Re: [Vo]:Rossi Nickel enrichment : is a liquid-phase Calutron possible?

2011-11-04 Thread Berke Durak
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: The ion diffusion speed in an electrolyte is only some centimeters per minute at best, while the speed in a Calutron is probably some 100 to some 1000 kilometres per second. Therefore the mass inertia of the nucleus

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

2011-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mattia Rizzi wrote: The point 2 is CRITICAL when the measuremnt is done with point 1, because without using a demister you made a mesuremnt error that *over-extimate* the real energy produced. Over-estimate by how much? 470 kW? I doubt it. The exact power level does not matter. An hour

[Vo]:Valve to condensate bucket was closed

2011-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Someone pointed out to me that when Lewan made the video, the valve leading to the condensate bucket was closed. It must have been open before that, because there was condensate in the bucket. Based on how toy steam engines work, I suppose that pipe had a great deal of water and condensate in it

[Vo]:Re: Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

2011-11-04 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Jed, how can you made such measurements without even a water trap? Why you can't realize that? It's a 2 million trade. The expert didn't add even a simple water trap. It's amazing! -Messaggio originale- From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 2:45 PM To:

Re: [Vo]:Re: Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

2011-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mattia Rizzi wrote: Jed, how can you made such measurements without even a water trap? That was a water trap. You can see it trapped water and condensate. Presumably when steam began coming out, they closed it. That's how people operate steam engines, as I mentioned. Why you can't

[Vo]:Re: Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

2011-11-04 Thread Mattia Rizzi
That was a water trap. You can see it trapped water and condensate. This isn't a water trap. A water trap is a U shaped tube. It physically force water to go down. See it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_%28plumbing%29 What they made is a small hole inside the tube, like a T. Not U-shaped

Re: [Vo]:Re: Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

2011-11-04 Thread Terry Blanton
I think the thing that is missing from this discussion is that, assuming Domenico Fioravanti is really working for The Customer (who is seeming like a missing player from the Matrix series, similar to The Engineer, The Architect, etc), Col. Fioravanti has been present for a while. He is

[Vo]:Defkalion Responds to Questions

2011-11-04 Thread Robert Leguillon
Defkalion responds to a reader re: the possibility of DGT's Hyperions replacing the Fukishima reactors: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=431p=3617#p3617 ___ Could the steam temperature be safely raised to 600 degrees C

RE: [Vo]:Rossi Nickel enrichment : is a liquid-phase Calutron possible?

2011-11-04 Thread Jones Beene
It seems you are conflating two processes when only one will suffice. And one of them is absurd from the start. Why pump the liquid at all? Why use a magnetic field with pumping, when a simpler route exists? Calutrons were a gigantic waste of money in the Manhattan project and were only used

Re: [Vo]:Thermophotovoltaic systems - Another way to use heat from an ECat

2011-11-04 Thread Harry Veeder
As someone reminded on me on facebook all bodies radiate and the radiation spectrum depends on the temperature of body as per the blackbody model. However, I guess what I really had in mind was some sort of nanoengineered material ( metamaterial) which would glow in the visible sprectrum at cooler

[Vo]:OT: Celestial Dreaming

2011-11-04 Thread Harry Veeder
Cold star http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/C​old_star Location: The Dream Lord's dream world Appearances: DW: Amy's Choice A cold star was a celestial object that existed in a dream shared by Rory Williams, Amy Pond, and the Eleventh Doctor, created by psychic pollen that had become lodged in the

Re: [Vo]:Daily Mail reports on Rossi's Oct 28 demo.

2011-11-04 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-11-03 22:21, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: www.msnbc.msn.com reports on Rossi's Oct 28 demo. Hagelstein is quoted. All in all, seems to be a fairly positive report. No blatant misinformation or stupid misrepresentations that I could spot.

Re: [Vo]:New article / Rossi quotes

2011-11-04 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.11.2011 06:59, schrieb Peter Gluck: Very well written paper. Bravissimo, Haiko! If you understand german read my comment: http://www.heise.de/tp/foren/S-Einfache-Erklaerung/forum-214972/msg-21021826/read/changeview-c/ Peter Peter On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Haiko Lietz

Re: [Vo]:Daily Mail reports on Rossi's Oct 28 demo.

