Abd ul-Rahman: » I have seen no peer-reviewed criticisms that manage to
impeach the *correlation* of heat with helium.»
If I have understood correctly, the correlation is meaningless, because
there are orders of magnitude too tiny amounts of helium compared to
observed heat. Therefore there is
Jouni Valkonen wrote:
If I have understood correctly, the correlation is meaningless,
because there are orders of magnitude too tiny amounts of helium
compared to observed heat.
You do not understand correctly. The amounts of helium are right what
they should be compared to observed heat.
Zell, Chris wrote:
At this point, I think many of us are so angry and disgusted by the
greed and legal invunerability of the ruling class, that I would give
it away, just to end their misrule.
I do not see how this would end the misrule of the ruling class. Cold
fusion has many potential
If you had bothered to read he references provided you would know
your statement is nonsense.
There is another type of battery that does not appear in the table
above, since it is limited in the relative amount of current it can
deliver. However, it has even higher energy storage per
At 10:39 PM 12/26/2011, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
As I read Dr Bushnell, he is saying 5 things: 1) Excess heat is real
and has been replicated in 100s of labs around the world.
Yes. It has. By a couple of years ago, there were 153 reports of
excess heat in peer-reviewed journals, there is a
From Abd:
...
I'll comment on it: he [Bushnell] went on to say, but it isn't
fusion.
That's apparently because he's swallowed, lock, stock, and sinker,
Widom-Larsen theory, and isolated, idiosyncratic attempt to explain
LENR by coming up with even more preposterous hypotheses,
On Dec 26, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
Put it this way, if this isn't a nuclear reaction, it is some kind
of super-battery, probably worth billions just for that.
Unfortunately for this battery idea, ... helium.
A Lithium Thionyl Chloride battery works out OK. See post
Horace, lithium batteries will explode in a high temperatures of ecat,
especially if batterypack is thermally isolated. Only chemically plausible
idea is to hide a bucketful of thermite or some other oxygen containing
mixture of chemical compounds and an apparatus for controlled or catalyzed
How's that? According to what theory?
On Dec 27, 2011, at 11:01, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Jouni Valkonen wrote:
If I have understood correctly, the correlation is meaningless, because
there are orders of magnitude too tiny amounts of helium compared to
observed heat.
... not to mention a few hints (re: supra-chemistry) coming direct from
National Labs ... years before nano-thermite made an impact, so to speak.
http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/437696-qcD7AM/webviewable/437696.pd
f
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Put it this
At 11:39 PM 12/26/2011, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Mon, 26 Dec 2011 22:32:07 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Put it this way, if this isn't a nuclear reaction, it is some kind of
super-battery, probably worth billions just for that. Unfortunately
for this battery
If I had a complete, working, practical free energy device - and wisely feared
for my life - I would consider finding someone who is a staunch Zionist/Israeli
patriot, with a scientific background and donating it to him. Political
jiu-jitsu, I say.
At this point, I think many of us are so
On Dec 26, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
However, in open cells, the oxygen leaves the cell as it is
generated, and in closed cells, excess oxygen is still vented, my
understanding (otherwise the pressure would rise very high, as
oxygen isn't loaded into palladium. Some of
Am 27.12.2011 00:19, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat:
What no comment on this:
My change of mind was a direct result of talking with Dr. Dennis
Bushnell, the Chief Scientist for NASA Langley who has assured me that
over 100 experiments worldwide indicate that LENR is real, capable of
producing
There has been some confusion about the limits of chemical energy storage
with bulk palladium loaded with deuterium or hydrogen. The limits are not
phenomenal. A typical cathode is about the size of a small wooden match.
A cathode of this size holds roughly as much energy as a match (~1000 J),
and
The oil producers won't be the first victims of LENR (assuming it works as
said).
Liquids fuel are very efficient per mass, easy to refill, and quite cheap
(europe can affort it at 5x the price tax included, so the price limit is
about 300$/barel)
the first victim will be the inefficient,
At this point, I am nearly equating their rule with misrule. The possibility
that the Bill of Rights has now been repealed (the NDAA, no longer a 'tin hat'
conspiracy idea) is shocking.
