Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-04 Thread Craig Haynie
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 16:24 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: What is it with flying cars? It seems like the worst idea ever. Why not just rent a car at the airport? Even small airports usually have them. Anyway, here is the latest:

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-04 Thread Andre Blum
I agree that this one is particularly ugly. I liked the one that was in the Dutch news this week better: http://pal-v.com/ In some respect it has much in common with a trailer boat. It gives you the option to take it to another place to launch from and it gives you better storage/parking

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-04 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
They will become extremely popular and accessible to non pilots when robotic control and guidance through GPS (similar to google cars) would be available. Mass production would bring the price down and it will resolve many problems in terms of traffic and parking in urban centers (people could

[Vo]:Another positive BusinessLine article from Jan. 3

2012-04-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/article2772029.ece

Re: [Vo]:Flying electrostatic antennas

2012-04-04 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:18 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: Trouble is, the natural sky current is well under a microamp per square meter.  So a metallized kite would need to be a bit large in order to collect only kilowatts.  Better would be to artifically break down the air, or

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: They will become extremely popular and accessible to non pilots when robotic control and guidance through GPS (similar to google cars) would be available. I discuss this in the book. I do not think these will be popular in urban areas because

[Vo]:What people knew in '42

2012-04-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
It is sometime said that nuclear power and nuclear bombs came as a complete surprise to the public in 1945. Not true. Here are some quotes from a magazine article W. Davis, Behind the Scenes in Science, Free World, November 1942. Note the last paragraph. For years the length of the waves of

[Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths

2012-04-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The Japanese will be at the tender mercies of the Chinese for the rare earth materials absolutely required to produce and manufacture this green stuff. But like Germany, they will be forced to buy it from the Chinese at whatever the market will bear.

Re: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths

2012-04-04 Thread Axil Axil
*The Chinese have temporarily cornered the market by driving others out of the business. Naturally, they will jack up the cost and try to hurt the Japanese manufacturers. Any business would do that if they could get away with it.* I agree, the Chinese have used the supply of rare earths to

Re: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths

2012-04-04 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 19:03 Mittwoch, 4.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths I agree, the Chinese have used the supply of rare earths to corners the green energy market. Axil, The overall

Re: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths

2012-04-04 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von:Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 19:58 Mittwoch, 4.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths This, btw, has nothing to do with opening up US-rare-earth mines, as Jed opined. This is just a reverberation of western

[Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Axil Axil
Nuclear drones The military applications of LENR are game changing. If Rossi has shown the DOD anything LENR capability at all, the military would have bit down hard on the LENR military potential. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/02/us-plans-nuclear-drones *US draws up plans for

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
What on earth are they thinking of powering these with? Plutonium? - Jed

[Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths

2012-04-04 Thread Alain Sepeda
your vision seems right. not only delusion, but also despair need to sell. About delusion of the elite, it is coherent with the theory of Roland Benabou http://www.princeton.edu/%7Erbenabou/papers.html that I often cite http://www.lenrforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3t=40, which can explain LENR

Re: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths

2012-04-04 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com An: Vortex List vortex-l@eskimo.com; Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com Gesendet: 21:44 Mittwoch, 4.April 2012 Betreff: [Vo]:Nonsense about rare earths your vision seems right. Thanks guys. There seem to be

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Axil Axil
Maybe. Pu238. This is what NASA uses for space probes to the outer planets. Very bad stuff. On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: What on earth are they thinking of powering these with? Plutonium? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe. Pu238. This is what NASA uses for space probes to the outer planets. I can't imagine they would use it. The cost is somewhere between $1 million and $10 million per kilogram! Source: Broad, W., U.S. Has Plans To Again Make Own Plutonium, in New

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Axil Axil
This huge cost for a nuclear heat source no matter which one they selectedis extreme motivation to use LENR. One Rossi heat unit only costs a few hundred. On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe. Pu238. This is

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: This huge cost for a nuclear heat source no matter which one they selectedis extreme motivation to use LENR. One Rossi heat unit only costs a few hundred. Sure. I can't imagine trying this without LENR. But I expect the people doing this project have

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Axil Axil
Sure. I can't imagine trying this without LENR. Why does a $12 million nuclear drone make economic sense to the US military? Such a drone can replace a platoon of soldier in Afghanistan. A platoon is a military unit typically composed of two - four sections or squads and containing 16 to 50

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Robert Dorr
Short of using a LENR type device on board a drone, my guess is they would use Americium 241 in an Alpha-Voltaic configuration. At 02:24 PM 4/4/2012, you wrote: Axil Axil mailto:janap...@gmail.comjanap...@gmail.com wrote: This huge cost for a nuclear heat source no matter which one they

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Dorr rod...@comcast.net wrote: Short of using a LENR type device on board a drone, my guess is they would use Americium 241 in an Alpha-Voltaic configuration. Drones are large machines. The engine is about 100 HP in the Predator. (Rotax 914 engine.) Am-241 exists in only small amounts

Re: [Vo]:The Fukushima disaster -- 34 meter tsunamis?

2012-04-04 Thread Axil Axil
If a thief wanted to steal wholesale the wealth of a community, he would first disable the cop on the beat and make sure that this source of property protection is disabled for as long as possible. In like manner, if a competitor country wanted to steal the commercial base of another country,

Re: [Vo]:Nuclear drones

2012-04-04 Thread Axil Axil
You would need close to a megawatt of heat to get 100 hp at low conversion efficiency. Maybe this is why Rossi is working hard to miniaturize his core unit to the size of a small note book or smaller. In a standard industrial deployment, size of the reactor does not matter much. But when

Re: [Vo]:Flying electrostatic antennas

2012-04-04 Thread William Beaty
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Terry Blanton wrote: What is the Vret path on this sky battery? It's mostly from thunderstorms: lightning and neg-charged rain. Conventional theory of the Earth Global Circuit has thunderstorms as electrostatic generators which on average deliver neg. charge downwards

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-04 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: The solution to the traffic problem is to stop going places. Reduce commuting distances with full screen video telecommuting from home and from satellite offices. Agreed. Make cities beautiful and livable and compact

[Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-04 Thread pagnucco
Lewis Larsen (Lattice Energy LLC) has posted a new presentation entitled - Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENRs) New neutron data consistent with WLS mechanism in lightning - at - http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen He presents evidence that electrons and protons in coherent/collective motion

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-04 Thread Drowning Trout
Evacuated Tube Transports would be way more beneficial than flying cars. http://www.et3.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92dK_yxaKvk On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: The