2011-11-04 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Daily Mail wrote: »Several high-profile demonstrations of 'cold fusion' have been proven to be hoaxes in the past» I would gladly see any examples of »high-profile» or even low profile cold fusion demonstrations that ended up been a hoax. It is unbelievable how little fact based information

Re: [Vo]:Daily Mail reports on Rossi's Oct 28 demo.

2011-11-04 Thread Danny Ross Lunsford
Have you ever met a journalist? They are a lower form of life. -- I write a little. I erase a lot. - Chopin --- On Fri, 11/4/11, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Daily Mail

Re: [Vo]:Daily Mail reports on Rossi's Oct 28 demo.

2011-11-04 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:57 AM 11/4/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote: On 2011-11-03 22:21, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2057611/Italian-scientist-claims-achieved-cold-fusion--problem-physicists-think-impossible.html Here's an article on the same test, on Daily

Re: [Vo]:Daily Mail reports on Rossi's Oct 28 demo.

2011-11-04 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Robinson also covered this back in April. He's not a specialized science reporter. Italian scientist claims he has achieved 'cold fusion' - the only problem is that most physicists think it is impossible

Re: [Vo]:New article / Rossi quotes

2011-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote: Am 04.11.2011 06:59, schrieb Peter Gluck: Very well written paper. Bravissimo, Haiko! If you understand german read my comment:

Re: [Vo]:New article / Rossi quotes

2011-11-04 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.11.2011 19:19, schrieb Jed Rothwell: On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Am 04.11.2011 06:59, schrieb Peter Gluck: Very well written paper. Bravissimo, Haiko! If you understand german read my comment:

Re: [Vo]:Mill's and Lu paper define hydrino as fractional Rydberg

2011-11-04 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Dave, I think you have an underlying misconception. It isn't thermal energy that is being exploited, catalytic energy is related to Casimir geometry which in the case of nanotubes only occurs at openings and defects in the nanotube as recently discovered by Peng Chen at Cornell

Re: [Vo]:Valve to condensate bucket was closed

2011-11-04 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.11.2011 14:56, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Someone pointed out to me that when Lewan made the video, the valve leading to the condensate bucket was closed. It must have been open before that, because there was condensate in the bucket. Based on how toy steam engines work, I suppose that pipe

Re: [Vo]:New article / Rossi quotes

2011-11-04 Thread Peter Gluck
Peter I was born in Temeswar many years ago, this town was then penta-national and tetra-linguistic; I have learned German from childhood. Later I have forgotten Serbian but have learned English, Russian French Italian- all very useful when you are a researcher. For my best German friend please

Re: [Vo]:Daily Mail reports on Rossi's Oct 28 demo.

2011-11-04 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/04/article-2057611-0EAB31D40578-330_468x286.jpg Key: Rossi says he has produced a pattern of triple track atoms, pictured, which is at the heart of the cold fusion theory That's a

[Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Rossi is overworked and unable to explain the simplest facts correctly. In all seriousness, that is true. It is important aspect of his personality. I do not think it is because he is overworked. I think he is just not good at explaining things.

Re: [Vo]:Mill's and Lu paper define hydrino as fractional Rydberg

2011-11-04 Thread David Roberson
You are correct Fran, I am confused about the hydrino theory. I think I understand that you imply that the hydrino can not exist outside of the nanotube structure. If this is true then it would not be possible to extract energy from the beast. Whatever you borrowed must be returned very

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-04 Thread Daniel Rocha
Is that really a fake PhD? I thought it was an honorary doctorate for his biofuel powerplant. For example, the former president of my country, Lula, got and has been getting these titles even though he just studied until the 4th grade (that is below junior high). He couldn't study since he had to

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-04 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.11.2011 21:46, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Rossi is also careless and he gets facts wrong. He does not care about details. He REALLY does not care about details, to an extent that most of us find pathological. This explains why the e-cat leaks and fails when really serious customers and NASA

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Is that really a fake PhD? I thought it was an honorary doctorate for his biofuel powerplant. Ah, that may explain it. Perhaps he has two honorary PhDs, one for the biofuel, and one from the diploma mill. Perhaps he thought I was talking about the

Re: [Vo]:msnbc reports on Rossi's Oct 28 demo. Hagelstein is quoted.

2011-11-04 Thread Terry Blanton
Then came CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57318762/cold-fusion-debate-heats-up-after-latest-demo/ viewable in IE9, Chrome no like. T

Re: [Vo]:msnbc reports on Rossi's Oct 28 demo. Hagelstein is quoted.