Free energy is a bit broader topic than Cold Fusion but the main point is a
huge disruptive force that
At 01:03 AM 12/27/2011, Rich Murray wrote:
Hi Abd Lomax,
I'm glad to see you posting a lot now, and expressing strong doubts
about Rossi.
Are you continuing to develop your low cost tiny CF kits for
electrolytic codeposition of Pd in deuterium heavy water electrolyte,
using plastic to record
At 01:35 AM 12/27/2011, Charles Hope wrote:
On Dec 26, 2011, at 22:10, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Then there is that pesky Coulomb barrier. What I found, though,
was that there was ample opinion among quantum physicists that it
was possible that the unexplored
It is not theory, it is experimental result. Go to:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/
and enter Miles helium and McKubre helium.
On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Charles Hope wrote:
How's that? According to what theory?
On Dec 27, 2011, at 11:01, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Jouni
Recent years showed that oil prices can't get much above $150 a barrel or it
creates a downturn that drops the price, amidst layoffs and crashes.
What wasn't realized by experts, a few years back, is the degree of correlation
that exists between markets today, The calls to invest in emerging
At 01:43 AM 12/27/2011, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I'll comment on it: he went on to say, but it isn't fusion.
That's apparently because he's swallowed, lock, stock, and sinker,
Widom-Larsen theory, and isolated, idiosyncratic attempt to explain
LENR by
There is no need for down-conversion to explain the lack of high
energy gammas associated with excess heat of LENR, provided those
gammas are not produced in the first place. If an energetically
trapped electron in the nucleus carries away the reaction heat away
from the nucleus in the
I'm reading his papers and I don't understand one thing:
1.What triggers the 4D/TSC? It looks like an ordinary configuration of D in
palladium...
2.Why does he use a value that is so precise 1.4007fs to the 4D/TSC reach
the minimum state. His calculations are approximations and even if they
At 03:53 AM 12/27/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman: » I have seen no peer-reviewed
criticisms that manage to impeach the *correlation* of heat with helium.»
If I have understood correctly, the correlation
is meaningless, because there are orders of
magnitude too tiny amounts of
McKubre now acknowledges his 23.8 KeV was in error.
Harry
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
It is not theory, it is experimental result. Go to:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/
and enter Miles helium and McKubre helium.
On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:00 AM,
After some calculations, I think it is better to use the MPG-D751. See
below.
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
The 2.5 x 2.5 mm device has a max power output of approx 0.8 mW at 10 deg
K differential. Assuming 1 Watt excess with a COP 5 yields
At 10:55 AM 12/27/2011, you wrote:
There has been some confusion about the limits of chemical energy
storage with bulk palladium loaded with deuterium or hydrogen. The
limits are not phenomenal. A typical cathode is about the size of
a small wooden match. A cathode of this size holds roughly
Do we really know Obdenaker actually wrote the email attributed to him?
Has anyone checked with NASA's PR office or anyone else there? I think it
was just from a post by an anonymous poster in a fan/enthusiast web site
run by a guy only known as Ben.
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Alberto De Souza
alberto.investi...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm a new member of the list, but I'm reading the posts since January. I'm
addicted...
If we have a large COP (10-100), I believe we can use thin film
thermogenerators
After thinking a little bit about the calculations I did (see below) and
considering what I have learned from this year reading vortex, I came to
the conclusion that the engineering approach proposed by Aussie Guy (and
also Rossi) is the best approach forward in the LERN field... If one
manages to
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
SNIPIt's been called fusion confusion. Look, Aussie Guy is anonymous,
what he writes is next to meaningless. Don't mix this up with the huge
corpus of work from hundreds of scientists around the world.
Hi Abd,
Horace,
Thanks for the comment.
What is needed are some toy models with some simple simulations.
I will check out your theory.
Do you believe any new physics is required
- or does standard QM suffice?
I am getting pretty boggled by the complexity of it all.
LP
There is no need for
On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 01:43 AM 12/27/2011, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I'll comment on it: he went on to say, but it isn't fusion.
