Just found some data on the company and the inventor.
http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?939-Patent-Ni-alloys-for-H-storage-amp-generation-of-energy-%28Target-tech-intl-Han-NEE%29p=3482#post3482
the company is from vancouver...
the inventor is the CEO.
No reference to LENR on their
Yes, I stand corrected.
If calling for the open, transparent and proper accountability of his
qualifications is an insult, then yes, I've insulted Obama.
If calling for the proper transparency and objectivity from Darwinian
Evolutionist is an insult, then yes, I've insulted them (Notice how
I was wondering if the Reifenschweiler effect was ever replicated ? Was an
attempt ever made ? If not, why not ?
My understanding is that Reifenschweiler discovered the effect in the
Philips lab (NatLab) in Eindhoven, Netherlands around 1960/62. He discussed
it with Hendrik Casimir who was head
Thanks Alain for the additional finds.
I sent a copy of this new find to Celani for comments, since it has
remarkable similarities with his work although Celani's first publications
on the use of processed constantan happened later (I believe) than the file
date of Nee's latest patent.
The use of
Tesla,
To which Celanis patent are you referring to? So far, and to my knowledge,
Celani didnt fill a patent about his Constantan process. He has indeed
filled a patent for treating Nickel and alloy of nickel to load hydrogen,
but not specifically for Constantan.
Arnaud
_
The more patents I read on LENR, the more the essencials become clear:
- there should be a mechanism of mechanical stress causes by nickel
lattices that expand due to the absorbtion of hydrogen ions.
- the nickel surface parts should be ultra free of oxide to allow easy
absorbtion of hydrogen.
In
So, nearly all the Jews are corrupt.
2012/12/30 Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com
**
But we must make a distinction between what is really the Old Testament
from the corrupt Talmudic Judasim that came from Pagan Babylon.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Arnaud,
I did not refer to any PA by Celani, but to his published work on
constantan.
As far I am aware Celani has not filed anything on constantan, but it's too
soon to conclude since it will take approx 18 months PA's are published. So
far, no Celani PA has been found.
On Sunday, December
... On constantan that is.
Indeed, Celani has had an earlier patent filed and published (feb, 2012) on
treating nickel powder.
(Need to check whether alloys were also mentioned, I am not entirely sure
on that)
On Sunday, December 30, 2012, Teslaalset wrote:
Arnaud,
I did not refer to any PA
Rossi stated a few days ago on his website that he was looking for an other
alloy of nickel with a higher melting point.
_
From: Teslaalset [mailto:robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com]
Sent: dimanche 30 décembre 2012 11:56
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Latest published LENR
Arnaud, you were correct indeed on inclusion of Ni alloys as well in
Celani's latest published PA.
With the hot-cat in mind I already assume he uses already different metals
compared to about 1.5 - 2 years ago. Tungsten would be one component is my
guess.
On Sunday, December 30, 2012, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:
Rossi stated a few days ago on his website that he was looking for an
other alloy of
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
This might explain why Patterson's later beads no longer produced excess
energy. If Storm's theory is correct, it is the cracks resulting from the
stresses which made the beads produce excess heat. If Patterson found a
way to prevent the stressing
On what evidence do you base your assertion that President Obama is a Muslim?
On Dec 29, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote:
No, I am not stating that the President is a muslim. I am stating that the
Usurper is a muslim. We currently don't have a legitimate president; we have
a usurper
Interview helping with book sales.
http://www.americanantigravity.com/news/space/frank-znidarsic-on-antigravity.html
Frank Znidarsic
From Mark,
And remember, this whole discussion is Peter's fault ...
Peter's fault? Whatever...
I was joking. Of course it wasn't his fault ...
this may not be the place for levity.
Vortex-l often displays levity. Some enjoy it. Some don't, particularly
those who may feel
Perhaps, then, with micro-spheres made of material with a coefficient
of thermal expansion better matched to the Pd-plating, the Patterson
cell would perform more consistently?
-- Lou Pagnucco
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
This might explain why Patterson's
Do the transition temperatures correspond to any known Curie points
associated with Titanium?
The reason I ask is that one hypothesis set forth here in vortex-l
regarding nickel-hydrogen systems used by Rossi is that the transition
temperature from non-active to active is associated with nickel's
Greetings All,
Boeing is fully aware of LENR Cold Fusion..and yet they talk about
batteries:
http://phys.org/news/2012-12-sugar-volt-boeing-vision-hybrid.html
My bet is that their electric plane never sees batteries-except for a
temporary back-up.
Respectfully,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
Propulsion by on the spot generation of hydrogen would make much more sense.
(using LENR)
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings All,
Boeing is fully aware of LENR Cold Fusion..and yet they talk about
batteries:
I may have found
something.http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/physics/Cold-fusion/TiBib.txt
In 1994 O. Reifenschweiler published the tritium decay-rate transition
temperatures 275C and 360C. These are about 548K and 633K respectively.