2011-11-04 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Then came CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57318762/cold-fusion-debate-heats-up-after-latest-demo/ viewable in IE9, Chrome no like. Chrome works on reload. T

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: This explains why the e-cat leaks and fails when really serious customers and NASA scientists are present. In all seriousness, I expect it does. It also explains why he ran the October 6 demonstration without bothering to put an SD card into the

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-04 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.11.2011 22:42, schrieb Jed Rothwell: From Rossi's point of view quibbling about minor details such as the thermocouple temperature readings is silly. I'm sure he would say go ahead and ignore that if you like; just look at the physical facts. If he does it this way, then he cannot

[Vo]:wiki entry survived a deletion request

2011-11-04 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Energy_Catalyzer Basically came down to: if it's a scam it's still notable . (lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat -- Hi, google!)

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: I'm sure he would say go ahead and ignore that if you like; just look at the physical facts. If he does it this way, then he cannot know the difference between a random effect, a systematic measurement error or a real physical fact. How can he

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-04 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: They understood perfectly well that a candle cannot burn for many days True, but a latke can! Ask my stomach! T

[Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-04 Thread pagnucco
Since nuclear isomers (i.e., metastable atoms with excited nuclei) can store energies far exceeding chemical energies, could any LENR results be due to undetected isomers decaying to nuclear ground state? Some are extremely long-lived, and some may still be undiscovered. (e.g., Discovery of a

Re: [Vo]:msnbc reports on Rossi's Oct 28 demo. Hagelstein is quoted.

2011-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
This one is pretty good too. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57318762/cold-fusion-debate-heats-up-after-latest-demo/ I told someone who is looking for funding that venture capitalists will not touch this field as long as we have mass media publishing articles with titles like Cold Fusion

Re: [Vo]:wiki entry survived a deletion request

2011-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is an interesting comment in the Wikipedia discussion from someone who claims he or she was present at the Oct. 6 test. Does anyone know what kettle stone means? Deposits from evaporated water? Keep, Been present at the oct6 testing of the device, I confirm a 100% certain that the average

Re: [Vo]:Mill's and Lu paper define hydrino as fractional Rydberg

2011-11-04 Thread francis
From: francis [mailto:froarty...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:36 PM To: 'dlrober...@aol.com' Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mill's and Lu paper define hydrino as fractional Rydberg Dave, You are getting to the heart of it quickly. First there is definitely energy

Re: [Vo]:wiki entry survived a deletion request

2011-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
That's hilarious. What is it with these people? I do not understand why they are so anxious to keep people from finding out about things they oppose. They hate the idea that people will discuss the issue, or learn something about it. I don't like creationism, and I hate these people opposed to

Re: [Vo]:wiki entry survived a deletion request

2011-11-04 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Here is an interesting comment in the Wikipedia discussion from someone who claims he or she was present at the Oct. 6 test. Does anyone know what kettle stone means? Deposits from evaporated water? Yes, also called

Re: [Vo]:wiki entry survived a deletion request

2011-11-04 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Here is an interesting comment in the Wikipedia discussion from someone who claims he or she was present at the Oct. 6 test. Does anyone know what

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Nickel enrichment : is a liquid-phase Calutron possible?

2011-11-04 Thread Berke Durak
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: It seems you are conflating two processes when only one will suffice. And one of them is absurd from the start. Why pump the liquid at all? Why use a magnetic field with pumping, when a simpler route exists? Calutrons

Re: [Vo]:wiki entry survived a deletion request

2011-11-04 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Here is an interesting comment in the Wikipedia discussion from someone who

Re: [Vo]:wiki entry survived a deletion request

2011-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, also called boiler scale: http://www.magnumarchive.com/c/iconographic-encyclopedia-volume-5/Storage-Water-Its-Purification.html http://www.eutechinst.com/techtips/tech-tips45.htm I'm sure you can't read all my posts, nor would you want to;

Re: [Vo]:wiki entry survived a deletion request

2011-11-04 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a reason this is more of a problem with Rossi's reactor? No, I think AR's problem with using water is the fact that his heat source is so very small. With a focused thermal reaction, the resulting scale will

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-04 Thread Danny Ross Lunsford
This is sort of what seems most natural to me. Something is happening on either side of NI62, and it gets into a cyclic state - once in a while by the magic of QM it overshoots and you get copper, or undershoots and you get iron. But most of the time it bounces back and forth. Some oscillatory