[Vo]:Exotic Casimir energy proposals for cavatation

2012-11-27 Thread Axil Axil
Exotic proposals for cavatation An unusually exotic theory of sonoluminescence, which has received much popular attention, is the Casimir energy theory suggested by noted physicist Julian Schwingerand more thoroughly considered in a paper by Claudia Eberleinof the University of Sussex.

[Vo]:Sasquatch Sequenced

2012-11-27 Thread Terry Blanton
http://dnadiagnostics.com/press.html The genome sequencing shows that Sasquatch mtDNA is identical to modern Homo sapiens, but Sasquatch nuDNA is a novel, unknown hominin related to Homo sapiens and other primate species. Our data indicate that the North American Sasquatch is a hybrid species,

Re: [Vo]:Centre for the Study of Existential Risk

2012-11-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: CSER is being launched at Cambridge University to protect us from Skynet: And now we have reassurance from the Pentagon: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/11/human-robot-kill The Pentagon wants to make perfectly clear

Re: [Vo]:Centre for the Study of Existential Risk

2012-11-27 Thread Alain Sepeda
between the demographic fears, debunked since decades (sorry, after 9 billion, humanity will reduce), the gibbs like it might be wrongly done or use, so just don't do it, the various fear about healt,, environment... and those existential fears tha get up to DoD or UNO, with debunked fear or

RE: [Vo]:E Mallove: LENR/Cold Fusion and Modern Physics: A Crisis Within a Crisis ???

2012-11-27 Thread Mike Carrell
Over the years, I have learned to read Mills’ very carefully. The present website is a milestone on a road ahead. His policy has been to publish his progress while building and protecting BLP’s patent position. I see hints of more tricks in the CIHT technology. He is at a point of establishing

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Time travelling at the movies

2012-11-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Their legs are shorter, I think. Check out this Ted Talk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELu9ARLo0jc

Re: [Vo]:E Mallove: LENR/Cold Fusion and Modern Physics: A Crisis Within a Crisis ???

2012-11-27 Thread Peter Gluck
Like Mike, I also hope Mills will cut the way for CIHT from milliwatts to Megawatts during my lifetime. Peter. On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote: Over the years, I have learned to read Mills’ very carefully. The present website is a milestone on a road

Re: [Vo]:E Mallove: LENR/Cold Fusion and Modern Physics: A Crisis Within a Crisis ???

2012-11-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote: He is at a point of establishing the CIHT technology,, but what the validators did and reported is not a commercial product. He has been at the point of doing something for the last 20 years. I get sick of hearing this. I stopped paying attention to him

Re: [Vo]:E Mallove: LENR/Cold Fusion and Modern Physics: A Crisis Within a Crisis ???

2012-11-27 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
For those, like Jed, who have watched the unfolding of the BLP/Rossi/Defkalion saga... some of it having gone on now for 20 years or more, it is understandable that many of them express doubt and frustration. Perhaps cynicism is an even better description to use here. Personally, I see

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Time travelling at the movies

2012-11-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Very interesting Terry!! And there is much more evidence of anomalous 'history' about the human species and its presence on the planet. Read Forbidden Archeology or the condensed version, Hidden History of the Human Race This is a comment from the Amazon.com page on Hidden History... and this is

[Vo]:microelectronic radiation dosimeter

2012-11-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
For those of you wanting to build your own radiation detector. http://www.teledynemicro.com/space/space_micro_dosimeter.asp With a footprint of 1.4 x 1.0 x 0.040 and a total weight of 20 grams, Teledyne Microelectronics' new Class K Space qualified radiation Micro Dosimeter is the

Re: [Vo]:Exotic Casimir energy proposals for cavatation

2012-11-27 Thread pagnucco
Axil, Severaol other preprints (most later published after peer-review) proposing speculative sonoluminescence theories are: Sonoluminescence and quantum optical heating http://arxiv.org/abs/0904.0885 Environment-induced heating in sonoluminescence experiments http://arxiv.org/abs/1207.7022

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Time travelling at the movies

