Re: [Vo]:E-Cat explained - Final chapter for steam controversy

2011-07-21 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: A skeptic doesn't need excuses. They have the Magic Right-as-Rain Protective Shield? Someone who makes a claim and is challenged may need an excuse. The skeptic is not the one making a claim. The problem

Re: [Vo]:European Patent Office observer criticizes Rossi's E-Cat

2011-07-21 Thread Damon Craig
The greatest souce of pressure is the water standing in the hose. If the hose end loops up 12 inches to dump into a bucket. There is a head of water was the hose decends to the floor from the device of 12 inches. The steam must push down upon this head to escape raising the pressure in the device.

Re: [Vo]:European Patent Office observer criticizes Rossi's E-Cat

2011-07-21 Thread Damon Craig
Will I be misunderstood if I don't say this was said with sarcasm and exageration? Actually, the best head of water you can get require both the device is and exit are on the roof. On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:41 AM, Damon Craig decra...@gmail.com wrote: If it rises 30 to dump into a sink, think

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Damon Craig
Look, guys. If no one is pursuing the really wet steam theory anymore the steam wetness issue is pretty much moot. Sorry if I didn't realize that. Originally, you may recall, numbers caste about were as high as 97% liquid by mass. This is dense enough a chunk of oak would float in it. Even 10%

Re: [Vo]:New Sergio Focardi interview

2011-07-21 Thread Damon Craig
OK. So no one has looked closely at the goofy temperature curve in the Levi report of the December 16, 2010 demonstration which he claimed was evidence of an exothermic reaction (and cold fusion). Here's an analysis I wrote a few weeks ago: In his report Levi claimed the temperature curve of

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Damon Craig
OK. Excuse my caution. I am simply not comfortable helping witch hunters hunt witches. On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: At 04:55 PM 7/19/2011, Damon Craig wrote: In my more-or-less last communication with Krivit, I told him the wet steam

Re: [Vo]: Prof. Kullander now an Ecat critic?

2011-07-21 Thread Damon Craig
Essen and Kullander: At the end of the horizontal section there is an auxiliary electric heater to initialize the burning and also to act as a safety if the heat evolution should get out of control. This is the first mistake: presumption presented as fact. The presumption is that there exists

Re: [Vo]: Prof. Kullander now an Ecat critic?

2011-07-21 Thread Damon Craig
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:30 AM, Damon Craig decra...@gmail.com wrote: Essen and Kullander: At the end of the horizontal section there is an auxiliary electric heater to initialize the burning and also to act as a safety if the heat evolution should get out of control. This is the first

Re: [Vo]: Prof. Kullander now an Ecat critic?

2011-07-21 Thread Damon Craig
Excuse me Lomax. My last email was directed to Rothwell not yourself. This email interface is not the best mode of communication.

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Damon Craig
Cude, Lomax: To you two, and myself, its fairly obvious this device doesn't do what it is reported to do, but we have no solid, unrefutable evidence--yet. One presumption is that an auxillary source of heat energy, such as resistive heating, is capable of controlling an exothermic reaction

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Daniel Rocha
Damon, This is what I tried to explain before. Discussing about wetness of the steam is a moot point. The mass of liquid in any of those video is visually less 5%, if that much. More than that, the liquid hose would pour bubbles. But forget about it, people won't listen to this. It seems they

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Rich Murray
Wherever the input power resistor is, its gradual surface deterioration and fractal cracking will accelerate the flow of electric current along the outside of the resistor, increasing the direct transfer of heat energy into the input cooling water, 2 cc/sec into a perhaps 200 cc interior volume,

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Joshua Cude
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Damon Craig decra...@gmail.com wrote: Look, guys. If no one is pursuing the really wet steam theory anymore the steam wetness issue is pretty much moot. Sorry if I didn't realize that. What gives you that idea? To my mind, really wet steam is still the most

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Joshua Cude
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Damon Craig decra...@gmail.com wrote: Cude, Lomax: To you two, and myself, its fairly obvious this device doesn't do what it is reported to do, but we have no solid, unrefutable evidence--yet. Evidence is the responsibility of the guy making the claim.

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Joshua Cude
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: The mass of liquid in any of those video is visually less 5%, if that much. You should get a job working for turbine manufacturers. They go to a lot of trouble to evaluate steam quality, when all they need is for you

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat open source replication

2011-07-21 Thread ecat builder
Hi Damon, I hope your piping is better than class 150, and your fittings better than schedule 40. Preferably you would want to use class 3000 pipe and schedule 80 fittings of 316/316L stainless steal. The strength of stainless steal Thank you for the safety concern. I'm using schedule 40 pipe

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat open source replication

2011-07-21 Thread Terry Blanton
You can buy commercial pressure relief valves which will prevent an explosion. See globalspec.com T

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat open source replication

2011-07-21 Thread Rich Murray
What are the exact details of your setup and runs so far? In mutual service, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com 505-819-7388 On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:33 AM, ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Damon, I hope your piping is better than class 150, and your fittings better than schedule

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat open source replication

2011-07-21 Thread ecat builder
A few replies: Terry: Thanks for the link. If I start to see pressure exceed 300PSI (20 bars) I'll think about a rupture disk (but at what pressure?). So far I'm pressurizing up to 150 PSI (10 bars) and with mild heating it has not increased more than a few PSI. (I haven't logged pressure very

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat open source replication

2011-07-21 Thread Daniel Rocha
Brad, Shouldn't an EM be applied into the powder? Loading with gas only won't work.