That's apparently because he's swallowed, lock, stock, and sinker,
Widom-Larsen theory,
A contrarian opinion: DoE will never relent nor alter its stance against
LENR ... at least not so long as there is a DoD.
Never, never, never. This is essentially why SPAWARS is being closed. They
were only supposed to be a token effort anyway - but instead they got too
close to exposing the
On Dec 27, 2011, at 9:05 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Horace,
Thanks for the comment.
What is needed are some toy models with some simple simulations.
I will check out your theory.
Do you believe any new physics is required
- or does standard QM suffice?
I am getting pretty boggled by
It seems to me that LENR cannot be weaponized. The stuff that
permits chain reactions accumulates slowly, if it even exists at
all. This permits cosmic rays to limit the accumulation.
Cosmic ray secondary muons might trigger conventional fusion in super
high density pockets of hydrogen,
On Dec 27, 2011, at 9:05 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Horace,
Thanks for the comment.
What is needed are some toy models with some simple simulations.
I will check out your theory.
Do you believe any new physics is required
- or does standard QM suffice?
I am getting pretty boggled by
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
A contrarian opinion: DoE will never relent nor alter its stance against
LENR ... at least not so long as there is a DoD.
I assume you mean as long as there is a DoE. I agree.
Never, never, never. This is essentially why SPAWARS is being closed.
Abd,
If you reject W-L theory, what would you regard as the most reasonable
explanation for all of the transmutations reported? Is there a
particular paper that you could recommend. I'm too overwhelmed by the
complexity
of solid state reactions to take any side in the controversy.
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Do we really know Obdenaker actually wrote the email attributed to him?
I expect he would complain if he did not write it. In the modern wired
world, he would soon find out someone is circulating a forged memo
attributed to him.
- Jed
From Jones:
...
The biggest threat to the West, in the eyes of the
Pentagon, is a non-nuclear or nuclear-optional (less
detectable) but near kiloton capable weapon in the hands
of the Taliban (or next radical terrorist group with
access to plenty of cash or a substitute like
From: Jed Rothwell
A contrarian opinion: DoE will never relent nor alter its stance against
LENR ... at least not so long as there is a DoD.
* I assume you mean as long as there is a DoE. I agree.
No, I mean DoD - DoD has far more political clout. There is no
inter-connection between
If the helium levels are what they should be compared to the heat, that
assumes some theory that correlates them. Which theory is that?
On Dec 27, 2011, at 12:24, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
It is not theory, it is experimental result. Go to:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/
Charles Hope lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com wrote:
If the helium levels are what they should be compared to the heat, that
assumes some theory that correlates them. Which theory is that?
Not a theory. It is an observation that deuterium is converted to helium to
produce heat in the same ratio as
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
A contrarian opinion: DoE will never relent nor alter its stance against
LENR ... at least not so long as there is a DoD.
* I assume you mean as long as there is a DoE. I agree.
No, I mean DoD - DoD has far more political clout. There is no
Horace,
I considered this point (no neutron chain reaction nor obvious substitute)
but am convinced that there is no need for the kind of chain reaction we are
familiar with in fission. If you understand subcritical neutron
multiplication, you will see that massive gain is possible without true
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:41:55 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
Mirror electrons in the dielectric keep the protons close to each other.
As I pointed out on this list a few weeks back (though it may not have been
noticed in the deluge), this doesn't work because close is much
On Dec 27, 2011, at 9:05 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Horace,
Thanks for the comment.
What is needed are some toy models with some simple simulations.
I will check out your theory.
Do you believe any new physics is required
- or does standard QM suffice?
I am getting pretty boggled by
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson's message of Tue, 27 Dec 2011
14:05:01 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
Regarding the profitability of illegal businesses, like Afghani heroin, I'm
going to suggest something outrageous. We should seriously consider growing
our own poppy fields and the manufacture
On 11-12-26 05:16 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Cells running heat after death have closed the loop. Apart from
them, no laboratory scale device can produce electricity.The
implication is clear. The cells can produce
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:41:55 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
Gain comes from non-quark nuclear boson depletion, is instigated by strong
force attraction, followed by Coulomb repulsion - and depends on quark
statistics. Gain is in the range of tens to hundreds of keV per
Excuse me. I didn't realize your level of understanding.