2012-11-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:07 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Very interesting Terry!! And there is much more evidence of anomalous 'history' about the human species and its presence on the planet. Read Forbidden Archeology or the condensed version, Hidden History of the Human

Re: [Vo]:The value of pulsing in bursts

2012-11-27 Thread Jack Cole
Dear Axil, I think you are correct. I would only add one thing and that is that the loading current (DC) also appears to be necessary in electrolysis. I have been getting some interesting results using simultaneous DC and AC currents with 4 electrodes in the cell with the DC cathode placed in

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Time travelling at the movies

2012-11-27 Thread David Roberson
I agree Mark. All of the evidence should be openly discussed without filtering. I suspect that it is normal for the experts to push their views of reality upon us ignorant masses. How would anyone except for the experts be capable of finding the truth hidden under so many loose rocks? Also,

Re: [Vo]:E Mallove: LENR/Cold Fusion and Modern Physics: A Crisis Within a Crisis ???

2012-11-27 Thread Alain Sepeda
at least Defkalion with nelson can claim few hundred watt with good control 2012/11/27 OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com For those, like Jed, who have watched the unfolding of the BLP/Rossi/Defkalion saga... some of it having gone on now for 20 years or more, it is

[Vo]:Lattice Energy Paper from ANS Winter Meeting - Nov 2012

2012-11-27 Thread pagnucco
Discussion of Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions (3 page summary) Electroweak Neutron Production via e+p -- n+v and Capture During Lightning Discharges http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/larsen-lans-winter-meeting-san-diego-ca-04150417-nov-2012

Re: [Vo]:Centre for the Study of Existential Risk

2012-11-27 Thread Mark Gibbs
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote: the gibbs like it might be wrongly done or use, so just don't do it You should read what I write more carefully: I didn't say CF/LENR shouldn't be used but that possible unintended consequences should be considered.

Re: [Vo]:Centre for the Study of Existential Risk

2012-11-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote: You should read what I write more carefully: I didn't say CF/LENR shouldn't be used but that possible unintended consequences should be considered. That seems sensible to me. Perhaps you should write about some of the unintended benefits. We can avoid

Re: [Vo]:Centre for the Study of Existential Risk

2012-11-27 Thread Alain Sepeda
Ok, I exaggerate, it is a litte a strawman rhetoric... sorry. I'm inspired by less subtiles fearmonger on any subject that reach the media and even the politicians... managing risk is ok, but we should not forget the gain, to avoid the drawbacks... people forget a little that today situation is

[Vo]:Wigner effect?

2012-11-27 Thread Andy Findlay
Does anybody know of a sensible counter-argument (or maybe even a peer reviewed refutation) to the idea that the anomalous heat of cold-fusion/LENR might just be due to a Wigner-(like)-Effect? I had never heard of the Wigner Effect until a couple of days ago when I

Re: [Vo]:Wigner effect?

2012-11-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
The Wigner effect cannot produce megajoules per mole. Morrison never understood that concept. That is why he failed to see the significance of a cell that produced 1,700 more energy than any chemical source of energy could. See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Fleischmanreplytothe.pdf Perhaps he

Re: [Vo]:Wigner effect?

2012-11-27 Thread ChemE Stewart
If billions of neutrinos are flowing through all matter all of the time, if you pack enough hydrogen in a concentrated area you are bound to get a head on collision now or then leading to beta decay. Probably also leads to hydrogen embrittlement over time and maybe the gravitational acceleration

Re: [Vo]:E Mallove: LENR/Cold Fusion and Modern Physics: A Crisis Within a Crisis ???

2012-11-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: at least Defkalion with nelson can claim few hundred watt with good control I have not seen hard data from them. I mean quantitative information: instrument make and model, margin of error, power in, flow rate, temperatures, etc. Their presentation at

Re: [Vo]:Centre for the Study of Existential Risk

2012-11-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for that bad mood, I'm a bit fed up by our state of permanent fear... Recommended reading for you: http://www.amazon.com/State-Fear-Michael-Crichton/dp/0061782661

Re: [Vo]:E Mallove: LENR/Cold Fusion and Modern Physics: A Crisis Within a Crisis ???