Later in 1994 OR published more detailed analysis
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
At 06:24 PM 12/20/2012, James Bowery wrote:
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:
a...@lomaxdesign.coma**b...@lomaxdesign.com a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
At 05:06 PM 12/20/2012, James
On Dec 29, 2012, at 20:31, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
This might explain why Patterson's later beads no longer produced excess
energy. If Storm's theory is correct, it is the cracks resulting from the
stresses which made the beads produce excess heat.
I think there are cracks
I this post I review the early history of controversy involving Jojo
Jaro on this list. Jojo began with clearly relevant postings on
alternative energy research. That went on for some time, until May,
2012, when a problem appeared.
Ultimately, this study leads to a clear example of what Jojo
Dear Abd,
we know the history; I think the solution is to answer strictly only those
messages of Jojo which refer to LENR and ignoring the toxic ones.
I am very worried why Bill Beaty does not answer
to the complaining colleagues.
Peter
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Possibly, replication could endanger careers and cut off funding sources?
In case you are interested, here is a portion of my 11-23-2011 Vortex
posting on the subject, some relevant references:
What I am curious about is whether the reduced radioactivity that
Reifenschweiler observed for
Their idea is to use hybrid propulsion...
LENR have huge autonomy, but LENr and worse, turbines, have low power
density
Since peak power is huge with planes, while average is lower, it is
rational to store energy...
in the report they propose batteries...
you can find the old article about
It takes two to escalate and you guys have used up a lot of bandwidth
one-upping each other.
You are obviously both bright guys, I think your positive focused energies
do much more good when spent solving world energy problems...
On Sunday, December 30, 2012, Peter Gluck wrote:
Dear Abd,
we
From: Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
I I can be critic on LENR community, like on mainstream science
community, is that FG mania to focus on THEORY...
NOT HAVING A THEORY IS NOT A REASON TO IGNORE A FACT
Ditto and likewise.
As Einstein wrote : Experimentum summus judex
Here are some additional points that are relevant to this question:
* When cracks are produced, a wide range of sizes is expected.
* People haven't yet figured out how to get enough cracks of the right size.
So perhaps mechanical stress will produce cracks on the nano scale in some
instances,
I just came to the realization that most of the demonstrations that Russ has
performed do not show much real work output. The piston is driven upward by
the spark activated mixture, but then returns to the starting point. Any work
done on the mass of the piston is returned back to the gas
I have to change the thread title because of the way Google mail works . .
. Let me change it to something Schwinger said to Melich.
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
is that FG mania to focus on THEORY...
NOT HAVING A THEORY IS NOT A REASON TO IGNORE A FACT
Ditto and likewise.
As
Nigel, it appears that you have valuable incite into changes in DNA which may
lead to mutated animals. Have you ever seen evidence that a section of DNA
from a non gene region of a chromosome has found a path into one of the genes?
I understand that all regions of the genetic materials have
At 04:58 AM 12/30/2012, Moab Moab wrote:
Any lab could take the Reifenschweiler effect and replicate it. If
successful the notion (axiom?) that the radioactive decay rate is
constant would be void. And the notion (axiom?) that chemical
environment cannot influence nuclear reactions would also
I'm not responding to Jojo except where I see a benefit to him, to
myself, or to the list community from a response. When Jojo makes a
claim, my long habit is to investigate it. And I don't just keep what
I find to myself, I share it, in situ. The situation has some to an
end game, for the
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I have to change the thread title because of the way Google mail works . .
. Let me change it to something Schwinger said to Melich.
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
is that FG mania to focus on THEORY...
Perhaps in that case, Jaro, we would all be served better if you WERE to
start drinking. I'd start with a good rum and coke, I'd suggest Whaler's
dark rum, one shot, poured into a can of cherry coke, with a couple of ice
cubes. Very relaxing!
Alexander Hollins
(ps, your very declarations
pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Possibly, replication could endanger careers and cut off funding sources?
Certainly. But you would never get funded in the first place. A researcher
who suggests doing this experiment will probably be hounded the way
Taleyarkhan has been. See:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
First of all, the point to the Reifenschweiler effect is not actually a
serious controversy.
Don't be ridiculous! Of course it is controversial.
Hoffman skewered that argument in his 1994 book.
You, Mike McKubre and I are just about the
leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps in that case, Jaro, we would all be served better if you WERE to
start drinking. I'd start with a good rum and coke, I'd suggest Whaler's
dark rum . . .
Ahem. This recalls a song of my youth:
We never eat fruitcake because it has rum,
And one
At 06:02 PM 12/30/2012, David Roberson wrote:
I just came to the realization that most of the demonstrations that
Russ has performed do not show much real work output. The piston is
driven upward by the spark activated mixture, but then returns to
the starting point. Any work done on the
At 06:25 PM 12/30/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Suppose Gibbs were to read EPRI's paper, or Gerischer where he says:
there is now undoubtedly overwhelming indications that nuclear
processes take place in the metal alloys.
