Re: [Vo]:NanoSpire Inc.

2012-02-21 Thread Robert McKay
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: NanoSpire, Inc. Successfully Harnesses Cavitation Zero Point Energy to Produce Dramatic Levels of Fusion Transmutation In Water press release:

Re: [Vo]:NanoSpire Inc.

2012-02-21 Thread Chemical Engineer
Maybe that is the reason Rossi acts the way he does... On Tuesday, February 21, 2012, Robert McKay wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: NanoSpire, Inc. Successfully Harnesses Cavitation Zero Point Energy to Produce Dramatic Levels

Re: [Vo]:A brief, semi-classical take on Widom-Larsen theory

2012-02-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: First - we need to know for sure if there are absolutely zero gammas during operation or not. Bianchini says zero from the best available testing. Rossi says some, but offers no data; and DGT says some, but offers no

Re: [Vo]:NanoSpire Inc.

2012-02-21 Thread francis
Axil, I am glad you phrased this as APPEARS to be relativistic speeds - exactly the point I have been trying to make regarding Casimir effect and catalytic action! It is not spatial acceleration but rather periodic displacement of the lattice along the time axis that can accumulate into

Re: [Vo]:The first real NiH reactor

2012-02-21 Thread Jay Caplan
The next generation of gas cooled small modular reactors will offer high level process heat, useful for mobilizing oil sands and oil shale, fertilizer production and many other industrial processes. Thus more of the waste heat may be utilized, rather than lost to the environment. -

RE: [Vo]:A brief, semi-classical take on Widom-Larsen theory

2012-02-21 Thread Jones Beene
Lou, On your first point - Electron Capture events [energy+p+e -- n+v] occur in the nucleus and respect conservation laws. Are we sure they cannot also occur in extremely energetic complex plasmons? EC cannot occur with hydrogen, period. Never, Nada, No way. Not in QM, not in classical,

Re: [Vo]:A brief, semi-classical take on Widom-Larsen theory

2012-02-21 Thread Alain Sepeda
why need capture of neutrino, they don't talk of capture, but like you say of emission... except the energy, nothing is lost. as usual if one of the particle is very energetic/heavy, it solve the equation about the needed energy scale, far from the thermal level, the key factor is group

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread fznidarsic
I don't know, but the first beeping signals have now reached 12,500 stars. The fact of the matter is any civilizations out there able to receive our signal should have been transmitting at least 100 years ago and we should already have detected them. It appears that we are unique.Many are

Re: [Vo]:NanoSpire Inc.

2012-02-21 Thread David Roberson
It sounds like it works in a manner that I would prefer to avoid. Fission of U235 also works like this producing dangerous side effects and waste that we will have to deal with for many years. The beauty of LENR is that it works in a manner that does not have these problems. Research into

Re: [Vo]:NanoSpire Inc.

2012-02-21 Thread Axil Axil
We can use the NanoSpire system as appoint of comparison to tease out what quantum mechanical mechanisms do what functions in the complicated NiH system. Unlike NiH, the NanoSpire system is flawed as a power production system because it does not contain the quantum mechanical tools necessary to

[Vo]:The Boy Who Played With Fusion

2012-02-21 Thread Robert Leguillon
Sometimes, motivated 14-year-olds build treehouses; others, fusion reactors: Taylor cranks it up to 40,000 volts. “Whoa, look at Snoopy now!” Phaneuf says, grinning. Taylor nudges the power up to 50,000 volts, bringing the temperature of the plasma inside the core to an incomprehensible 580

RE: [Vo]:A brief, semi-classical take on Widom-Larsen theory

2012-02-21 Thread Jones Beene
From: Alain Sepeda why need capture of neutrino, they don't talk of capture, but like you say of emission... except the energy, nothing is lost. as usual if one of the particle is very energetic/heavy, it solve the equation But

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread David Roberson
Radio transmissions might be an ancient form of communications to an advanced civilization. It could be like us talking to each other with smoke signals. At this point it can only be speculation as to what future technology will be invented. Before radio, all we had was wire lines. Who

[Vo]:NanoSpire Inc.

2012-02-21 Thread francis
If this experiment occurred in 2009 and resulted in radiation sickness and transmuted elements at only 840 watts in I have to ask why it is only becoming news now and why the news isn't all over the front page.. what I am missing that makes this less than earth shattering news?

Re: [Vo]:NanoSpire Inc.

2012-02-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Francis: If this experiment occurred in 2009 and resulted in radiation sickness and transmuted elements at only 840 watts in I have to ask why it is only becoming news now and why the news isn’t all over the front page.. what I am missing that makes this less than earth shattering news?