2012-11-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: at least Defkalion with nelson can claim few hundred watt with good control I have not seen hard data from them. I mean quantitative information: instrument make and model, margin of error, power in, flow rate . . It may be that I have overlooked something they published. I

Re: [Vo]:Wigner effect?

2012-11-27 Thread Andy Findlay
Thanks for the link, Jed. I've only skimmed it (so far), but it has given me some insight into Morrison's stance on the issue. And yes, I also get annoyed by people who confuse power with energy (Rossi, conspicuously). However, the pdf does not mention the Wigner effect. You state that the

Re: [Vo]:Wigner effect?

2012-11-27 Thread Andy Findlay
I wasn't aware that hydrogen was capable of beta decay. Andy. On 27/11/12 23:03, ChemE Stewart wrote: If billions of neutrinos are flowing through all matter all of the time, if you pack enough hydrogen in a concentrated area you are bound to get a head

Re: [Vo]:Wigner effect?

2012-11-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Andy Findlay andy_find...@orange.net wrote: You state that the Wigner effect cannot produce megajoules per mole - well that is the sort of information I'm looking for but could you point me to a paper . . . According to ahem, cough, cough Wikipedia: Accumulation of energy in irradiated

Re: [Vo]:Wigner effect?

2012-11-27 Thread ChemE Stewart
Andy, Check out the picture on the link below http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino If it happens in the atmosphere we call it a warm sunny day. If it happens in a void with hydrogen in the dark we gaze in amazement and ask for money. Go figure. Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On Tuesday,

[Vo]:The near-term colonisation of Venus

2012-11-27 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Elon Musk has recently brought an idea of multi-planetary civilisation as a serious near-term issue. His goal is to establish Mars colony by 2023 and later retire and die in Mars. He has also envisioned the idea of larger scale Mars-colony. Last week he talked about 80 000 Martian citizens as

Re: [Vo]:Wigner effect?

2012-11-27 Thread ChemE Stewart
Do you suppose all of those climate models take into account the energy released to Earth through natural Beta decay and LENR reactions from billions of tons of neutrinos and other dark matter stuff? NOT. It also does not take into account what happens when a large dark matter nucleus from a

Re: [Vo]:The value of pulsing in bursts

2012-11-27 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: So far, I have seen excess heating in 10/13 experimental runs, compared with 0/4 in control runs using galvanized steel cathode. How far above background? Eric

Re: [Vo]:The value of pulsing in bursts

2012-11-27 Thread Jack Cole
It has varied from 7 to 25%. From looking at the control runs, it is up to 50% greater than would be expected (but I prefer the conservative estimate). Now with 13/16 runs. Also, I need to correct what I wrote previously. I should have written 0/8 control runs instead of 0/4. I am getting a

Re: [Vo]:Wigner effect?

2012-11-27 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Andy Findlay andy_find...@orange.netwrote: I wasn't aware that hydrogen was capable of beta decay. Beta minus decay is possible under extreme conditions. But you would need to temporarily place the hydrogen you wanted to decay on a core-collapsing star. Eric

[Vo]:Curiosity's historic discovery

2012-11-27 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
Or not. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2412567,00.asp Jeff

[Vo]:Apparently plausible (!?!?) FTL

2012-11-27 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive Has anyone competent to understand the arguments read the 1994 paper? Jeff

Re: [Vo]:Apparently plausible (!?!?) FTL

2012-11-27 Thread Eric Walker
Here are some relevant physics.SE questions: http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/38121/harold-whites-work-on-the-alcubierre-warp-drive http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/8850/alcubierre-drive-clarification-on-relativistic-effects The Alcubierre warp drive then has a serious

Re: [Vo]:Apparently plausible (!?!?) FTL

2012-11-27 Thread David Roberson
It would be fantastic if warp drives were possible, but they must not be available because we are not currently being over run by alien visitors. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2012 12:48 am Subject: