Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-25 Thread Michel Jullian
a violation of energy conservation? No. Electric potential energy is decreasing somewhere, I'll let you find where :) ... ...We want to know, lol! :-) Oops I have found in the meantime that my initial explanation was wrong, so it's just as well I kept it to myself ;-) Electric

Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-25 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Michel Jullian wrote: a violation of energy conservation? No. Electric potential energy is decreasing somewhere, I'll let you find where :) ... ...We want to know, lol! :-) Oops I have found in the meantime that my initial explanation was wrong, so it's just as well I kept it to myself

[Vo]: China -A New Entry in the Magnetic Conversion of Zero Point Energy Has Surfaced!

2007-01-25 Thread OrionWorks
Vorts, FYI, Some of you might enjoy reading the following short clip recently posted out at zpenergy.com. See: http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=2206 http://tinyurl.com/3bkvey Perhaps Mark can share with us a little more about the details, that is without

Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-25 Thread Paul
Michel Jullian wrote: a violation of energy conservation? No. Electric potential energy is decreasing somewhere, I'll let you find where :) ... ...We want to know, lol! :-) Oops I have found in the meantime that my initial explanation was wrong, so it's just as well I kept it to

Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-25 Thread Michel Jullian
- Original Message - From: Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics Michel Jullian wrote: a violation of energy conservation? No. Electric potential

Re: [Vo]: China -A New Entry in the Magnetic Conversion of Zero Point Energy Has Surfaced!

2007-01-25 Thread Standing Bear
On Thursday 25 January 2007 09:30, OrionWorks wrote: Vorts, FYI, Some of you might enjoy reading the following short clip recently posted out at zpenergy.com. See: http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=2206 http://tinyurl.com/3bkvey Perhaps Mark can share with

[Vo]: Energy from Electron angular momentum?

2007-01-25 Thread Paul
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Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On 1/25/07, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, electrons are more complex that just magnetic dipole moment. You might find this model of interest: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2787/2214/1600/app%206-7.jpg Terry

RE: [Vo]: China -A New Entry in the Magnetic Conversion of Zero Point Energy Has Surfaced!

2007-01-25 Thread Mark Goldes
Vo, The prototype seems to be real. However, it does not seem to be a simple device to mass produce, as it depends on special ferrofluids and what may prove to be Hg, as a second liquid used separately in this system. If it is Hg, the toxicity and difficulty of obtaining sufficient quantities

Re: [Vo]: China -A New Entry in the Magnetic Conversion of Zero Point Energy Has Surfaced!

2007-01-25 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Mark Goldes's message of Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:53:19 -0800: Hi, Vo, The prototype seems to be real. However, it does not seem to be a simple device to mass produce, as it depends on special ferrofluids and what may prove to be Hg, as a second liquid used separately in this system. If

Re: [Vo]: China -A New Entry in the Magnetic Conversion of Zero Point Energy Has Surfaced!

2007-01-25 Thread Standing Bear
On Thursday 25 January 2007 15:53, Mark Goldes wrote: Vo, The prototype seems to be real. However, it does not seem to be a simple device to mass produce, as it depends on special ferrofluids and what may prove to be Hg, as a second liquid used separately in this system. If it is Hg, the

Re: [Vo]: China -A New Entry in the Magnetic Conversion of Zero Point Energy Has Surfaced!

2007-01-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On 1/25/07, Mark Goldes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin, The Wang generator is not at all like the Steorn work. As far as I know, there is no liquid in the Steorn inventiions. Wang uses two. The first is a complex ferrofluid and the second might be Hg. However, Wang and Steorn *do* seem to use

Re: [Vo]: China -A New Entry in the Magnetic Conversion of Zero Point Energy Has Surfaced!

2007-01-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton writes with an air of mystery: I have requested that certain resources seek the truth. You can't handle the truth! - Jed

Re: [Vo]: China -A New Entry in the Magnetic Conversion of Zero Point Energy Has Surfaced!

2007-01-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On 1/25/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be guarded . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall

Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-25 Thread Michel Jullian
Paul, if I understand correctly your long comments below (BTW could we be as concise as possible, and stick to the convention of new stuff on top whenever possible?), you believe that potential energy in general (not just magnetic, but also gravitational, electric too I suppose...) is just a

Re: [Vo]: China -A New Entry in the Magnetic Conversion of Zero Point Energy Has Surfaced!

2007-01-25 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Mark Goldes's message of Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:59:49 -0800: Hi, [snip] Robin, The Wang generator is not at all like the Steorn work. As far as I know, there is no liquid in the Steorn inventiions. Wang uses two. The first is a complex ferrofluid and the second might be Hg. The

Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-25 Thread Paul
Michel Jullian wrote: --- Paul, if I understand correctly your long comments below (BTW could we be as concise as possible, and stick to the convention of new stuff on top whenever possible?), --- Sorry, I was merely replying to your comment. Michel Jullian wrote: --- you believe that

Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-25 Thread Michel Jullian
I did read your reply, I did think for a while, but I still disagree ;-) You insist on some _internal_ energy being spent while the object falls. Where would it come from when the object is an elementary particle such as an electron, would it lose mass or something? :-) Michel P.S. Again,