to 50 soldiers. $1.2 million is the cost of supporting a soldier in Afghanistan for a year. Of course, the least of that is wages or salary for the soldiers themselves. Most of it is due to the sheer lack of infrastructure in Afghanistan; its geographical position as a landlock nation. And the biggest single item in this? Fuel costs. Per troop deployed: $200,000 to $350,000 a year just in fuel costs. With all this heavy stuff that's coming in now, that number's probably going to go up as the oil prices are going up. And then there are the payola and road tolls to Pakistan. This cost structure of logistics is similar to supporting and astronaut on the moon. Since that veteran will also be supported throughout his life in terms of medical, educational, and other vet benefits, the life time cost of that soldier is some multiple of 1.2 million per year. If the military can replace that platoon with a robot, a $12 million drone is a bargain. On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: This huge cost for a nuclear heat source no matter which one they selected is extreme motivation to use LENR. One Rossi heat unit only costs a few hundred. Sure. I can't imagine trying this without LENR. But I expect the people doing this project have never heard of LENR. The Sandia document does not say a thing: http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/sand-uav.pdf QUOTE: . . . Various DOE laboratory and contractor personnel and facilities could have been used to perform detailed engineering, fabrication, assembly and test operations including follow-on operational support. None of the results are currently in use by DOE and it is doubtful that they will be used in the near-term or mid-term future. Currently, none of the results can be shared openly with the public due to national security constraints. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones
Short of using a LENR type device on board a drone, my guess is they would use Americium 241 in an Alpha-Voltaic configuration. At 02:24 PM 4/4/2012, you wrote: Axil Axil mailto:janap...@gmail.comjanap...@gmail.com wrote: This huge cost for a nuclear heat source no matter which one they selected is extreme motivation to use LENR. One Rossi heat unit only costs a few hundred. Sure. I can't imagine trying this without LENR. But I expect the people doing this project have never heard of LENR. The Sandia document does not say a thing: http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/sand-uav.pdfhttp://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/sand-uav.pdf QUOTE: . . . Various DOE laboratory and contractor personnel and facilities could have been used to perform detailed engineering, fabrication, assembly and test operations including follow-on operational support. None of the results are currently in use by DOE and it is doubtful that they will be used in the near-term or mid-term future. Currently, none of the results can be shared openly with the public due to national security constraints. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones
Robert Dorr rod...@comcast.net wrote: Short of using a LENR type device on board a drone, my guess is they would use Americium 241 in an Alpha-Voltaic configuration. Drones are large machines. The engine is about 100 HP in the Predator. (Rotax 914 engine.) Am-241 exists in only small amounts and it costs a lot of money. $1500/g. They use tiny amounts in smoke detectors. I can't imagine anyone making a 100 HP motor with either Am or Pu. It would be a piece of cake with a Rossi device. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:The Fukushima disaster -- 34 meter tsunamis?
If a thief wanted to steal wholesale the wealth of a community, he would first disable the cop on the beat and make sure that this source of property protection is disabled for as long as possible. In like manner, if a competitor country wanted to steal the commercial base of another country, first it would buy politicos to relax trade and corporate regulations to motivate the tendency of corporate officers to look to their own self interests in a me first management attitude and then motivate his company to transfer jobs and technology to the bandit country. Forign contributions to Super-packs are secret and may well be used by a bandit country to accomplish this subversive trade strategy. The best type of Congress for the international transfer of wealth from a victim country to the bandit country is one in governmental gridlock. The best type of executive branch is one that relaxes or removes corporate regulations to give the ‘me first’ corporate executive his full head and allows him to ignore his duty to his country to pad his own bank account. Ironically, the lobbyists employed by the bandit country can say they want to maximize liberty for all the people living in the victim country as they pick their pockets clean. On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Jarold McWilliams oldja...@hotmail.comwrote: A democracy is a horrible form of government. Sad but true. Dictatorships are much better, and you don't have people making decisions based on irrational fear and emotions. Dictatorships are better governments, until they're not. And they have a bad habit of being overthrown in violent revolutions and coups. If I were to place a long bet on the stability of a country, I would go with the helter-skelter of a democracy over the forced calm of an unrepresentative dictatorship. As Churchill once remarked, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time. Nonetheless, I suspect the democracies of the world are going to have to get their acts together and impose a little authoritarian discipline upon themselves in order to survive in the emerging global order. Here's to hoping that cold fusion will throw a complete wrench in the works and wreak delightful havoc. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones
You would need close to a megawatt of heat to get 100 hp at low conversion efficiency. Maybe this is why Rossi is working hard to miniaturize his core unit to the size of a small note book or smaller. In a standard industrial deployment, size of the reactor does not matter much. But when deployed in a military drone, the size must be reduced to as small as possible. Herein may be Rossi’s motivation to miniaturize the E-Cat. On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Dorr rod...@comcast.net wrote: Short of using a LENR type device on board a drone, my guess is they would use Americium 241 in an Alpha-Voltaic configuration. Drones are large machines. The engine is about 100 HP in the Predator. (Rotax 914 engine.) Am-241 exists in only small amounts and it costs a lot of money. $1500/g. They use tiny amounts in smoke detectors. I can't imagine anyone making a 100 HP motor with either Am or Pu. It would be a piece of cake with a Rossi device. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Flying electrostatic antennas
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Terry Blanton wrote: What is the Vret path on this sky battery? It's mostly from thunderstorms: lightning and neg-charged rain. Conventional theory of the Earth Global Circuit has thunderstorms as electrostatic generators which on average deliver neg. charge downwards and pos. charge upwards. Everywhere else on Earth the slight air conductivity lets charges leak back down. I remember one calc that showed the RC time constant being about a second, so local e-field should reflect what worldwide thunderstorms are doing. E-field measurements with a field-mill normally show a 24hr cycle from 100V/M to 300V/M. I've heard that the peak occurs when African coastal thunderstorms turn on during the local afternoon. 2011 overview paper http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijgp/2011/971302/ Here at the UW we have a realtime tracking program for worldwide lightning pulses at 100KHz, with lots of remote antennas. 2D distribution comes from sort of a cat scan type of algorithm. http://webflash.ess.washington.edu/ Aha, they're now talking about a remote volcano detector: using the lightning network to immediately sense ash cloud eruptions. Lightning at know volcanoes realtime hourly http://flash3.ess.washington.edu/USGS/Global/ Somehow the circuit must be closed. I assume the Vret goes to earth; but, is the circuit completed by evaporation with a charge on each water molecule? This would must impact world weather somehow! I recall old papers about rainstorms: the colliding cloud droplets normally bounce and do not meld together, but provide a weak e-field and it overcomes the surface-energy issues, and forces droplet-melding. The same can be seen in simple desktop experiments: clean water splashed on a clean wet surface will roll as distinct beads of water, and not meld. But hold a charged balloon a few feet away, and the rolling water balls all meld into the wet surface and vanish. So, new way to destroy civilization: short out the vertical e-field, which keeps cloud droplets from becoming raindrops, shutting down global rain as well as the thunderstorms creating the worldwide e-field? :) But volcano ash clouds would probably re-start things again. That, and winter thunder snow storms. Whew. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: The solution to the traffic problem is to stop going places. Reduce commuting distances with full screen video telecommuting from home and from satellite offices. Agreed. Make cities beautiful and livable and compact enough for people to get around by foot and use mass transit. This is the pattern of European cities. Many American cities had the misfortune of expanding when the automobile was becoming common and people were infatuated with the freedom of movement they allow. People don't appear to have appreciated how much strip malls, traffic, automobile pollution and urban sprawl would detract from their quality of life. It's possible to increase urban population density without getting rid of cars altogether. They can be kept in compact garages near the outskirts of a city. Flying cars would only add to the noise and clutter. Eric
[Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation
Lewis Larsen (Lattice Energy LLC) has posted a new presentation entitled - Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENRs) New neutron data consistent with WLS mechanism in lightning - at - http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen He presents evidence that electrons and protons in coherent/collective motion on metal hydride surfaces, where e-m energy is highly focused, can form low momentum neutrons which initiate LENR events. Slides 18-20 (Nucleosynthesis in exploding wires and lightning I-III) review the very old (1922) controversy between Wendt and Rutherford on whether large current pulses through tungsten wires could induce transmutations. (See preprint: http://arxiv.org/pdf/0709.1222.pdf). Wendt, using intense current pulses of strongly inductively coupled electrons, saw transmutations, whereas Rutherford, using a sparse beam of uncoupled high velocity electrons, saw none. Rutherford's eminence trumped Wendt's more modest reputation. Now, this cannot be a difficult, nor expensive, experiment to reproduce - using Wendt's procedure, not Rutherford's. Has anyone tried to reproduce it?
Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car
Evacuated Tube Transports would be way more beneficial than flying cars. http://www.et3.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92dK_yxaKvk On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: The solution to the traffic problem is to stop going places. Reduce commuting distances with full screen video telecommuting from home and from satellite offices. Agreed. Make cities beautiful and livable and compact enough for people to get around by foot and use mass transit. This is the pattern of European cities. Many American cities had the misfortune of expanding when the automobile was becoming common and people were infatuated with the freedom of movement they allow. People don't appear to have appreciated how much strip malls, traffic, automobile pollution and urban sprawl would detract from their quality of life. It's possible to increase urban population density without getting rid of cars altogether. They can be kept in compact garages near the outskirts of a city. Flying cars would only add to the noise and clutter. Eric