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread LORENHEYER
Ion-propulsion is highly inefficient, but because it produces only a limited amount of power, the equivalence of a piece of paper resting on your hand (please, whatever you do don't sneeze), it has a limited use. Now, Antigravity is believed to have great potential, especially because

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread Vorl Bek
Ion-propulsion is highly inefficient, but because it produces only a limited amount of power, the equivalence of a piece of paper resting on your hand (please, whatever you do don't vast snip I have to killfile this guy. I guess he is trying to write in html, but it comes across as a

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread LORENHEYER
It's almost absurd to even think about waiting around for an answer, especially if our signals are being disabled,,, and (believe it or not) I think there may be a likely good reason for this. SO, what if we got an answer... what do we do then? Should we ask them if they have more advanced

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread LORENHEYER
Some people can't deal with certain matters, and will quickly change the subject. By finding fault with words (which obviously give you immense comfort), rather than the matter at hand, I can only must conclude that you simply aren't meant to learn or 'know' certain things,,, so, please go

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread LORENHEYER
Believe it or not, but this just might be a sort-of mandatory-step from which a whole new society emerges and starts a'new. times, they are a changin! Let's just hope that it is not typical for an advanced civilization to end itself with super weapons once it reaches a certain point

RE: [Vo]:A brief, semi-classical take on Widom-Larsen theory

2012-02-21 Thread pagnucco
Jones, There too many theories to be partisan. They all may be wrong. First - E-C cannot occur in hydrogen. Probably true, but plasma is not hydrogen. Plasma e-p wave functions are not stationary. Second - I agree - relativistic collisions can be ruled out. That's why I conjectured direct

Re: [Vo]:NanoSpire Inc.

2012-02-21 Thread Randy Wuller
Krivit actually reported it a long time ago. Go into his archives. I have no idea what happened in the meantime or whether the report is credible. The main guy, LeClair was even ranting about Rossi possibly irradiating Miami unknowingly with his Ecat, that might have been in January or

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread fznidarsic
As Jed has said we are now going radio silent. Many of the highest power shortwave stations such as Deutsche Wella have gone off of the air. They have been replaced with very lower power cellphone like gigahertz transmitters from local and satellite transmitters.In PA I pick up only one

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR MySQL screens fixed -- please send suggestions

2012-02-21 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 07:03 PM 2/20/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Problem fixed! Excellent second-take. If anyone wants to see some other search or sort method please let me know. MySQL is a piece of cake. Actually, Quick Search in the Detail tab does just about everything you need. Right now, the only thing

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread David Roberson
I am not sure that going radio silent at local distances would be a good thing unless the new technology that replaces radio has major advantages. It would be advantageous to eliminate the wires and fibers that are now strung all over the place but the speed of local communications does not

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread Terry Blanton
Earth radio silent? By no means. There are literally thousands of narrow-beam threads of RF energy directed at space satellites which reach far beyond their intended listeners. And when we went to DTV, the amount of effective radiated power from broadcast stations exploded. We radiate more RF

[Vo]:Dick Deal Dead

2012-02-21 Thread Terry Blanton
http://ecatnews.com/?p=2081 I guess it wasn't enough to simply have it proven to him alone. T

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:18 AM 2/20/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Advanced civilizations may not use RF communications. Or the signal may be so compressed it looks like noise. However, they will recognize it when they detect it. If they use radio telescopes they will probably realize they have intercepted a signal

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Jef Poskanzer pointed out a few years ago that spread-spectrum encrypted radio traffic would be indistinguishable from white noise. That's not entirely accurate. T

Re: [Vo]:Dick Deal Dead

2012-02-21 Thread Daniel Rocha
He was just an asshole. No more, no less. And a dumb one. 2012/2/21 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com http://ecatnews.com/?p=2081 I guess it wasn't enough to simply have it proven to him alone. T -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread fznidarsic
I guess you missed the whole thing about Podkletnov. Its kind of died down right now but there may be things going on behind the seens with this. The thought of antigravity devices coming soon is tantalizing. Do you suspect that we are just one discovery short of achieving that goal? Or

RE: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Alan J Fletcher Jef Poskanzer pointed out a few years ago that spread-spectrum encrypted radio traffic would be indistinguishable from white noise. Isn't there always a preset packet size? That alone would provide regular gaps in the rate of transmission, it

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Alan J Fletcher Jef Poskanzer pointed out a few years ago that spread-spectrum encrypted radio traffic would be indistinguishable from white noise. Isn't there always a preset packet

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 02/20/2012 10:32 PM, zer tte wrote: Well if they use some kind of quantum entanglement transmission, how could we eavesdrop on them ? So far our RF cone extends 100 light years behind us ( 0 Quite a catch for a random alien in our galaxy to be at the receiving end, anyway if by chance

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread David Roberson
It is not necessary to leave a gap in the transmission sequence. I once worked upon a system that continued non stop with a pseudo random BPSK signal. Dave -Original Message- From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Feb 21, 2012 3:15 pm

Re: [Vo]:Dick Deal Dead

2012-02-21 Thread Jarold McWilliams
I agree. At least Defkalion looked into it unlike Rossi, and I can respect them for at least trying to make it work. Smith's criteria were pretty ridiculous. He really needs to get someone who knows what they are talking about and work out a deal with Defkalion. On Feb 21, 2012, at 2:13 PM,

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread LORENHEYER
Uhh... they're currently up in space, as in numerous vehicle/craft, that are utilizing an altogether highly developed new form of sophisticated energy-field, that is tapped into all mass-matter/energy, and/or the earth's gravity magnetosphere.

