Amidst all these discussions about credibility of LENR and the different
groups working on it, we send out our clown Stirling Allen to investigate.
From his report (
http://pesn.com/2012/02/13/9602039_Hope_from_Athens_found_in_Cold_Fusion/):
When I went out to grab a bite for dinner
I think we have to focus on what he says about
the Company, not who says it.
And his report is convergent with other direct information about Defkalion.
The season of tests will start soon.
Very interesting- it is about High Temperature LENR 450-900 deg Celsius.
Peter
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:33
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl wrote:
I pulled up a chair, stood on it, and started saying, May I have your
attention, please. I would like to tell you about some hope that you have
for Athens.
Sounds like Mr. Allen came across some of the original ouzo
Beside sterling adventures, it seems to me it is unusual to announce such a
high (450-900) operating temp, isn't rossi actually trying to achieve a stable
reaction at such temps ?
About the SA device, it seems to be a follow up from the bob boyce hex
controller experiment afaik :
I don't understand the comment about the amount of Hydrogen being
consumend by a 5KW unit... Does Defkalion really not know how much
Hydrogen it consumes if running at full power for 6 month?
About the temperature: I think this is quite interesting as Rossi
somewhen stated that his reaction
I believe the hydrogen loss they are referring to is centered about hydrogen
containment, not hydrogen consumption.
As for Rossi's 60°C reaction point, that was the temperature of his surrounding
water during the EK testing. At around 60°C water temp, the slope of
temperature gradient changed;
Thank you for the clarification!
Wolf
I believe the hydrogen loss they are referring to is centered about hydrogen
containment, not hydrogen consumption.
As for Rossi's 60°C reaction point, that was the temperature of his surrounding
water during the EK testing. At around 60°C water temp,
Terry sez:
Sounds like Mr. Allen came across some of the original ouzo flavored
with poppy pods. :)
Allen is an evangelist of a different cloth! ;-)
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
From: Andre Blum
*
* Amidst all these discussions about credibility of LENR and the
different groups working on it, we send out our clown Sterling Allan to
investigate)... I pulled up a chair, stood on it, and started saying, May I
have your attention, please...
Humm... kinda fits
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/author/sbkrivit/
*Smith Offers $1 Million Prize for Successful E-Cat
Demo*http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/02/14/smith-offers-1-million-prize-for-successful-e-cat-demo/
by *Steven B. Krivit* http://blog.newenergytimes.com/author/sbkrivit/
*From:* Margot Egan
The simplicity is elegant. Repeat your most-cited demonstration, and you'll
get $1 million USD, no strings attached.
You can buy use the money for whatever you want - You can use it for further
research - perhaps to re-purchase your house or even donate some of the money
to charity.
I'm
I love it!
I hope Rossi accepts the challenge.
The pessimist within me however thinks he won't. I'm inclined to think
Rossi might be inclined to reply with something to the effect that he's too
busy to spend time on what he will try to describe as nothing more than
unimportant parlor
On 2012-02-14 17:14, Chemical Engineer wrote:
_Smith Offers $1 Million Prize for Successful E-Cat Demo_
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/02/14/smith-offers-1-million-prize-for-successful-e-cat-demo/
Somebody quickly forward this to Andrea Rossi!
This is an offer he simply cannot
Hmm Is this Margot and her sister, with Rossi's cash, ready and waiting
???
http://images.smh.com.au/2010/08/11/1771929/smith420-420x0.jpg
From: Robert Leguillon
I'm sure it's just coincidence, but did you notice that Margot Egan is
an anagram of No Mortgage?
attachment: winmail.dat
Anyone have any links to the South African FFG (Fuel Free Generator) company?
Company web site or address? Additional pictures/video of the device?
Retracted PDF's? Device size or specs?
Trying not to drink the Kool-Aid, but anything that can produce 4000
watts of continuous electricity would
Sterling is indeed huge personality. He does not care what other people
think.
Although he sometimes uses too much conspiratorial rhetoric, he is still
always putting science first and speculation to the background. I guess
that NWO-conspiratorial rhetoric from suppression of knowledge is very
Dick Smith is betting that ecat is being fed by a ground device. Rossi
will be surely successful and this will make other skeptics angry, such
those that bet on heated metal (preposterous) or on a compact chemical
support (quite reasonable).
2012/2/14 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
From what i've read so far, there is no website, no pictures, no PDF's, no
specs whatsoever (except some 5kw claim perhaps), the only thing we've got is
sterling unpublished report...