Re: [Vo]:European Patent Office observer criticizes Rossi's E-Cat

2011-07-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
There are some pretty sloppy statements. I know that Damon is being sarcastic, but that sarcasm is based on certain understandings. Let's be more careful, everyone! At 05:41 AM 7/21/2011, Damon Craig wrote: The greatest souce of pressure is the water standing in the hose. Probably not, but

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:22 AM 7/21/2011, Damon Craig wrote: Look, guys. If no one is pursuing the really wet steam theory anymore the steam wetness issue is pretty much moot. Sorry if I didn't realize that. I have to say that really wet steam is not implausible, Joshua has made a decent case for it. However,

Re: [Vo]:New Sergio Focardi interview

2011-07-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:47 AM 7/21/2011, Damon Craig wrote: OK. So no one has looked closely at the goofy temperature curve in the Levi report of the December 16, 2010 demonstration which he claimed was evidence of an exothermic reaction (and cold fusion). There is a copy of the report at

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat open source replication

2011-07-21 Thread Axil Axil
I will attempt to address this question from ecat builder: “Does the catalyst convert hydrogen to H+? Is there something else to try? What would you like to see tried for a catalyst?” First some background quoted from ecatrepor: “although one might first think “the finer the

Re: [Vo]: Prof. Kullander now an Ecat critic?

2011-07-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:30 AM 7/21/2011, Damon Craig wrote: Essen and Kullander: At the end of the horizontal section there is an auxiliary electric heater to initialize the burning and also to act as a safety if the heat evolution should get out of control. This is the first mistake: presumption

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:56 AM 7/21/2011, Damon Craig wrote: Cude, Lomax: To you two, and myself, its fairly obvious this device doesn't do what it is reported to do, but we have no solid, unrefutable evidence--yet. One presumption is that an auxillary source of heat energy, such as resistive heating, is

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:55 AM 7/21/2011, Joshua Cude wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Damon Craig mailto:decra...@gmail.comdecra...@gmail.com wrote: Originally, you may recall, numbers caste about were as high as 97% liquid by mass. This is dense enough a chunk of oak would float in it. Please. 97%

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:58 AM 7/21/2011, Joshua Cude wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Damon Craig mailto:decra...@gmail.comdecra...@gmail.com wrote: Cude, Lomax: To you two, and myself, its fairly obvious this device doesn't do what it is reported to do, but we have no solid, unrefutable evidence--yet.

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Joe Catania
I think the topology of the E-Cat would reveal alot about its characteristics as a boiler. But one thing is for sure: it would seem that the metal surface which gives rise to the steam is under some mass of water which will increase the pressure somewhat over ambient. This raises the steam

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Joe Catania
I think the topology of the E-Cat would reveal alot about its characteristics as a boiler. But one thing is for sure: it would seem that the metal surface which gives rise to the steam is under some mass of water which will increase the pressure somewhat over ambient. This raises the steam

Re: [Vo]:European Patent Office observer criticizes Rossi's E-Cat

2011-07-21 Thread Damon Craig
I find your statements bewildering. . On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: There are some pretty sloppy statements. I know that Damon is being sarcastic, but that sarcasm is based on certain understandings. Let's be more careful, everyone! At

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat open source replication

2011-07-21 Thread ecat builder
Hi Axil: As usual, very interesting.. and way over my head.. Dimpling and bringing something up to the temperature of melting stainless steel is beyond my ability.. but hopefully others are listening and can try.. I'm not sure that powder coating the reactor wall is required to get transmutation.

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-21 Thread Damon Craig
I was under the presumption that there a few here that understood elementry physics. Good Grief! On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Damon Craig decra...@gmail.com wrote: Look, guys. If no one is pursuing the really wet

Re: [Vo]:European Patent Office observer criticizes Rossi's E-Cat

2011-07-21 Thread Damon Craig
I would think that anyone seriously investigating should have the reports and video evidence closer at hand. It's embedded in Lewans Ny Teknik article. http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3166552.ece It would be nice if someone would post the link, if they have it handy

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat open source replication

2011-07-21 Thread Axil Axil
The evidence for nano-powder welding as one of Rossi’s secrets is strong but circumstantial in the 10kw unit whose reaction vessel volume is 1 liter. First, the 100 gram pure nickel nano-powder fills only 1% of the volume of this one liter reaction vessel. This small amount of powder cannot

Re: [Vo]:European Patent Office observer criticizes Rossi's E-Cat

2011-07-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:49 PM 7/21/2011, Damon Craig wrote: I find your statements bewildering. Projection of internal state onto external reality. On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: There are some pretty sloppy statements. I know that