Mass and energy are related by E = m c^2. If the inputs and outputs
have a mass difference, then that mass is converted to energy, in
kinetic form, radiant form, or both.
This is the basis of most all nuclear reaction energy
On 11-12-26 10:24 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 05:31 PM 12/26/2011, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Jed Rothwell
mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.comjedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Arata ran a small motor with one heated by a self-sustaining
gas-loaded cell.
Cool! Did
I wrote: The heavy lattice atoms are closer to absorbed hydrogen
than hydrogen in adjacent lattices.
That should say: Absorbed hydrogen nuclei are closer to adjacent
heavy lattice atom nuclei than to hydrogen nuclei in adjacent lattice
sites.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
In reply to Zell, Chris's message of Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:14:56 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
some pretend LENR can incinerate, with the produced neutrons), and also for
cleaning and recycling plants... but basically nuclear industry will move to
cleaning mode for 40-60 years.
Actually protons would be far
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:07 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
I
You already do...in Afghanistan. ;) What do you think was the real reason
for
fighting the Taliban (under whom Opium production nearly died out).
This isn't a good place for politics but I can't let something that stupid
get by.
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
Arata ran a small motor with one heated by a self-sustaining gas-loaded
cell.
Jed, could you possibly give a URL for the paper (if Arata published one
and if it's been uploaded anywhere)?
I do not think he ever published that. It was just
On Dec 27, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
Horace,
I considered this point (no neutron chain reaction nor obvious
substitute)
but am convinced that there is no need for the kind of chain
reaction we are
familiar with in fission. If you understand subcritical neutron
multiplication,
On Dec 27, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:07 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
I
You already do...in Afghanistan. ;) What do you think was the real
reason for
fighting the Taliban (under whom Opium production nearly died out).
This isn't a good place for
On 11-12-26 11:12 PM, Alberto De Souza wrote:
I'm a new member of the list, but I'm reading the posts since January.
I'm addicted...
If we have a large COP (10-100), I believe we can use thin film
thermogenerators (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectricity) such
as these
On Dec 27, 2011, at 12:22 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Zell, Chris's message of Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:14:56 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
some pretend LENR can incinerate, with the produced neutrons), and
also for cleaning and recycling plants... but basically nuclear
industry will move to
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson's message of Tue, 27 Dec 2011
10:56:38 -0600:
Hi,
Quote:
I think they will care less about any theoretical arguments that
This is one of my pet peeves with Americans. ;)
The expression is couldn't care less not could care less.
couldn't care
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.netwrote:
The conventional D+D fusion reaction, using mass differences, is:
D + D -- 4He + 23.847 MeV
OK, I get it. Am I correct that the conventional theory says this reaction
doesn't really occur (it's either 3He + n,
On 11-12-27 04:31 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:07 PM, mix...@bigpond.com
mailto:mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
I
You already do...in Afghanistan. ;) What do you think was the real
reason for
fighting the Taliban (under whom Opium production nearly died out).
http://incompetech.com/gallimaufry/care_less.html
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:57 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson's message of Tue, 27 Dec
2011
10:56:38 -0600:
Hi,
Quote:
I think they will care less about any theoretical arguments that
A young Nebraska farmer's son went to war against Germany and came back
with code-breaking skills, as well as good DoD contacts. His name was
William Norris. He started Control Data Corporation with a young engineer
named Seymour Cray and, with 34 people out on Seymour's farm in Wisconsin
(only
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
At 01:35 AM 12/27/2011, Charles Hope wrote:
On Dec 26, 2011, at 22:10, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
wrote:
Then there is that pesky Coulomb barrier. What I found, though, was
that there was
Robin sez:
Hi,
Quote:
I think they will care less about any theoretical arguments that
This is one of my pet peeves with Americans. ;)
The expression is couldn't care less not could care less.
couldn't care less is short for It isn't possible for me to care
less about this
On Dec 27, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Charles HOPE wrote:
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Horace Heffner
hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
The conventional D+D fusion reaction, using mass differences, is:
D + D -- 4He + 23.847 MeV
OK, I get it. Am I correct that the conventional theory says
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Never, never, never. This is essentially why SPAWARS is being closed.
SPAWAR is not being closed. Perhaps you refer to only the CF tests.
SPAWAR is large:
http://www.public.navy.mil/spawar/Pages/default.aspx
T
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:57 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson's message of Tue, 27 Dec 2011
10:56:38 -0600:
Hi,
Quote:
I think they will care less about any theoretical arguments that
This is one of my pet peeves with Americans. ;)
The
At 01:01 PM 12/27/2011, Horace Heffner wrote:
On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
Transmutations are not observed with any clean correlation with
excess heat. Some experiments produce more, some less. Levels of
transmuted products other than helium are produced at far
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=7#comment-157900
*
Andrea Rossi
December 27th, 2011 at 2:33 PM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=7#comment-157900
Dear Gherardo:
The price will be enough low to forbid any competition. At that
point
At 01:07 PM 12/27/2011, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
SNIPIt's been called fusion confusion. Look, Aussie Guy is
anonymous, what he writes is next to meaningless. Don't mix this up
with the huge
At 03:28 PM 12/27/2011, Charles Hope wrote:
If the helium levels are what they should be compared to the heat,
that assumes some theory that correlates them. Which theory is that?
This is an experimental observation, and what you are asking was
stated. Helium is produced in PdD cells, when
At 05:13 PM 12/27/2011, Charles HOPE wrote:
As to the opinion of quantum physicists on the possibility of there
being unknown effects in the solid state, there was a recent
revision of a textbook on solid state nuclear models, and it has a
section on LENR, and it turns out that the author had
In reply to Mary Yugo's message of Tue, 27 Dec 2011 13:31:21 -0800:
Hi,
The reasons you give have little to do with the reason for being there, as
indicated by the fact that the current incumbents are not much better. Basically
the problems you describe are part of the culture of the local
Hello Mary Yugo,
I've looked at all of your posts for months, and appreciate your
candor, spunk, restraint, keenness, patience and persistence -- it
seems that the desire for a major game changing breakthrough since
1989 leads to premature big gambles that so far always fail -- so the
whole
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:03:10 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
At 11:39 PM 12/26/2011, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Mon, 26 Dec 2011 22:32:07 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Put it this way, if this isn't a nuclear reaction, it is some kind
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 9 Dec 2011 02:27:21 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Several neutron Compton scattering (NCS) experiments on liquid and solid
samples containing protons or deuterons show a striking anomaly, namely, a
shortfall in the intensity of energetic neutrons scattered by the
I'm going through Takahashi this week. How could a BEC exist at room
temperature?
On Dec 27, 2011, at 22:41, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Bose-Einstein Condensate
Titanic step forward? Better is gigantic management strategy blunder!
To use mild euphemisms- this plan is naive, childish, primitive savage
capitalistic thinking and self-destructive strategy.
To use dumping on an endless, insatiable market- you cannot succeed even
with a hundred million E-cats.
Reference:
http://neutrons.ornl.gov/workshops/ian2006/eV/eV_IAN2006oct_Dreismann.pdf
The Scattering cross section ratio σH/σD should not be affected by angle of
the particle collision or the percentage of hydrogen saturation, but it is
and by as much as 50%.
This indicates that hydrogen bonds
Axil:
Thanks for increasing the signal-to-noise ratio!
It’s been going up steadily for the last two days, thanks to the ‘ol-timers…
-Mark
From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:46 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Attenuation of decay
On Dec 27, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 01:01 PM 12/27/2011, Horace Heffner wrote:
On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
Transmutations are not observed with any clean correlation with
excess heat. Some experiments produce more, some less. Levels of
I forgot to mention Table 2 of:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MileyGHreviewoftr.pdf
Note that the results are reported in percent of isotopic abundance.
In terms of atoms this is *huge*. It is *huge* compared to helium
results.
If you find related reactions in my tables (all
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