Suppose Gibbs were to say: I get it. I understand why Gerischer
reached
leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote:
Observation drives theory, always. I don't get this Gibbs character
denying that.
I do. He and many leading skeptics demand a testable theory before they
will believe the results.
J. Piel, the late editor of the Scientific American told me that any
At 08:39 PM 12/30/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
First of all, the point to the Reifenschweiler effect is not
actually a serious controversy.
Don't be ridiculous! Of course it is controversial.
Sorry, I misspoke. The RE
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
However, I disagree. I say that observation alone is not enough, and you
can't be sure cold fusion is a real nuclear effect until you explain it
with a theory.
Why speculate that he would say something stupid like that?
Because I have heard
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Don't be ridiculous! Of course it is controversial.
Sorry, I misspoke. The RE may be controversial, but the idea that nuclear
reactions, specifically nuclear decay cannot be affected by the chemical
environment, isn't controversial.
Ah yes.
I realize that there is work done on the heavy piston as it is lifted from the
base. This indeed does represent energy being taken from the gas and delivered
to the piston as you suggest. But, if the system then generates a negative
pressure as is mentioned by John, it will essentially suck
It is unfortunate that these guys demand a verified theory before being content
to accept the lab results. I think this is a part of human nature that many
are unwilling to put their reputations on the line unless the evidence is iron
clad in every dimension. The lab proof is solid, but they
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 6:39 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Therefore, if no heat is detected within the gas at the conclusion of the
cycle, then there is no work done on the piston by that gas. For this
reason it is not possible to measure the output of a Popp type system just
I wrote:
The only time I ever saw him uncomfortable or unassertive was when the
people from Amoco showed him their results. He turned green and fled the
room! It is a fond memory.
I mean this paper, presented at ICCF4:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Lautzenhiscoldfusion.pdf
Huizenga refused
FYI
Reifenschweiler REpublished his findings in Physics Letters A in 1994:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0375960194907676
Harry
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
I suspect that work must necessarily be done on the Papp popper at the very
beginning, during the first discharge, and that this work can be measured
and tell us whether the cycle is overunity.
But as I think about it
His own autobiography says that he went to muslim school in Indonesia. You
can't go to muslim school unless you're muslim.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 12:14 AM
Subject: Re:
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
It is unfortunate that these guys demand a verified theory before being
content to accept the lab results. I think this is a part of human nature
that many are unwilling to put their reputations on the line unless the
evidence is iron clad in every
This is another one of those interesting subjects that we have been discussing
and it will be good to follow it to conclusion.
Yes, you can impart energy to that flywheel that you envision. And indeed, the
magnetic braking mechanism could be used to take the energy away. But, a
useful
Clearly, everyone can see that I started my posting on Vortex-L with clearly
high hopes. Then you mentioned that I started insulting. Did you bother to
mention why I started insulting. Did you mention that I started insulting
people who insulted me first? If I told you to F*** yourself, is
I think that we are heading toward agreement Eric. The lack of heating within
the gas or through the cylinder walls, etc. is problematic for this system. I
am fairly confident that these inventors do not claim that the electrical
energy recovered due to the returning piston is significant
Le Dec 30, 2012 à 5:39 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com a écrit :
You, Mike McKubre and I are just about the only three people in the world I
know who have read Hoffman, and you are the only one who does not consider
him a dolt.
I'm reading Hoffman right now. He doesn't come across
From: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 7:17:09 PM
His own autobiography says that he went to muslim school in Indonesia.
You can't go to muslim school unless you're muslim.
http://www.thefogbow.com
THE source for birther-watching and birther debunking.
(I post
Since I openly speculated about Mr. Jaro's habits I suspected he would
respond. He did.
I see that Jojo recently stated:
For somebody who's worst drinking was less than 5 bottles of
beer spread over the first 2 decades of his life; an insinuation
that I am an alcoholic is a grave
At 10:17 PM 12/30/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
His own autobiography says that he went to muslim school in
Indonesia. You can't go to muslim school unless you're muslim.
Who says that? Muslims go to Christian schools all the time.
Jed,
I can get requiring a testable theory. I just fail to see how, This
process causes X amount of heat above what goes in to come out. is not a
testable theory.
No, modern science books still teach it the right way. My sister is taking
high school science, and her book has it as Hypothesis,
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Nevertheless, I personally prefer to commend him for honestly noting the
importance of the Miles experiment. He did not attempt to impeach Miles or
his methods, and he honestly stated why he thought that Miles would not be
confirmed.