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread LORENHEYER
I am trying to write in globs, because I know they're somewhat unreadable, but that just makes it that much more difficult to know what I'm talking about. And please, in the future, try not to use the word 'kill' ,,, its too harsh. I also have this dinosaur of a computer, plus, I'm mostly

[Vo]:Hydrino amplification

2012-02-21 Thread mixent
Hi, The maximum COP available from pure Hydrino multiplication (without fusion) according to my method varies from 5.86 for p=2 to 7.819 for p=137. Given the high degree of constancy across Hydrino shrinkage levels, I am lead to wonder if it is coincidence that Rossi promises a COP of 6. ;) Of

Re: [Vo]:Dick Deal Dead

2012-02-21 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Indeed, it looks like that Dick-head had anticipated that Rossi will decline his offer as he did (no surprise here!), but he did not anticipate that Defkalion might accept it. Therefore he had to find some sort of ridiculous excuse to go away from the deal in a manner that it would look like

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 02/21/2012 07:01 PM, lorenhe...@aol.com wrote: Uhh... they're currently up in space, as in numerous vehicle/craft, that are utilizing an altogether highly developed new form of sophisticated energy-field, that is tapped into all mass-matter/energy, and/or the earth's gravity magnetosphere.

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread Jouni Valkonen
I think that Radio signals are irrelevant, because alien civilisations did detect us back in 6000 years ago when we started agriculture and destroyed forests to the crops in larger scale due to urbanisation. Perhaps cities are directly visible from space? Thus Alien's do not need radio

RE: [Vo]:Time Crystals

2012-02-21 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
resend w/o attachment Just as if there are spatial periodic structures ( crystals ), there are temporal periodic structures in 3D time according to Dewey B. Larson's Reciprocal system. Such a temporal crystal exists inside the sun and as we progress in time we hit a node every 11 years. See:

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Hydrino amplification

2012-02-21 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Robin, Does your method take into account any of the relativistic like effects that appear to be occurring wrt modified half lives or the current thread regarding time crystals? My posit is that as the hydrino approaches the 1/137 limit it has a negative equivalent acceleration that

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread Terry Blanton
2012/2/21 Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com: I think that Radio signals are irrelevant, because alien civilisations did detect us back in 6000 years ago when we started agriculture and destroyed forests to the crops in larger scale due to urbanisation. I think what they detected that

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

2012-02-21 Thread fznidarsic
We would like to to find the signature of oxygen in other plants. There was even some efforts given on how to do it. I read of some kind of orbiting interferometer that could do some if it but was canceled. Frank -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To:

RE: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

2012-02-21 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
-Original Message- From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 5:48 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun? I know this has been discussed in the past years, but I'd like to put

Re: [Vo]:A brief, semi-classical take on Widom-Larsen theory

2012-02-21 Thread Alain Sepeda
in don't understand your idea that a neutrinon cannot be produced. the neutrino can be produced with the neutron, because it transports the leptonic number. about the spin, electron an proton holds 2 half spins, and the neutrino and the neutro holds the same. the only big and real problems is

[Vo]:OT- The Truth is Out There....I have a Dell..and am worried

2012-02-21 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex-l http://vr-zone.com/articles/asus-warranty-does-not-protect-computers-during-alien-invasions/14968.html The Truth is Out There. Ron Kita, Chiralex

[Vo]:Re: 137

2012-02-21 Thread mixent
In reply to Jeff Driscoll's message of Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:28:08 -0500: Hi Jeff, [snip] COP of just 7 for p = 137 ? You apparently missed the part of the post that you clipped. I was talking about a specific scenario, which you have also scrubbed by changing the subject line. in Randy's

[Vo]:Ferromagnetic form of carbon

2012-02-21 Thread Jones Beene
Ockham's razor at work ... (sometimes Ock. doesn't work; after all it is not a 'law' -but in the case of the putative fusion of carbon to iron, there is little doubt that it provides a close and comfortable shave; and 'conserves a few miracles' as well. Magnetic Soot; July 2004; Scientific

Re: [Vo]:NanoSpire Inc.

2012-02-21 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=395cpage=2#comment-1 Svein Utne February 3rd, 2011 at 5:53 AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=395cpage=2#comment-1 Dear Rossi, I wonder if any of your 50 witnesses that attended your demo January 14. has reported any radiation

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Hydrino amplification

2012-02-21 Thread mixent
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:33:14 +: Hi, [snip] Robin, Does your method take into account any of the relativistic like effects that appear to be occurring wrt modified half lives or the current thread regarding time crystals? My posit is that as

Re: [Vo]:OT- The Truth is Out There....I have a Dell..and am worried

2012-02-21 Thread Alain Sepeda
getting back in thread, note that most home insurance contracts don't cover you fr consequence of nuclear disintegration... this is one of the worst risk for LENR spread, because it could be a convenient excuse to reserve LENR to the big energy corps 2012/2/22 Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com