Anyone have any links to the South African FFG (Fuel Free Generator)
According to Sterling Allen:
A week ago today, I found an email in my inbox that had been sent to me on
November 28 that I had overlooked. It was from a person representing a company
in South Africa stating that they had a Fuel Free Generator, and that they had
seven working prototypes with
Damn! HE IS TOTALLY INSANE I CANNOT STOP LAUGHING
HAHAHAHAHA! :D
2012/2/14 Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl
Amidst all these discussions about credibility of LENR and the different
groups working on it, we send out our clown Stirling Allen to investigate.
From his report (
From Daniel
Damn! HE IS TOTALLY INSANE I CANNOT STOP LAUGHING
HAHAHAHAHA! :D
Sterling is simply behaving like an evangelist of a different cloth.
All evangelists want to spread the good news.
Some more obnoxiously that others. ;-)
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
Replication of Black Lights anomalous energy in impossible EUV range by Harvard
and the recent 5 million dollar research grant to Rob Duncan at U of MO is what
Rossi and Defkallion should be worried about. The race is on.
Fran
_
From: Jones Beene
Given the situation there, it is something of extremely bad taste... so
bad it's funny...
2012/2/14 OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
From Daniel
Damn! HE IS TOTALLY INSANE I CANNOT STOP LAUGHING
HAHAHAHAHA! :D
Sterling is simply behaving like
It doesn't look like an independent test. The name of the researcher
is the same as in many of BlackLight tests. I think they just rented a
lab and did tests.
2012/2/14 Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
Replication of Black Lights anomalous energy in impossible EUV range by
At 08:14 AM 2/14/2012, Chemical Engineer wrote:
Smith Offers $1 Million Prize for Successful E-Cat
Demo
My offer is very simple, which I
will restate: I ask you to repeat the March 29, 2011 demonstration
purported to show that your E-CAT unit had an output power of many times
the input power
In the 'curious factoids department' relating to easily overlooked but
anomalous levels energy from hydrogen when in contact with a host metal like
nickel ...
Nickel may not be alone, as an active host for hydrogen. In fact there could
be many others.
In the past 150+ years of the automobile and
I have a hard time seeing why Rossi would pay any attention to this:
(1) If his e-cat is real, $1M is a miniscule distraction.
(2) If it's a mistake or fraud, replying would foolish.
On 2012-02-14 17:14, Chemical Engineer wrote:
_Smith Offers $1 Million Prize for Successful E-Cat Demo_
The media are going to love this, and they will be very damning if Rossi
doesn't accept.
If he is prepared to put such money on the line it would be nice if Smith
opened this up to all-comers, like an X-Prize, eg for a consistently
replicable cold fusion reaction with a gain of 5-10 and power
From Daniel
Damn! HE IS TOTALLY INSANE I CANNOT STOP
LAUGHING HAHAHAHAHA! :D
Sterling is simply behaving like an evangelist of a different
cloth.
All evangelists want to spread the good news.
Some more obnoxiously that others. ;-)
Did Sterling speak in Greek (or
On 2012-02-14 20:19, Robert Lynn wrote:
The media are going to love this, and they will be very damning if Rossi
doesn't accept.
Exactly this.
Cheers,
S.A.
An X-Prize would be an excellent idea. I hope that Mr. Smith gives this
concept serious consideration.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 14, 2012 2:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will
From what I can tell of their new book on abundance, they think solar power
is a significant future energy solution and do not mention LENR (or know
what it is) at all. I worked on a CSP (concentrated solar power) project
for two years and if they think solar is the solution to our problems we
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
And in the context of Bedini - and possibly the new player in South Africa
as well - anything that makes this EUV reaction happen more often that 1-3%
of the time can pass for overunity ... or magic, when the reaction is
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Hmm Is this Margot and her sister, with Rossi's cash, ready and waiting
???
http://images.smh.com.au/2010/08/11/1771929/smith420-420x0.jpg
Outstanding!
Constant Growth = Doom ?!?
From the looks of it constant
Terry sez:
http://images.smh.com.au/2010/08/11/1771929/smith420-420x0.jpg
Outstanding!
Constant Growth = Doom ?!?
From the looks of it constant growth will equal BOOM!
With special emphasis on the vowels in BOOM... or DOOM depending
on the interpretation.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
Better still, if Smith is convinced the e-cat is not real, why not pledge
the $1M to a worthy cause if it's not verified by end of 2012?
- or offer bets through an on-line site like intrade.com?
Otherwise, it's hard to be sure he's not a flamboyant publicity seeker.
An X-Prize would be an
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:58 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
With special emphasis on the vowels in BOOM... or DOOM depending
on the interpretation.
