Re: [Vo]:Defkalion web site account suspended

2014-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: The MIT 2014 LENR Colloquium included in the agenda: Yiannis Hadjichristos Heat Energy from Hydrogen-Metal Interactions and the need for new Scientific Alliances but, I can't find anything on the web about the presentation. Does anyone have a

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion web site account suspended

2014-04-13 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Daniel: Alright, if Defkalion cannot answer for themselves, I am not going to do it anymore for free. I realize I'm probably misinterpreting the intent of your message, but the implication I'm making is that you may have been a paid shill for Defkalion. Needless to say, I do not

RE: [Vo]:The real chemical energy of nascent hydrogen

2014-04-13 Thread Jones Beene
To continue with the argument that chemical energy from hydrogen can be thermodynamically overunity without violating Conservation of Energy principles, and without any nuclear reaction - due to the ubiquity of interfacial positronium (the Dirac epo field at the interface of 3-space) there is an

Re: [Vo]:The real chemical energy of nascent hydrogen

2014-04-13 Thread ChemE Stewart
The only way a quantum theory of gravity is going to fly is by using extra dimensions decaying to gravitons. The atmosphere around pulsed microwave radar towers is donating protons and dissolving limestone, I have 50 years of data in Florida pointing to it around multiple towers. Our weather

[Vo]:Anti-Gravity -Electrostatic Force and Nobel Prize Laureate- Salam

2014-04-13 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex-L, There is a Electrogrtavitics Paper: Gravity as a Secondary Electrostatic Force by Professor Gupta of Luckow University, India. He was inspired by his mentor: Nobel Prize Laureate, Professor Abdus Salam University Trieste...who won the Nobel Prize for discovery of the

Re: [Vo]:Anti-Gravity -Electrostatic Force and Nobel Prize Laureate- Salam

2014-04-13 Thread Axil Axil
If magnetism is the first-order (velocity dependent) effect of moving electrons in conductor, gravitation is the second-order (acceleration-dependant) effect of revolving electrons in atoms. I have wonders why the magnetic field (the spin component of atoms) must rotate in anti-gravity devices to

Re: [Vo]:The real chemical energy of nascent hydrogen

2014-04-13 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- You stated: The textbook energy from burning hydrogen in oxygen is 2.85 eV per molecule of H2O Is that energy based on the differential mass of (H2 molecule + O2 molecule) and 2H2O molecules? Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To:

RE: [Vo]:The real chemical energy of nascent hydrogen

2014-04-13 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Bob Cook The textbook energy from burning hydrogen in oxygen is 2.85 eV per molecule of H2O Is that energy based on the differential mass of (H2 molecule + O2 molecule) and 2H2O molecules? Well yes, it can be stated that way - although it is a chemical

Re: [Vo]:The real chemical energy of nascent hydrogen

2014-04-13 Thread David Roberson
Jones, I am having a difficult time following your example. The diagram illustrating the energy balance appears to add up properly to me. If you take another reaction, such as burning of a liquid hydrocarbon, does your technique still demonstrate an unbalance? Any time I see a process that

Re: [Vo]:Anti-Gravity -Electrostatic Force and Nobel Prize Laureate- Salam

2014-04-13 Thread Steve High
Sheesh, Evgeny Podkletnov twenty years ago was spinning a superconducting disk at a high RPM. He noted a three percent loss of weight for objects placed above the disk. His work was pretty well documented as I recall although of course he lost his job at some Finnish university. This sounds

RE: [Vo]:The real chemical energy of nascent hydrogen

2014-04-13 Thread Jones Beene
From: David Roberson If you take another reaction, such as burning of a liquid hydrocarbon, does your technique still demonstrate an unbalance? No- bare protons must be present for positronium to get involved. We are talking about the need to reach an interface with another spatial

Re: [Vo]:anti-gravity

2014-04-13 Thread Steve High
Sheesh, Evgeny Podkletnov twenty years ago was spinning a superconducting disk at a high RPM. He noted a three percent loss of weight for objects placed above the disk. His work was pretty well documented as I recall although of course he lost his job at some Finnish university. This sounds

Re: [Vo]:Anti-Gravity -Electrostatic Force and Nobel Prize Laureate- Salam

2014-04-13 Thread Steve High
Uh-oh this was supposed to be attached to an earlier antigravity thread in answer to Dave Robinson's question. My apologies I will pay closer attention Steve High On Apr 13, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Steve High diamondweb...@gmail.com wrote: Sheesh, Evgeny Podkletnov twenty years ago was spinning a

Re: [Vo]:The real chemical energy of nascent hydrogen

2014-04-13 Thread Steve High
A question: what would be the net effect of all these extra electrons being pulled over from the Dirac Sea? Would this not eventually produce some kind of unholy electrostatic issue. Or worse? Steve High On Apr 13, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: From: David Roberson

RE: [Vo]:The real chemical energy of nascent hydrogen

2014-04-13 Thread Jones Beene
From: Steve High A question: what would be the net effect of all these extra electrons being pulled over from the Dirac Sea? Would this not eventually produce some kind of unholy electrostatic issue. Or worse? Good question, Steve. The

Re: [Vo]:The real chemical energy of nascent hydrogen

2014-04-13 Thread David Roberson
Perhaps there is a reaction of the type you are describing Jones. I cling to the classical ideas about COE and might overlook this system. My reason for asking about the hydrocarbon was that it is contains a great deal of hydrogen that must be stripped away from the carbon when burned. Once

Re: [Vo]:anti-gravity

2014-04-13 Thread David Roberson
Thanks for the link Steve. I am interesting in finding out more about this subject. For folks that suspect that there may be some truth to the stories about UFOs there must be some means of propulsion that is robust and capable of being operated by electricity. Perhaps Dr. Podkletnov has

RE: [Vo]:The real chemical energy of nascent hydrogen

2014-04-13 Thread Jones Beene
From: David Roberson My reason for asking about the hydrocarbon was that it is contains a great deal of hydrogen that must be stripped away from the carbon when burned. Once free, I would expect it to behave much like a broken apart hydrogen molecule. Do you understand why free hydrogen

Re: [Vo]:anti-gravity

2014-04-13 Thread fznidarsic
I met Martin Tjmar during one of my lectures. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/movies/jhu.wmv -Original Message- From: David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Apr 13, 2014 8:57 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:anti-gravity Thanks for the link Steve. I