Oh come
You know that Mary was between probably 11 to 13 when she gave birth to
Jesus, right? Menses was considered adulthood, and children were
considered adults when they reached puberty, and treated that way, with all
the rights and responsibilities.
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Jojo Jaro
OK, since you asked, do not call me a troll by answering this.
Genesis chapter 6 is the source of this. This passage is the reason why God
destroyed the Earth with the flood.
6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth,
and daughters were born unto them,
2
How do you know that? Mary's Age?
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: leaking pen
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity
You know that Mary was between probably 11 to 13 when she gave birth to
Jesus, right?
At 10:37 PM 12/30/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
Clearly, everyone can see that I started my posting on Vortex-L with
clearly high hopes.
Yes. I confirm that.
Then you mentioned that I started insulting. Did you bother to
mention why I started insulting.
I described the event.
Did you mention
And the provocations and insults continue.
Since you are clearly incapable of conprehending simple English prose. I will
spell it out for you. I drank a total of about 5 bottles of beer and I drank
all of it before I was 20 years old. I haven't touched alcohol since then to
the present.
leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote:
I can get requiring a testable theory. I just fail to see how, This
process causes X amount of heat above what goes in to come out. is not a
testable theory.
Sure, if you call that a theory, then cold fusion has it in spades. I don't
mean to quibble
In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Sun, 30 Dec 2012 22:54:02 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
Their idea is to use hybrid propulsion...
LENR have huge autonomy, but LENr and worse, turbines, have low power
density
Since peak power is huge with planes, while average is lower, it is
rational to store
Yes, Christian catholic schools are more tolerant of other faiths, but not
muslims. You can not go to a muslim school like the one Obama went to
unless you are a muslim.
Before Lomax spins this again; may I simply ask readers to research this on
their own to see which of us both is lying.
At 09:22 PM 12/30/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
However, I disagree. I say that observation alone is not enough, and
you can't be sure cold fusion is a real nuclear effect until you
explain it with a theory.
Why
And it is in archived in Jed's library at lenr-canr.org
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Reifenschwreducedrad.pdf
(sorry if this has already been posted)
harry
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
FYI
Reifenschweiler REpublished his findings in Physics
At 09:58 PM 12/30/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
To take another example, Huizenga said that if someone detected
helium commensurate with heat he might change his views. Miles and
others did detect helium, and they told Huizenga that, in person, at
ICCF4 and elsewhere. He never acknowledged it. I
At 10:42 PM 12/30/2012, Eric Walker wrote:
Le Dec 30, 2012 à 5:39 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com a écrit :
You, Mike McKubre and I are just about the
only three people in the world I know who have
read Hoffman, and you are the only one who does not consider him a dolt.
I'm
I forgot movies. Yes, there are movies. And any movie of this genre always
facinate me. It gives me a chance to peer into the minds of the illuminati.
The themes they portray are the themes they would like to desensitize people
on.
Watch The Lightning Thief, where a kid, half son of Zeus
At 10:46 PM 12/30/2012, Alan Fletcher wrote:
From: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 7:17:09 PM
His own autobiography says that he went to muslim school in Indonesia.
You can't go to muslim school unless you're muslim.
http://www.thefogbow.com
THE source for
This is part of letter in response to an article that appeared in New
Scientist in 1994 about Reifenschweiler's findings.
Unfortunately a New Scientist subscription is required to read the
full letter. The writer doesn't regard the measurements as artifacts
or errors but claims the findings can be
Herein is the fallacy of your comments.
You claim that the insults are mild, and that I do not have the right to
respond to mild insults. This is the lie you keep on propagating.
Whether the insult in mild or grave is not for you to decide. The
person that the insult is directed at is the
At 11:40 PM 12/30/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
Yes, Christian catholic schools are more tolerant of other faiths,
but not muslims. You can not go to a muslim school like the one
Obama went to unless you are a muslim.
Before Lomax spins this again; may I simply ask readers to research
this on
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
It is unfortunate that these guys demand a verified theory before being
content to accept the lab results. I think this is a part of human nature
that many are unwilling to
You can not use your own speculation to support your argument. You speculate
that that was true and use that to support your assertion. Faulty logic.
Find me evidence that that is true.
It's common for Americans to imbibe Beer and Alcohol on a daily basis, but I
don't and many people don't.
At 11:01 PM 12/30/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Nevertheless, I personally prefer to commend him for honestly noting
the importance of the Miles experiment. He did not attempt to
impeach Miles or his methods, and he
At 12:45 AM 12/31/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
Herein is the fallacy of your comments.
You claim that the insults are mild, and that I do not have the
right to respond to mild insults.
Beautiful. My post is quoted below. I did not claim that Jojo did not
have the right to respond. I don't see
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
At 10:37 PM 12/30/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
Hence, in you, the corruption of islam is seen by everyone. The same
corruption that justifies to the world that it is OK to fondle a 9 year old
little girl BARELY OUT
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