Or, in Greek: ΒΘΘΜ
T
I have confessed more times that I cannot understand and/or predict Rossi's
reactions (his own, not those from the core of the E-cat)
In this case my bet is that now he will ask more money, 2 or 3 million US$
for a 'perfect test.
Let's see!
Peter
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:00 PM,
I don't know why he wants to go back to March 29, and not, for example, the
Oct 5 (was it?) Heat Exchanger version, and to use steam rather than
water. Also, Rossi only guarantees COP=6, not 8. KE would be fine to
supervise ... but I think I'd go with recommendations from Jed (ISTR) to
hire an
Rossi will not flinch. He will ignore this request and dismiss it with not
worth the effort.
On Feb 15, 2012 7:23 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Hmm Is this Margot and her sister, with Rossi's cash, ready and
waiting ???
Rossi is certainly an enigmatic character, but it is highly improbable
that he would slow his race with Defkalion if they both have real LENR
technology for such a small amount, nor would Rossi accept it if e-cat is
a fraud. Either way, Smith can be pretty sure his offer will receive no
response.
Also, how did krivit get hold of the email? Especially if he was
deliberately cced, Rossi will see it as coming from a snake's friend.
On Feb 15, 2012 7:33 AM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com wrote:
Rossi will not flinch. He will ignore this request and dismiss it with
not worth the
My bet is he will just refuse.
This whole thing is played on Rossi's terms. He will not allow it to be
played on those of others. Unless he really needs the money. Or when it
(coincidentally?) fits perfectly with his own terms.
So, normally, I would expect his reaction to be: I've said
reading the last 50 posts or so,
could we just calm down a bit, an not comment on every piece of junk, anyone
has been fishing out of the river of possibilities, while waiting for the big
catch, or Godot, or whatever.
Wait a week, then another one.
As long as I can remember, the clock was 5
Stirling Allen wrote:
. . . I walked by a group of younger people milling about outside an
establishment (some kind of party). I pulled up a chair, stood on it, and
started saying, May I have your attention, please. I would like to tell
you about some hope that you have for Athens.
But
I sincerely hope he was just kidding.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 14, 2012 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip
Stirling Allen wrote:
. . . I walked
I predict that Rossi will ignore this offer.
If I were him, I would accept it. But he has said he will do no tests,
and he can be very stubborn. For some reason the decision is
irrevocable. This is odd because he often changes his mind and changes
his plans radically.
One reason he will not
Hehe..gotta love RossiArchibald Fields
February 14th, 2012 at 5:57 PM
Dick Smith Offer
Dear Andrea,
Australian millionaire Dick Smith has written an open letter to you
offering more than $1,000,000 unconditionally if you can successfully
repeat March 29 demo. This is easy money and you have till
Rossi's answer
Andrea Rossi
February 14th, 2012 at 6:23 PM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=580cpage=3#comment-185047
Dear Archibald Fields:
This is a Clownerie. If this guy wants to test a 1 MW plant and has 1
million to spend he can buy a 1 MW plant, with a regular contract,
On 2012-02-15 00:46, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I predict that Rossi will ignore this offer.
Yep:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=580cpage=3#comment-185047
Andrea Rossi
February 14th, 2012 at 6:23 PM
Dear Archibald Fields:
This is a Clownerie. If this guy wants to test a 1 MW plant
Brilliant answer!
2012/2/14 Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co
Hehe..gotta love Rossi
Archibald Fields
February 14th, 2012 at 5:57 PM
Dick Smith Offer
Dear Andrea,
Australian millionaire Dick Smith has written an open letter to you
offering more than $1,000,000 unconditionally if you can
Krivit posted this (
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/Solihin-Millin/20120127Rossi-Invoice-Redact.pdf
) today as a proof that Rossi profits from scam.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Krivit posted this (
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/Solihin-Millin/20120127Rossi-Invoice-Redact.pdf
) today as a proof that Rossi profits from scam.
Related:
On 2012-02-15 00:56, Andre Blum wrote:
Rossi's answer
Andrea Rossi
February 14th, 2012 at 6:23 PM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=580cpage=3#comment-185047
Dear Archibald Fields:
This is a Clownerie.
Please note: clownerie = travesty
Cheers,
S.A.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Related:
http://ecatmotor.com/e-cat/bryon-new-energy-charitable-trust-to-support-e-cat
More:
http://www.byronnewenergy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
T
Just for the record, this is Rossi's updated response:
Andrea Rossi
February 14th, 2012 at 6:23
PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=580cpage=3#comment-185047
Dear Archibald Fields:
This is a Clownerie. If this guy wants to test a 1 MW plant and has 1
million to spend he can buy a 1 MW
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